bootmod3 for BMW F series Vehicles - General Discussion

TSA8151 · 05-07-2019, 12:23 AM

I'm still learning how to read data logs, looks good to me. Did I miss anything?

https://datazap.me/u/tsa8151/log-155...ta=3-4-6-32-33

bootmod3 pwg stage 2

codestar · 05-07-2019, 02:21 PM

I'm looking to get a bm3 license in the next couple days, but I don't have a dp yet. I'll be buying the dp at the same time as getting the flash done, however they don't have time to do a dp install right now. Question is:

Which map should I run until I get the dp installed? I have intake, fmic, chargepipe, and exhaust done. Should I just flash to stage 2 right away since I'll be getting the DP installed within a week or two?

Thanks!

outofphase · 05-07-2019, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TSA8151

I'm still learning how to read data logs, looks good to me. Did I miss anything?

https://datazap.me/u/tsa8151/log-155...ta=3-4-6-32-33

bootmod3 pwg stage 2

Looks good to me! A little boost creep in 3rd gear but the DME is closing throttle to compensate.

13blk335ix · 05-07-2019, 02:47 PM

bm3 failed aquring ots map. trying to download stage 2. i paid for the maps. i also havent been able to download the free map.

MTWO · 05-07-2019, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 13blk335ix

bm3 failed aquring ots map. trying to download stage 2. i paid for the maps. i also havent been able to download the free map.

You probably forgot to enter your vin when buying it. Email them and they’ll sort you out real quick.

Milkee_0923 · 05-08-2019, 01:57 PM

For those on stage 2 tune with NGK 97506 spark plugs. Would it be safe to switch back to stock tune/Stage 1 without having any misfire/rough running problems?

ChristosD · 05-08-2019, 03:38 PM

Ptf are trying a tcu flash for the torque limitation in 3rd and 6th of the 8hp box. Has anyone got this flash yet and tried it? Is it just a removal of the limitations or are they improving shift speed as well?

e46m3to335i · 05-08-2019, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristosD

Ptf are trying a tcu flash for the torque limitation in 3rd and 6th of the 8hp box. Has anyone got this flash yet and tried it? Is it just a removal of the limitations or are they improving shift speed as well?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristosD

Ptf are trying a tcu flash for the torque limitation in 3rd and 6th of the 8hp box. Has anyone got this flash yet and tried it? Is it just a removal of the limitations or are they improving shift speed as well?

Would like to know this as well. It's the only thing holding me from getting the xHP tcu flash.

Eschmacher · 05-08-2019, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by e46m3to335i

Would like to know this as well. It's the only thing holding me from getting the xHP tcu flash.

Any "fix" PTF come up with to get around the 3rd and 6th gear limits will potentially damage your transmission clutches because the line pressure will not be raised for the extra power.

Edit: I can't read. Above it was mentioned that it will be a TCU flash, that would be very interesting...

codestar · 05-09-2019, 10:20 PM

Pulled the trigger on bm3 today. Went over to CTS Turbo and they set it up for me. However.....

They set my OTS map to stage 2 91octane, even though I use exclusively chevron 94. Is this a problem? Does anyone have experience with the OTS maps and Vancouver gas? I tried doing a third gear data log, I'm not sure how everyone saves them and cleans them up nicely but I'll insert it anyway.

Third gear, roughly 20kph to 130kph, relatively flat terrain, 20C, stage 2 91 map with chevron 94

I think I'm just going to buy the st2 93 map, however I don't know if it will be knocking badly like the guys at CTS said.

Any info would be great!

EDIT:

Derp moment, link here: http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5cd4e659ae729b5de7fca62e

akgambino · 05-09-2019, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codestar

Pulled the trigger on bm3 today. Went over to CTS Turbo and they set it up for me. However.....

They set my OTS map to stage 2 91octane, even though I use exclusively chevron 94. Is this a problem? Does anyone have experience with the OTS maps and Vancouver gas? I tried doing a third gear data log, I'm not sure how everyone saves them and cleans them up nicely but I'll insert it anyway.

Third gear, roughly 20kph to 130kph, relatively flat terrain, 20C, stage 2 91 map with chevron 94

I think I'm just going to buy the st2 93 map, however I don't know if it will be knocking badly like the guys at CTS said.

Any info would be great!

Click on the log then hit share link then select the link and copy then paste it here. Nobody can evaluate that log looking at a picture of it.

They are likely correct that the ots 93 octane map will be too aggressive for shitty western Canadian 94 octane that in reality is barely 91 octane. Make sure your car is running strong on the 91 map before even trying the 93 map.

codestar · 05-09-2019, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by akgambino

Quote:

Originally Posted by codestar

Pulled the trigger on bm3 today. Went over to CTS Turbo and they set it up for me. However.....

They set my OTS map to stage 2 91octane, even though I use exclusively chevron 94. Is this a problem? Does anyone have experience with the OTS maps and Vancouver gas? I tried doing a third gear data log, I'm not sure how everyone saves them and cleans them up nicely but I'll insert it anyway.

Third gear, roughly 20kph to 130kph, relatively flat terrain, 20C, stage 2 91 map with chevron 94

I think I'm just going to buy the st2 93 map, however I don't know if it will be knocking badly like the guys at CTS said.

Any info would be great!

Click on the log then hit share link then select the link and copy then paste it here. Nobody can evaluate that log looking at a picture of it.

They are likely correct that the ots 93 octane map will be too aggressive for shitty western Canadian 94 octane that in reality is barely 91 octane. Make sure your car is running strong on the 91 map before even trying the 93 map.

Fixed, my bad. Perusing the graph I don't see anything that strikes me as a problem, however I'm quite new to this so that's why I came to the forum to seek input. thanks

akgambino · 05-09-2019, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by codestar

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Originally Posted by akgambino

Quote:

Originally Posted by codestar

Pulled the trigger on bm3 today. Went over to CTS Turbo and they set it up for me. However.....

They set my OTS map to stage 2 91octane, even though I use exclusively chevron 94. Is this a problem? Does anyone have experience with the OTS maps and Vancouver gas? I tried doing a third gear data log, I'm not sure how everyone saves them and cleans them up nicely but I'll insert it anyway.

Third gear, roughly 20kph to 130kph, relatively flat terrain, 20C, stage 2 91 map with chevron 94

I think I'm just going to buy the st2 93 map, however I don't know if it will be knocking badly like the guys at CTS said.

Any info would be great!

Click on the log then hit share link then select the link and copy then paste it here. Nobody can evaluate that log looking at a picture of it.

They are likely correct that the ots 93 octane map will be too aggressive for shitty western Canadian 94 octane that in reality is barely 91 octane. Make sure your car is running strong on the 91 map before even trying the 93 map.

Fixed, my bad. Perusing the graph I don't see anything that strikes me as a problem, however I'm quite new to this so that's why I came to the forum to seek input. thanks

Timing is absolutely terrible. Definitely don't try to run a higher octane tune your gas is total crap. Try a different gas station wow the car was pulling negative timing that entire pull.

Your wgdc is also oddly high throughout the pull which may be indicative of a boost leak.

JuiceQuadre · 05-10-2019, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Eschmacher

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Originally Posted by e46m3to335i

Would like to know this as well. It's the only thing holding me from getting the xHP tcu flash.

Any "fix" PTF come up with to get around the 3rd and 6th gear limits will potentially damage your transmission clutches because the line pressure will not be raised for the extra power.

huh?? Thats exactly what they are trying to avoid by developing tcu flash fix? they want to flash tcu itself just like xhp.

i mean i hope thats what they are going for

Eschmacher · 05-10-2019, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JuiceQuadre

huh?? Thats exactly what they are trying to avoid by developing tcu flash fix? they want to flash tcu itself just like xhp.

i mean i hope thats what they are going for

I'm dumb and glossed over the fact that it was a TCU flash, my mistake. I'm very interested to see a TCU flash from PTF.

accs · 05-10-2019, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codestar

Pulled the trigger on bm3 today. Went over to CTS Turbo and they set it up for me. However.....

They set my OTS map to stage 2 91octane, even though I use exclusively chevron 94. Is this a problem? Does anyone have experience with the OTS maps and Vancouver gas? I tried doing a third gear data log, I'm not sure how everyone saves them and cleans them up nicely but I'll insert it anyway.

Third gear, roughly 20kph to 130kph, relatively flat terrain, 20C, stage 2 91 map with chevron 94

I think I'm just going to buy the st2 93 map, however I don't know if it will be knocking badly like the guys at CTS said.

Any info would be great!

EDIT:

Derp moment, link here: http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5cd4e659ae729b5de7fca62e

Chevron 94 is not good enough for 93+ maps.

ROBBMAC · 05-12-2019, 02:46 PM

I got tired of renaming my phone to connect via hot spot to my WiFI agent to connect to bootmod3. There are instructions on how to edit the network information in the device firmware using a Windows PC on the bootmod3 site.

This works if you have access to PC, but it can also be done from your Mac OS computer using the built in SSH client software that came with it. Here's how...

bootmod3 OBD agent device comes preconfigured with the bootmod3 WIFI network name. To change it to a different network name, follow these steps from a Mac OS machine:

Connect your OBD WiFi Agent device to your Mac’s USB port for power and then connect and ethernet cable between the Mac and the OBD WiFi agent device Once the device starts in about 30 seconds it will be ready to access via the Terminal at IP 169.254.0.2 
Open Terminal app 
Press the key combination command + spacebar on your keyboard to search for “terminal.app” 
Once the Terminal app launches type
Code:
```
ssh bm3@169.254.0.2
```
and press the return key 
When prompted enter the password as
Code:
```
bootmod3 
```
On the first attempt to connect you may be asked in so many words to verify if you want to continue. Type yes and press the return key 
Enter the following command to open the Nano text editor within the Terminal app and edit the default WiFi network settings in the wpa_supplicant.conf file: 
Code:
```
sudo nano /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf 
```
Edit the ssid and psk fields between the quotation marks. 
SSID = Your Phones Hotspot Name
PSK = Your Phones Hotspot Password
Save your edits by pressing the key combination control + o on your keyboard. 
You will be asked to confirm the file name. DO NOT CHANGE THE NAME. Just press the return key on your keyboard.
 A message will display saying [ Wrote 9 lines ] This means the file was saved successfully. 
Exit the Nano editor by pressing the key combination control + x on your keyboard. 
Quit your connection to the OBD WiFi Agent device by typing logout in the Terminal app. 
You can close the Terminal app now as well.

ChristosD · 05-15-2019, 05:42 AM

Probably a dumb question, do i need a flex fuel sensor to run e30 with the ots map (n55)? How does this sensor integrate with the ots file does it pull timing if eth levels are too low? as i am thinking of getting a stage 2 lpfp and wondering if i need this sensor and how it will work with bm3?
thanks

JaredG_F30 · 05-15-2019, 07:56 AM

No you don't need the sensor but I would recommend the Ethanol content tester (https://www.fuel-it.com/ethanol-content-tester/) then use an e85 calculator (http://www.georgebelton.com/E85Calculator.php) to figure out how much gasoline and ethanol to mix. With true E85 I mix 4 gals of E85 with 12 gals of 93 octane which gets me 96 octane and a 28.9% ethanol mix.

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Originally Posted by ChristosD

Probably a dumb question, do i need a flex fuel sensor to run e30 with the ots map (n55)? How does this sensor integrate with the ots file does it pull timing if eth levels are too low? as i am thinking of getting a stage 2 lpfp and wondering if i need this sensor and how it will work with bm3?
thanks

doodlebro · 05-15-2019, 01:57 PM

Is anyone else experiencing problems with dropouts and disconnections? I have a pixel 3 and it refuses to just stay running smoothly. Kind of annoying since the whole point of the obd agent was to prevent having to use a laptop for logging and stuff.

TSA8151 · 05-15-2019, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doodlebro

Is anyone else experiencing problems with dropouts and disconnections? I have a pixel 3 and it refuses to just stay running smoothly. Kind of annoying since the whole point of the obd agent was to prevent having to use a laptop for logging and stuff.

The dashboard will often freeze when I go WOT. Ill finish my pull and the dashboard will be stuck at 6500 rpm, etc. Until I re identify the agent.

XxThe_RemedyXx · 05-15-2019, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TSA8151

Quote:

Originally Posted by doodlebro

Is anyone else experiencing problems with dropouts and disconnections? I have a pixel 3 and it refuses to just stay running smoothly. Kind of annoying since the whole point of the obd agent was to prevent having to use a laptop for logging and stuff.

The dashboard will often freeze when I go WOT. Ill finish my pull and the dashboard will be stuck at 6500 rpm, etc. Until I re identify the agent.

Same here.

05-07-2019, 12:23 AM	#2245
TSA8151 Private First Class 58 Rep 141 Posts Drives: 2013 F30 335i msport Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	I'm still learning how to read data logs, looks good to me. Did I miss anything? https://datazap.me/u/tsa8151/log-155...ta=3-4-6-32-33 bootmod3 pwg stage 2
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05-07-2019, 02:21 PM	#2246
codestar Second Lieutenant 181 Rep 252 Posts Drives: 2017 Model S P100D Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 435i xdrive [0.00]	I'm looking to get a bm3 license in the next couple days, but I don't have a dp yet. I'll be buying the dp at the same time as getting the flash done, however they don't have time to do a dp install right now. Question is: Which map should I run until I get the dp installed? I have intake, fmic, chargepipe, and exhaust done. Should I just flash to stage 2 right away since I'll be getting the DP installed within a week or two? Thanks!
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05-07-2019, 02:47 PM	#2248
13blk335ix First Lieutenant 75 Rep 323 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW F30 N55 335ix 6mt Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: New York iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW 335ix [0.00]	bm3 failed aquring ots map. trying to download stage 2. i paid for the maps. i also havent been able to download the free map.
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05-08-2019, 01:57 PM	#2250
Milkee_0923 Private 30 Rep 92 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW M235i Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Las Vegas, NV iTrader: (0)	For those on stage 2 tune with NGK 97506 spark plugs. Would it be safe to switch back to stock tune/Stage 1 without having any misfire/rough running problems?
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05-08-2019, 03:38 PM	#2251
ChristosD First Lieutenant 97 Rep 373 Posts Drives: m135i Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Durban iTrader: (0)	Ptf are trying a tcu flash for the torque limitation in 3rd and 6th of the 8hp box. Has anyone got this flash yet and tried it? Is it just a removal of the limitations or are they improving shift speed as well? __________________ '14 F20 M135i EWG FBO:// INJEN INTAKE // PURE INLET// TURBOSMART BOV DUAL PORT // //CSF INTERCOOLER // ER CP // SNOW S2.5 METH KIT // B58TU HPFP // NGK 97506 // ER DP // TMSS MID PIPE //MPE // MPBBK // UR STRUT BRACE // BM3 CUSTOM JORDAN E85 TUNE // XHP STAGE 3 //
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05-09-2019, 10:20 PM	#2254
codestar Second Lieutenant 181 Rep 252 Posts Drives: 2017 Model S P100D Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 435i xdrive [0.00]	Pulled the trigger on bm3 today. Went over to CTS Turbo and they set it up for me. However..... They set my OTS map to stage 2 91octane, even though I use exclusively chevron 94. Is this a problem? Does anyone have experience with the OTS maps and Vancouver gas? I tried doing a third gear data log, I'm not sure how everyone saves them and cleans them up nicely but I'll insert it anyway. Third gear, roughly 20kph to 130kph, relatively flat terrain, 20C, stage 2 91 map with chevron 94 I think I'm just going to buy the st2 93 map, however I don't know if it will be knocking badly like the guys at CTS said. Any info would be great! EDIT: Derp moment, link here: http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5cd4e659ae729b5de7fca62e Last edited by codestar; 05-09-2019 at 10:28 PM..
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05-12-2019, 02:46 PM	#2261
ROBBMAC Private First Class 166 Rep 101 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW 335 F30 Stage 2 Turbo Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Michigan iTrader: (0)	bootmod3 OBD WiFi Agent Network Name Change from Mac OS Command Line I got tired of renaming my phone to connect via hot spot to my WiFI agent to connect to bootmod3. There are instructions on how to edit the network information in the device firmware using a Windows PC on the bootmod3 site. This works if you have access to PC, but it can also be done from your Mac OS computer using the built in SSH client software that came with it. Here's how... bootmod3 OBD agent device comes preconfigured with the bootmod3 WIFI network name. To change it to a different network name, follow these steps from a Mac OS machine: Connect your OBD WiFi Agent device to your Mac’s USB port for power and then connect and ethernet cable between the Mac and the OBD WiFi agent device Once the device starts in about 30 seconds it will be ready to access via the Terminal at IP 169.254.0.2  Open Terminal app  Press the key combination command + spacebar on your keyboard to search for “terminal.app”  Once the Terminal app launches type Code: ssh bm3@169.254.0.2 and press the return key  When prompted enter the password as Code: bootmod3  On the first attempt to connect you may be asked in so many words to verify if you want to continue. Type yes and press the return key  Enter the following command to open the Nano text editor within the Terminal app and edit the default WiFi network settings in the wpa_supplicant.conf file:  Code: sudo nano /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf  Edit the ssid and psk fields between the quotation marks.  SSID = Your Phones Hotspot Name PSK = Your Phones Hotspot Password Save your edits by pressing the key combination control + o on your keyboard.  You will be asked to confirm the file name. DO NOT CHANGE THE NAME. Just press the return key on your keyboard.  A message will display saying [ Wrote 9 lines ] This means the file was saved successfully.  Exit the Nano editor by pressing the key combination control + x on your keyboard.  Quit your connection to the OBD WiFi Agent device by typing logout in the Terminal app.  You can close the Terminal app now as well. __________________ 📺 Subscribe to my F30 YouTube Channel https://www.YouTube.com/M3Beats 📷 Follow my F30 335i on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/m3beats Last edited by ROBBMAC; 05-12-2019 at 02:52 PM..
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05-15-2019, 05:42 AM	#2262
ChristosD First Lieutenant 97 Rep 373 Posts Drives: m135i Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Durban iTrader: (0)	Probably a dumb question, do i need a flex fuel sensor to run e30 with the ots map (n55)? How does this sensor integrate with the ots file does it pull timing if eth levels are too low? as i am thinking of getting a stage 2 lpfp and wondering if i need this sensor and how it will work with bm3? thanks __________________ '14 F20 M135i EWG FBO:// INJEN INTAKE // PURE INLET// TURBOSMART BOV DUAL PORT // //CSF INTERCOOLER // ER CP // SNOW S2.5 METH KIT // B58TU HPFP // NGK 97506 // ER DP // TMSS MID PIPE //MPE // MPBBK // UR STRUT BRACE // BM3 CUSTOM JORDAN E85 TUNE // XHP STAGE 3 //
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05-15-2019, 01:57 PM	#2264
doodlebro Lieutenant 121 Rep 470 Posts Drives: '17 X3 35i Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Denver iTrader: (1)	Is anyone else experiencing problems with dropouts and disconnections? I have a pixel 3 and it refuses to just stay running smoothly. Kind of annoying since the whole point of the obd agent was to prevent having to use a laptop for logging and stuff.
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