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      05-24-2020, 03:30 PM   #23
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Ok... now you mention you have PI installed?!

You need to take a step back here and list ALL of the modifications that are on the car and need to be installed. Next post is going to be "oh yeah by the way im spraying nitrous" lol...

Please make a post of every single part on the car you have changed or will be changing and the specs, for example?

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TIC?
PI - injector size and controller
LPFP - size
EKP upgraded?
exhaust?
meth nozzle size?
meth %?
meth controller?
intake?
inlet?
turbo specs? brand?

etc etc.

So the custom kit is as follows. I have a top mount custom made kit.

1. Precision turbo JB 6262 0.82 v band undivided
2. Intercooler Wagner
3. GFB Boost controller ( not installed )
4. fuel it stage 2 lpfp ( not installed )
5. Bms intake
6. Charge pipe
7. BOV HKS
8. Wastegate 45mm 21psi spring
9. AEM wideband
10. Aem meth kit 250cc/min nozzle AEM controller ( 50/50 wmi )
11. NGK plugs 2 step colder ( installed but yet to be gapped )
12. Split second port injection controller ( not installed )
13. 3.5 bar Tmap sensor upgrade
14. Phonix intake manifold
15. 750cc injectors
16. Custom exhaust manifold (stock mufflers )
17. Vrsf downpipe
18. Fuel 93 octane currently
19. Few more i guess .

I am attaching a log which the tuner sent as a base map. I think the throttle was not fully opened in it. Check the second log from drop down. 4th gear one. Its different from the other ones. Have a look and guide in detail

https://datazap.me/u/zainchawla/cana...og=0&data=3-16

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Could probably eliminate those shift boost spikes with a JB4 controlling boost rather than an external boost controller.
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      05-24-2020, 03:43 PM   #25
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Could probably eliminate those shift boost spikes with a JB4 controlling boost rather than an external boost controller.
Yes i will consider jb4. Have a look at the logs on first post 😑
Give your suggestions
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You spent A LOT of money on parts. Why not give the car to a tuning shop that know what they are doing and ask them to complete the build? Yes, it will be expensive but the chance of success is far bigger than what you are doing now. You are trying a high risk and complicated DIY build without basic knowledge. I fear this might not end well... Also the ActiveHybrid make things way more complicated tuning wise.

I think what Wedge is trying to tell you by not replying, is that they are not interested in working with you anymore. The amount of support they will have to provide on this project is massive - not worth what you paid.
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You spent A LOT of money on parts. Why not give the car to a tuning shop that know what they are doing and ask them to complete the build? Yes, it will be expensive but the chance of success is far bigger than what you are doing now. You are trying a high risk and complicated DIY build without basic knowledge. I fear this might not end well... Also the ActiveHybrid make things way more complicated tuning wise.

I think what Wedge is trying to tell you by not replying, is that they are not interested in working with you anymore. The amount of support they will have to provide on this project is massive - not worth what you paid.

I hope it will end good . We are nearly there as soon as we are upgraded with fueling.
The car is nothing different in terms of tuning as a normal n55. The hybrid sector totally works differently.
Just take it as i am building a normal n55

Wedge charges everyone differently. For stock turbos its diff, for aftermarket its diff, for different stages its different.

Secondly we dont have tuning shops in our country. The only way is to do remote tuning.

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Yes i will consider jb4. Have a look at the logs on first post 😑
Give your suggestions
First thing to resolve is boost control and boost spikes at the shifts IMHO. Until boost is good it's impossible to dial in the rest of the tuning.
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      05-25-2020, 10:47 AM   #29
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First thing to resolve is boost control and boost spikes at the shifts IMHO. Until boost is good it's impossible to dial in the rest of the tuning.
I think the first thing to do is make the car run rich and focus on fueling. I am totally out of fuel.
I am looking at the jb4 features. It has some very nice options.
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Looks like you need to turn on port injection and tune that properly for the fueling end.
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Looks like you need to turn on port injection and tune that properly for the fueling end.
Yes will install the controller on weekend along with lpfp
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So the custom kit is as follows. I have a top mount custom made kit.

1. Precision turbo JB 6262 0.82 v band undivided
2. Intercooler Wagner
3. GFB Boost controller ( not installed )
4. fuel it stage 2 lpfp ( not installed )
5. Bms intake
6. Charge pipe
7. BOV HKS
8. Wastegate 45mm 21psi spring
9. AEM wideband
10. Aem meth kit 250cc/min nozzle AEM controller ( 50/50 wmi )
11. NGK plugs 2 step colder ( installed but yet to be gapped )
12. Split second port injection controller ( not installed )
13. 3.5 bar Tmap sensor upgrade
14. Phonix intake manifold
15. 750cc injectors
16. Custom exhaust manifold (stock mufflers )
17. Vrsf downpipe
18. Fuel 93 octane currently
19. Few more i guess .

I am attaching a log which the tuner sent as a base map. I think the throttle was not fully opened in it. Check the second log from drop down. 4th gear one. Its different from the other ones. Have a look and guide in detail

https://datazap.me/u/zainchawla/cana...og=0&data=3-16
What did you change for these logs compared to the previous ones? HPFP isnt crashing anymore and timing doesnt look bad, AFRs are also in check. Your MAF reading looks pretty low though... doesn't look like you are flowing that much air despite the big turbo and decently high boost, which is probably because the throttle is only open about 50%. Thats likely the only reason you arent running out of fuel. Same throttle closure in the 3rd log.
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You spent A LOT of money on parts. Why not give the car to a tuning shop that know what they are doing and ask them to complete the build? Yes, it will be expensive but the chance of success is far bigger than what you are doing now. You are trying a high risk and complicated DIY build without basic knowledge. I fear this might not end well... Also the ActiveHybrid make things way more complicated tuning wise.

I think what Wedge is trying to tell you by not replying, is that they are not interested in working with you anymore. The amount of support they will have to provide on this project is massive - not worth what you paid.
I completely agree with this - especially the lack of basic knowledge on a large scale build. Those earlier logs were terrifying lol.
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What did you change for these logs compared to the previous ones? HPFP isnt crashing anymore and timing doesnt look bad, AFRs are also in check. Your MAF reading looks pretty low though... doesn't look like you are flowing that much air despite the big turbo and decently high boost, which is probably because the throttle is only open about 50%. Thats likely the only reason you arent running out of fuel. Same throttle closure in the 3rd log.
I wrote that this was the log of the “base map”.
The logs i sent earlier were version 2 ( revised map ) with fully open throttle.

How do you read from a log that how much throttle is open?
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I wrote that this was the log of the “base map”.
The logs i sent earlier were version 2 ( revised map ) with fully open throttle.

How do you read from a log that how much throttle is open?
Your tuner completely failed in making this "base map". A base map should be safe sprinkled with even more safe because the tuner basically dont know how the car will run or react. They obviously messed up the fueling as STFT is pinned at 33 and your car is running dangerously lean at high boost. Lucky for you the N55 has such excellent anti-knock control.
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I completely agree with this - especially the lack of basic knowledge on a large scale build. Those earlier logs were terrifying lol.
A JB4 would make his life a lot easier on multiple fronts IMHO.
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this is such a disaster...

get a damn hpfp.. seriously
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I wrote that this was the log of the “base map”.
The logs i sent earlier were version 2 ( revised map ) with fully open throttle.

How do you read from a log that how much throttle is open?
Well, your tuner needs to go back to the base map. You absolutely cannot run that revised map without additional fueling. The car looks at least safely driveable on the base map based on that recent log you posted.

Throttle position is a parameter in the logs...

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Your tuner completely failed in making this "base map". A base map should be safe sprinkled with even more safe because the tuner basically dont know how the car will run or react. They obviously messed up the fueling as STFT is pinned at 33 and your car is running dangerously lean at high boost. Lucky for you the N55 has such excellent anti-knock control.
Well based on his response to my post above, the "base map" actually seemed to work, essentially beacuse throttle was half closed the entire time. Its when they gave the revised map with open throttle that the shit hit the fan lol.
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Your tuner completely failed in making this "base map". A base map should be safe sprinkled with even more safe because the tuner basically dont know how the car will run or react. They obviously messed up the fueling as STFT is pinned at 33 and your car is running dangerously lean at high boost. Lucky for you the N55 has such excellent anti-knock control.
You messed up a little in reading sir.
This is the base map log.
Have a look and guide

https://datazap.me/u/zainchawla/canal-first-log?log=0&data=3-16
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A JB4 would make his life a lot easier on multiple fronts IMHO.
Yes i am going to get it. A simple boost controler does not have as many options as the jb4

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Well, your tuner needs to go back to the base map. You absolutely cannot run that revised map without additional fueling. The car looks at least safely driveable on the base map based on that recent log you posted.

Throttle position is a parameter in the logs...



Well based on his response to my post above, the "base map" actually seemed to work, essentially beacuse throttle was half closed the entire time. Its when they gave the revised map with open throttle that the shit hit the fan lol.
Now i am going back to base map.
Waiting on installing the port injection and stage 2 lpfp. Than will work on revised map.
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this is such a disaster...

get a damn hpfp.. seriously
Geting a stage 2 lpfp and port injection.
Kindly guide.
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Geting a stage 2 lpfp and port injection.
Kindly guide.
There's nothing else really to be done until you finish installing the LPFP, PI, and supporting controllers. Once that is installed and you get a new base map with the additional fueling, come back and post a log.
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Yes i am going to get it. A simple boost controler does not have as many options as the jb4
Once the JB4 is installed you can email BMS a log and they will help you sort it out, and they will forward it to us if they need help on dialing in the fuel system.
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