Rumor: BMW and Toyota Joint Project to Spawn Hybrid Supercar

clbmw · 11-07-2013, 04:23 PM

Hahahhahahhahah so much negativity.

Having had so many saying they want an M8.

jhv · 11-07-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Billup

Yes and no. There are a lot of "regular person" cars made by BMW, then theres M series. What about something more sporty to go against a Porsche platform? The Z4M, yeah I guess, but I think a larger group of enthusiasts would be attracted to a more sports inspired car, than a supercar.

Not saying a new 997TT is affordable, but I think a BMW in that realm would be more sought after. Just my two cents, I know everyone has different views.

i can see what you mean. a 911 competitor; a legitimate thoroughbred sports car could be fantastic!

Jblack4083 · 11-07-2013, 05:18 PM

You people are confused. We've been screaming for a BMW supercar for years. Now there's rumors of one and everyone's like "blah blah blah we dont want hybrid build a small sports car"... Personally I don't want a BMW BRZ...

NeoChaser · 11-07-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NYe60chrisIU

+1 jaguar cx-75 as well

+ NSX

Powerslide · 11-07-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by e39>all

Inline 6 with 7 turbos, confirmed!

And don't forget Active Sound - lol!!!

mxa121 · 11-07-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jblack4083

You people are confused. We've been screaming for a BMW supercar for years. Now there's rumors of one and everyone's like "blah blah blah we dont want hybrid build a small sports car"... Personally I don't want a BMW BRZ...

agree, but I would LOVE an n54 powered brz!

mxa121 · 11-07-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jblack4083

You people are confused. We've been screaming for a BMW supercar for years. Now there's rumors of one and everyone's like "blah blah blah we dont want hybrid build a small sports car"... Personally I don't want a BMW BRZ...

agree, but I would LOVE an n54 powered brz!

Meeni · 11-07-2013, 06:14 PM

Why is it not the i8 ?

nicknaz · 11-07-2013, 06:28 PM

Maybe we have it all wrong and it will be the LFA V10 engine stuffed into the i8 chassis, with some additional weight reduction from all the CFRP tech Toyota inveted as part of creating the LFA

jadnashuanh · 11-07-2013, 07:49 PM

What sometimes gets lost in the noise is that BMW, like any corporation, is in the business to make money. This takes dancing a fine line, and they seem to have been doing that well, if you look at their profits and sales figures. It is not in the market to always cater to the fringes, unless that benefits the whole. Sometimes a halo car gets people to consider a brand that they had not previously, even if they have no chance to be able to buy it...the association with it is enough for some.

So, I'll just sit back and see what happens - I buy my cars based on if they meet my needs, not by the factory they come out of.

Kaxon · 11-07-2013, 07:56 PM

I'll look forward to watching Chris Harris drive this thing, although I'd be more excited if they were working on something in the price range I could afford to drive myself...

surewin · 11-07-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JAM3S

Finally!

BMW already makes enough cars for the "normal people". It would be nice to have something along the lines of an R8 from BMW. Although hybrid?? ugh, a hybrid supercar is an oxymoron.

I thought so, too, but it seems to be the direction all supercar manufacturers are taking these days. Heck, the 918 spyder timed sub 7 min on the Nurburgring.

bimmerjph · 11-07-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by W///

Then get a 2er? What else are you wanting? There's already pretty much every car for every need in the BMW lineup!

Uhh... a sub Z4 sports car. Which the 2er is not going to be, and was never meant to be.

sor · 11-07-2013, 09:29 PM

BMW made the car, Toyota added the spoiler.

chronos6 · 11-08-2013, 01:47 AM

Toyota joining with any good car brand in order to produce a "sports-like" vehicle is an ultimate fail. What do they know about a sports car? Secondly what of their electronics is useful besides the hybrid aspect of a Prius?

I just hate the fact that hybrid is now an option on alot of cars and future car and concepts. We wouldn't have a gas crisis or any problems with the environment if we just took the license away from the dumb idiots who should be nowhere near operating a vehicle. /rant.

chronos6 · 11-08-2013, 01:57 AM

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Harold Wood · 11-08-2013, 04:55 AM

I was wondering if any of the i8 will be used as the structure of this joint venture?

http://haroldwood.deviantart.com/gallery/

Efthreeoh · 11-08-2013, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ffs630

The Germans and the Japanese working together? Hmmmmmm........

THAT was funny.

Efthreeoh · 11-08-2013, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmerjph

Personally I don't give a damn how fast the P1 does the standing 1/4 mile in. I would rather have less power and more weight savings. For me its not the idea of a hybrid that kills it for me, its the added weight.

This is exactly the point. It is well understood that with current battery technology the total weight of the battery-electric/electric motor hybrid drivetrain makes far less power per pound than a conventional ICE powered drivetrain.

D-Rock · 11-08-2013, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Venom692x

Agreed. Dissapointed

+1

marcva · 11-08-2013, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JAM3S

Finally!

BMW already makes enough cars for the "normal people". It would be nice to have something along the lines of an R8 from BMW. Although hybrid?? ugh, a hybrid supercar is an oxymoron.

Um...porsche 918 spyder?!

QED

Jay-K · 11-08-2013, 09:51 AM

yes, we need a supercar.

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jadnashuanh Major 50 Rep 1,061 Posts Drives: 535iGT x-drive; i3 BEV Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	What sometimes gets lost in the noise is that BMW, like any corporation, is in the business to make money. This takes dancing a fine line, and they seem to have been doing that well, if you look at their profits and sales figures. It is not in the market to always cater to the fringes, unless that benefits the whole. Sometimes a halo car gets people to consider a brand that they had not previously, even if they have no chance to be able to buy it...the association with it is enough for some. So, I'll just sit back and see what happens - I buy my cars based on if they meet my needs, not by the factory they come out of.
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