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      10-13-2013, 09:44 AM   #67
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Curently I can do some better price for 419. For me it is really nice wheel but I'd like to know all your opinion about those.
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      10-13-2013, 11:21 AM   #68
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Do you have a side on pic of the 419s, hard to tell from that pic.
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      10-13-2013, 12:00 PM   #69
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What made you go for non-run flats?
I just had it in my head that non-runflats would flex more and be better in snow, but I'm probably wrong.

So seeing as our purveyor of winter wheel / tyres is with us now I confirm I am up for a group buy of 18" style415 with Pirelli Sottozzeros.

Anyone else? If not I'll just order direct.

PS - My car when delivered will have 19" style 403m - If I just unbolt these and put the winters on is there any issue with tyre pressure sensors?
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      10-13-2013, 01:34 PM   #70
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I would raise it with your dealer now.

Winters shouldn't go on until end of Oct (unless there is a real cold spell). So you won't know for a month or so, but even if they do just fit - I wouldn't try them. I think there is a real reason for BMW saying 18s only.
Raised and resolved. Dealer recognised mistake and offered me some 18's.

Ordered 405 in black and 397 and will see which I prefer - result!
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      10-13-2013, 01:50 PM   #71
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Raised and resolved. Dealer recognised mistake and offered me some 18's.

Ordered 405 in black and 397 and will see which I prefer - result!
Nice result!

It is surprising how many dealers get it wrong in the first place...
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      10-13-2013, 03:02 PM   #72
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Here you have white activehybrid
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      10-14-2013, 05:35 AM   #73
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Here you have white activehybrid
They look very easy to clean which is worth considering.
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      10-14-2013, 07:30 AM   #74
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They look very easy to clean which is worth considering.
That was my thinking too ....... on a cold winter day you want something that is nice and simple to clean up.
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      10-14-2013, 08:30 AM   #75
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Mike, can you give a price on the 419s with Michelin Alpin PA4 ?

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      10-14-2013, 08:57 AM   #76
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It appears that some of the posters on here are not fitting BMW approved tyres. (its a sad day I sound like my mother) but seriously though has anyone checked with their insurers if this invalidates the insurance its just the sort of wriggle out opportunity they are looking for! . For example the latest from my dealer is that they could fit Sotto Zero II tyres in 225/45/18 run flats on an 8J square set up no problem as that size of tyre is approved and marked with the BMW star on the tyre but they wont touch the same Sotto Zeros II for the 19" 403's front or back or the rears 255/40/18 of the 400M wheels because they are not approved by BMW. I am just wondering what the insurance companies would make of this if push came to shove. I have not checked with my insurer yet I wondered if anyone had?
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It appears that some of the posters on here are not fitting BMW approved tyres. (its a sad day I sound like my mother) but seriously though has anyone checked with their insurers if this invalidates the insurance its just the sort of wriggle out opportunity they are looking for! . For example the latest from my dealer is that they could fit Sotto Zero II tyres in 225/45/18 run flats on an 8J square set up no problem as that size of tyre is approved and marked with the BMW star on the tyre but they wont touch the same Sotto Zeros II for the 19" 403's front or back or the rears 255/40/18 of the 400M wheels because they are not approved by BMW. I am just wondering what the insurance companies would make of this if push came to shove. I have not checked with my insurer yet I wondered if anyone had?
Not on a BMW but I fitted Verdestien Wintracs to the missus Freelander 2 last year (brilliant tyres btw) and rang the insurance company (Admiral) before I fitted them for this reason. I was told that there was no issue at all and that I was free to do as I please and that in fact it was a good and sensible choice.

Agree it may be different with the whole "BMW fitment" thing but to be honest I can't see that there would be a problem at all.
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It appears that some of the posters on here are not fitting BMW approved tyres. (its a sad day I sound like my mother) but seriously though has anyone checked with their insurers if this invalidates the insurance its just the sort of wriggle out opportunity they are looking for! . For example the latest from my dealer is that they could fit Sotto Zero II tyres in 225/45/18 run flats on an 8J square set up no problem as that size of tyre is approved and marked with the BMW star on the tyre but they wont touch the same Sotto Zeros II for the 19" 403's front or back or the rears 255/40/18 of the 400M wheels because they are not approved by BMW. I am just wondering what the insurance companies would make of this if push came to shove. I have not checked with my insurer yet I wondered if anyone had?
My advice would be if the insurance company says the wheels and tyres are ok don't trust them get it in black and white.
I speak from having a very bad experience relating to insurance and tyres, insurance companies will often look for a way to not pay out on a claim!
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      10-14-2013, 09:30 AM   #79
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LV have said they do not consider any winter tyres a modification - irrespective of what size/whether manufacturer approved etc.
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Admiral have stated no issues with tyre choice, but different alloys - even if BMW OEMs - while not invalidating the insurance would not be covered for replacement if lost/damaged.
In other words, in Admiral's case you'd be best off getting the same style alloys as you ordered/received with the car if possible.
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      10-14-2013, 10:25 AM   #81
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(*) being the BMW approved bit

BMW approved for 8J wheels - Pirelli W210 Winter SottoZero Serie 2 Pirelli W 210 - 225/45 RF18 91H (*) RFT TL

Not BMW approved 8.5J wheels - Pirelli W240 Winter SottoZero Serie 2 Pirelli W 240 - 255/40 RF18 94V XL RFT TL

This is why my dealer refused to do me a set of tyres for my 403M wheels or a staggered set of 400M wheels as winters but he did say they would do a set of 4 fronts 8J's of the 400's

I would have to +1 on what Defero said if its not in black and white its not real.
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I've ordered a set of the 415's at £2,050, but I'm pretty concerned what they will look like on an M Sport. Does anyone have any pics? I could go for the M Sport 18"'s but they want nearly £2800 for these and they are also staggered I think so not going to be the best in the snow.. Hmm!
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I could go for the M Sport 18"'s but they want nearly £2800 for these and they are also staggered I think so not going to be the best in the snow.. Hmm!
Buy a set of 400m on eBay (should set you back £1000 or so for some with just delivery miles) and then buy the winter tyres yourself (£650-700). A lot cheaper than going through a dealer...
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      10-14-2013, 11:38 AM   #84
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Not on a BMW but I fitted Verdestien Wintracs to the missus Freelander 2 last year (brilliant tyres btw) and rang the insurance company (Admiral) before I fitted them for this reason. I was told that there was no issue at all and that I was free to do as I please and that in fact it was a good and sensible choice.

Agree it may be different with the whole "BMW fitment" thing but to be honest I can't see that there would be a problem at all.
I've been using those tyres for the last 2 years on the Merc and they have been excellent. Wish they'd fit on 335.
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      10-14-2013, 11:53 AM   #85
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Hi Boosted321,
Full brand new set of 419 with Michelin Alpin PA4 I can sell for £1550, 415 with same tyres can sell for £1450.
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Buy a set of 400m on eBay (should set you back £1000 or so for some with just delivery miles) and then buy the winter tyres yourself (£650-700). A lot cheaper than going through a dealer...
Yes, wish I could do this but the car is a company order so I can only buy via the dealer. Car is not arriving until early next month, being built this week.
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Yes, wish I could do this but the car is a company order so I can only buy via the dealer. Car is not arriving until early next month, being built this week.
Dealer must be quoting you RRP prices. Have you asked to see if they have any 400m alloys/tyres from anyone who upgraded to the 20" performance wheels?
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How is the f30 in snow/icey conditions.
This will be my first winter with a rear wheel drive car ?
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