New 4GC unveiled

Racing Teatray · 06-09-2021, 08:04 AM

What do we think?

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...p-range-topper

Grille aside (which I still hate), the rest of it looks really good in a sleek if a touch conservative sort of way - elegant. I particularly like the new door handle treatment - way better than on the 4 coupe/cabrio and the 3, which always looks awkward to me.

SuperHamz · 06-09-2021, 08:59 AM

Door handles still look odd, the grilles on the darker cars in the flesh don't look so bad, but the back end of the M4C does look quite beastly on the road.

apex_crisis_ · 06-09-2021, 09:15 AM

I do like the more pronounced ducktail boot (maybe its the slightly different angle), but I think overall the F36 looks sleeker. The clearly visible body line helps as well.

winther1 · 06-09-2021, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by apex_crisis_

I do like the more pronounced ducktail boot (maybe its the slightly different angle), but I think overall the F36 looks sleeker. The clearly visible body line helps as well.

Yuk - side profile looks more like the abominable GT than the F36 - why make it taller if aesthetics is important at all?!? Anyway, might help F36 owners retain a better value on their cars, so thank you bmw design team

Wibbles · 06-09-2021, 09:33 AM

Looks well proportioned.

The grill looks better in the flesh but is still an aquired taste.

JD6 · 06-09-2021, 09:54 AM

Interesting...

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For the first time, BMW is developing an M4 Gran Coupé, which is due to arrive next year to sit alongside the M4 Coupé.

Racing Teatray · 06-09-2021, 10:00 AM

Except for the fact that the one thing with a front end uglier than a cooking 4-series is an M4 - it looks genuinely terrible.

I'd have bought an M4 version of my current car in a heartbeat. But not sure now - but like BMW not making an M3 Touring until the M3 was, for the first time, a butt-ugly car.

Here's hoping Alpina get their mitts on a 4GC for the first time. That would be interesting.

Racing Teatray · 06-09-2021, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by B58_f32

Grill has grown on me, once you see in person. Hate to say it because i never liked it before. I still wouldn't set out to buy one, would rather have a F series car.
If the time came in the future to buy a new gran coupe and i couldn't find any newer f32,f36 then i would not mind this.

After I was rude about the styling of the new 4, Vines asked me I'd be interested in replacing my current pre-LCI 440i GC with a last-off-the-line 440i GC. But no, I cannot see the appeal of a like-for-like replacement, even allowing for the LCI tweaks over the last five years - life's too short to spend that long effectively driving the same car.

A change is nice now and again.

lethbridge · 06-09-2021, 10:36 AM

Reminds me of a Mondeo

I may be being a bit harsh on the Mondeo if you take the front profile into account

Abzynthe · 06-09-2021, 10:37 AM

I don't mind it. I think if I was going to "upgrade" to one, I'd probably get the i4 though.

Dave_3 · 06-09-2021, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by apex_crisis_

I do like the more pronounced ducktail boot (maybe its the slightly different angle), but I think overall the F36 looks sleeker. The clearly visible body line helps as well.

Yes, the height to length ratio has altered. It is much higher (relatively) than before. The press photos mask that.

Interesting to actually see it in the flesh.

The previous 4GC was very elegant.

D.

Pentland · 06-09-2021, 11:00 AM

I really wanted to like this car. I even liked the grille when the first renderings came out and I still like the grille in the flesh. But overall, it’s not different enough outside or (digital display aside) in for me.
Add to that the inflated cost and the lack of commuting these days and I’ll hang on to my F36 thank you.

PS these promo shots don’t help either with the 1990s Rover paint colours, no privacy glass etc.

TouringPleb · 06-09-2021, 11:28 AM

I like it, especially that colour.

However, compared to the old model it's got a fatter arse and does look like a 3GT in profile.

For me, the old model was sufficiently different from the 3 saloon to warrant the increased premium. Not so sure about this new one.

Racing Teatray · 06-09-2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pentland

1990s Rover paint colours

Perhaps they should just be done with it and call it a Vitesse.

Racing Teatray · 06-09-2021, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TouringPleb

I like it, especially that colour.

However, compared to the old model it's got a fatter arse and does look like a 3GT in profile.

For me, the old model was sufficiently different from the 3 saloon to warrant the increased premium. Not so sure about this new one.

You sure? I drive an F36 and I think this new version looks much more different all round to the current G30 3-series than the F36 ever looked different to an F30.

winther1 · 06-09-2021, 11:39 AM

But surely "different" looks should also mean "improved" to warrant a purchase?

Racing Teatray · 06-09-2021, 11:52 AM

Nobody told BMW that unfortunately. I struggle with most of the current range TBH.

g9icy · 06-09-2021, 12:10 PM

I'm not a fan of its looks, not that I'm biased from owning an F36...The 4 series grilles still do nothing for me.

However... I would absolutely go for an M4 GC! I was thinking the M3 touring might be worth saving for, but an M4 GC is the one.

I don't like the looks on the new 3/4, but I prefer the M grilles over the 4 series, especially in darker colours. The fact is though, the new M cars are getting such good reviews...

This is all academic anyway, I won't be able to afford one for a very long time.

machman767 · 06-09-2021, 12:58 PM

Seeing as BMW owned Rover a while back, maybe they've uncovered a long forgotten stash of the lovely Nightfire Red colour. If they could offer the same colour combo as my P6, Huntsman vinyl roof over Almond I'd be first in the queue!

SkyJawa · 06-09-2021, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by B58_f32

Grill has grown on me, once you see in person.

Nope seen a few in person and still think it’s utterly gopping.

Yawn07 · 06-10-2021, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by winther1

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Originally Posted by apex_crisis_

I do like the more pronounced ducktail boot (maybe its the slightly different angle), but I think overall the F36 looks sleeker. The clearly visible body line helps as well.

Yuk - side profile looks more like the abominable GT than the F36 - why make it taller if aesthetics is important at all?!? Anyway, might help F36 owners retain a better value on their cars, so thank you bmw design team

Totally agree with this. The grills are the least of it's problems. Shame

AlRex · 06-11-2021, 06:15 AM

I really like the look of it! Agree with the boot being a bit taller though and doesn’t look as sleek, but overall I really like it.

Was having a play with it on the configurator yesterday morning but doesn’t seem to be there today. Sunset orange for me I thought looked very nice! Only snag is the 60k price tag (M440i) with a few options (I know pre discount) seems quite pricey.

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Racing Teatray Lieutenant 218 Rep 492 Posts Drives: BMW 440i GC Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central London iTrader: (0)	New 4GC unveiled What do we think? https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...p-range-topper Grille aside (which I still hate), the rest of it looks really good in a sleek if a touch conservative sort of way - elegant. I particularly like the new door handle treatment - way better than on the 4 coupe/cabrio and the 3, which always looks awkward to me. Attached Images __________________ ____________________ Current: Macan GTS Previous: 440i GC, M135i, E60 M5, Z1, 330d, 135i, Alfa 156 GTA, Mercedes 500E, Audi S3, Audi A3 quattro, VW Golf GTI 16v
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SuperHamz Major 742 Rep 1,475 Posts Drives: F31 328i M Sport Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Middlesex iTrader: (0)	Door handles still look odd, the grilles on the darker cars in the flesh don't look so bad, but the back end of the M4C does look quite beastly on the road. __________________
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apex_crisis_ Private 50 Rep 97 Posts Drives: 440i GC Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: London iTrader: (0)	I do like the more pronounced ducktail boot (maybe its the slightly different angle), but I think overall the F36 looks sleeker. The clearly visible body line helps as well. Attached Images
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Wibbles Coding ECU's remotely 445 Rep 1,172 Posts Drives: M3LR Join Date: May 2012 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Looks well proportioned. The grill looks better in the flesh but is still an aquired taste.
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Racing Teatray Lieutenant 218 Rep 492 Posts Drives: BMW 440i GC Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central London iTrader: (0)	Except for the fact that the one thing with a front end uglier than a cooking 4-series is an M4 - it looks genuinely terrible. I'd have bought an M4 version of my current car in a heartbeat. But not sure now - but like BMW not making an M3 Touring until the M3 was, for the first time, a butt-ugly car. Here's hoping Alpina get their mitts on a 4GC for the first time. That would be interesting. __________________ ____________________ Current: Macan GTS Previous: 440i GC, M135i, E60 M5, Z1, 330d, 135i, Alfa 156 GTA, Mercedes 500E, Audi S3, Audi A3 quattro, VW Golf GTI 16v
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lethbridge Captain 470 Rep 783 Posts Drives: 2018 F80 M3 CP YMB Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M3 CP [10.00]	Reminds me of a Mondeo I may be being a bit harsh on the Mondeo if you take the front profile into account __________________ Current: 2018 F80 M3CP YMB. Previous: 2015: F34 335d GT M Sport+; 2012: F07 535d GT M Sport; 2008: 335d SE; 2005: 530d; 2003: 330d; 2002: 330i; 1999: 523i
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Abzynthe Colonel 1373 Rep 2,118 Posts Drives: BMW 440i Gran Coupe LCI Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I don't mind it. I think if I was going to "upgrade" to one, I'd probably get the i4 though. __________________ Previous: 2010 F01 740d M Sport \| 2015 F36 420d M Sport Current: 2018 F36 440i M Sport (Stage 1 BM3, xHP stage 3)
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Pentland Colonel 1712 Rep 2,057 Posts Drives: BMW M240i (G42) Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I really wanted to like this car. I even liked the grille when the first renderings came out and I still like the grille in the flesh. But overall, it’s not different enough outside or (digital display aside) in for me. Add to that the inflated cost and the lack of commuting these days and I’ll hang on to my F36 thank you. PS these promo shots don’t help either with the 1990s Rover paint colours, no privacy glass etc.
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TouringPleb Brigadier General 4369 Rep 4,227 Posts Drives: SRB 440i GC Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Cambs iTrader: (0)	I like it, especially that colour. However, compared to the old model it's got a fatter arse and does look like a 3GT in profile. For me, the old model was sufficiently different from the 3 saloon to warrant the increased premium. Not so sure about this new one.
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winther1 Colonel 1819 Rep 2,047 Posts Drives: 440i Gran Coupe with MPPSK Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: London iTrader: (0)	But surely "different" looks should also mean "improved" to warrant a purchase? __________________ 440i GC with MPPSK, AP intake, 20" 624 M wheels, Wagner downpipe, Xhp stg 3, BM3 stg 2 instagram: f36_garage
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g9icy Captain 341 Rep 734 Posts Drives: 440i Gran Coupe MSport Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Cheshire iTrader: (0)	I'm not a fan of its looks, not that I'm biased from owning an F36...The 4 series grilles still do nothing for me. However... I would absolutely go for an M4 GC! I was thinking the M3 touring might be worth saving for, but an M4 GC is the one. I don't like the looks on the new 3/4, but I prefer the M grilles over the 4 series, especially in darker colours. The fact is though, the new M cars are getting such good reviews... This is all academic anyway, I won't be able to afford one for a very long time. __________________ Previous: '17 Carbon Black 435d GC, '14 Black 330d
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machman767 Lieutenant 234 Rep 584 Posts Drives: 320i M Sport+ Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Preston iTrader: (0)	Seeing as BMW owned Rover a while back, maybe they've uncovered a long forgotten stash of the lovely Nightfire Red colour. If they could offer the same colour combo as my P6, Huntsman vinyl roof over Almond I'd be first in the queue!
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AlRex Private First Class 97 Rep 154 Posts Drives: 440i GC Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: York iTrader: (0)	I really like the look of it! Agree with the boot being a bit taller though and doesn’t look as sleek, but overall I really like it. Was having a play with it on the configurator yesterday morning but doesn’t seem to be there today. Sunset orange for me I thought looked very nice! Only snag is the 60k price tag (M440i) with a few options (I know pre discount) seems quite pricey.
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