[52172]

How are my settings? This is with the powerflex adjustable camber bushings up front.

[jbiswurm]

confused. looks like everything is in the stock ranges. I would have expected to see more camber up front. the F30 begggggs for more camber up front. I would get to 1.5 at least if you can. everything else seems fine.

[52172]

Originally Posted by jbiswurm

confused. looks like everything is in the stock ranges. I would have expected to see more camber up front. the F30 begggggs for more camber up front. I would get to 1.5 at least if you can. everything else seems fine.

The bushings only neted .5 deg camber

[jbiswurm]

Originally Posted by jbiswurm

confused. looks like everything is in the stock ranges. I would have expected to see more camber up front. the F30 begggggs for more camber up front. I would get to 1.5 at least if you can. everything else seems fine.

ah. well every little bit helps. I'll recommend the F80 arms. they really helped me.

[reyoasian]

Hijacking thread.

Should I get an alignment before track season starts?

Stock suspension so no lowering, but not sure how off it is off from all the potholes over the winter.

[colobrio]

Originally Posted by reyoasian

Hijacking thread.

Should I get an alignment before track season starts?

Stock suspension so no lowering, but not sure how off it is from all the potholes over the winter.

I can't speak to potholes. I got an alignment last season while still stock, to get some camber in back and some of the toe out in front. I think it helped a little. The rear tires certainly wore a bit more evenly.

[reyoasian]

Originally Posted by colobrio

I can't speak to potholes. I got an alignment last season while still stock, to get some camber in back and some of the toe out in front. I think it helped a little. The rear tires certainly wore a bit more evenly.

Thanks, definitely looking at a more aggressive toe in the front.
Too bad camber is not adjustable up there though, would prefer more camber up front as well.
My tire wear isn't bad but it's definitely not even.

[52172]

Loving my adjustable camber bushings just the added half a degree neg camber makes a difference.

[SoCalCarGuy]

Originally Posted by 52172

The bushings only neted .5 deg camber

The alignment shop didn't change your front camber. It's still the same. They didn't dial in an extra half degree negative. Show your shop this thread.

[itsrichierich]

No one really responded to the specs. Besides needing camber at -1.5 (or more), how is everything else for OP?

[52172]

Running fortune auto coilovers with camber plates now and neg 1.5 camber up front and had to dial in neg 2.3 camber in the rear to fit my 275/30/19 on 19x9.5 et35 wheels. We're actually going to take out a little more camber in the rear to like neg 2.0 or 1.8 cause i originally was on 275/35/19 tires when alignment was set.

[52172]

Originally Posted by SoCalCarGuy

The alignment shop didn't change your front camber. It's still the same. They didn't dial in an extra half degree negative. Show your shop this thread.

that's because initial was taken with camber bushings already installed.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by 52172

Running fortune auto coilovers with camber plates now and neg 1.5 camber up front and had to dial in neg 2.3 camber in the rear to fit my 275/30/19 on 19x9.5 et35 wheels. We're actually going to take out a little more camber in the rear to like neg 2.0 or 1.8 cause i originally was on 275/35/19 tires when alignment was set.

Both the F30 and F80 tend to beg for negative front camber. I run -2.7 in front and -2.3 in the rear. What are your goals with this setup? Seems like your setup is leaning towards understeer.

[52172]

Originally Posted by jmg

Both the F30 and F80 tend to beg for negative front camber. I run -2.7 in front and -2.3 in the rear. What are your goals with this setup? Seems like your setup is leaning towards understeer.

yes would rather encounter some under steer rather than oversteer. I could always create oversteer with more throttle!

[jmg]

Originally Posted by 52172

yes would rather encounter some under steer rather than oversteer. I could always create oversteer with more throttle!

Oversteer changes what direction your car is facing(rotation) but it won't always necessarily change the direction your car is traveling(vector). So you can create the rotation with throttle and weight transfer, but the camber will actually help you get the grip needed to make the turn and hit the apex.

[52172]

Originally Posted by jmg

Oversteer changes what direction your car is facing(rotation) but it won't always necessarily change the direction your car is traveling(vector). So you can create the rotation with throttle and weight transfer, but the camber will actually help you get the grip needed to make the turn and hit the apex.

so your saying a little oversteer is better? That would mean less traction in the rear rt?

[jmg]

Originally Posted by 52172

so your saying a little oversteer is better? That would mean less traction in the rear rt?

Relative to the front yes. That can do with tire compound or weight distribution due to the dynamic state of the car.


In general a little oversteer is better than understeer, but predictability is actually what you are looking for. Gradual traction loss that translates to the driver so you know when you are at grip limits. That is accomplished through the tires and suspension. Playing with camber, castor, rebound and spring rates so that upsetting the car is minimized during weight transfer and by road/track conditions.

[romemedrano]

Here is mine.

I'll be maxing out my camber plates later today. Trying to get to around -3.1 front

This is official BMW KDS so it reads in degrees then minutes. 60 minutes = 1 degree.