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      02-01-2014, 08:22 PM   #89
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Since BMW has a new found love for hatches, maybe they can build this:

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      02-01-2014, 08:31 PM   #90
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This will be big in Europe.

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That's really too bad. I think a baby 6GC would have demolished this segment. And an M version of a 4-door 4GC? Forget about it.
The interesting thing is that it allows the G30 5er to have an even more flowing roofline similar to this early render which shows if the car used the extended wheelbase.
But sport orientated dynamics defended the decision of the standard wheelbase.
There are customers especially in Europe who like the 4er Coupe but it is entirely in adequate for their needs like family trips , business clients etc. Now they can have a 4er and all its attributes as well as the space and flexibility they need.

If you pine for this? Then the next 5er will be the gain to the 4er Gran Coupes loss.
No way. The F10 is already boat-like in its proportions. Bigger is NOT better, Scott. I'm not getting into a car bigger than the F10!

The 4GC Photoshop that you posted is what BMW should have built (including an M version).
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It should look like a smaller version of the 6-Series Gran Coupe instead of a slightly modified version of the 3-Series GT that it is. There is not much sportiness in it, looks very family oriented with the hatch back and all. Doesn't look like a 4 door coupe imo. The C-pillar 3rd window is so un-BMW. Doesn't look bad but it's not what I expected. Missed opportunity imo.
I agree. The 6GC was a home run in styling...that formula just didn't translate well into the 4 series body. And the hatchback design keeps reminding me of the 3GT.
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This is an incredibly good looking car from BMW with three fatal flaws imho -
1. No 435GC AWD (although the press release language leads me to believe that one will be added sometime after initial introduction)
2. No sunroof (not even a tilt-up one like the 6GC)
3. No manual transmission.
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      02-01-2014, 08:50 PM   #93
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Whats frameless doors??

Anyone know how much longer this is to the E90??
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      02-01-2014, 08:51 PM   #94
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I take everything I said back, this is a nice car. Sex on wheels
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      02-01-2014, 08:56 PM   #95
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So help me understand the marketshare aspect/relation of this car and F30 MR. BMW!!!???
as much as I love this car and it is super sexy...but as an owner of a F30, I have absolutely no desire whatsoever to own this car as it is SO SIMILAR to what I already own...a bit of added gadgets here and there, a bit wider/lower,...OK noted. But it still doesn't change the overall landscape...
The other side of the coin is a first time buyer who doesn't own any of the two: Which one would they buy? selecting either one only kills BMW's own marketshare...rather than trying to steal the competition's...
I've owned the f30 and 6gc and I would consider it. I suspect it will take away some Audi customers
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Whats frameless doors??

Anyone know how much longer this is to the E90??
4GC is about 4.5 in longer than the E90.
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      02-01-2014, 09:25 PM   #101
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I wonder if US-spec M-sport version will include fog lamps?
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      02-01-2014, 09:31 PM   #102
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looks a little bit more like the GT than a GC
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M4 Gran Coupe!!!! Come to pa pa!
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      02-01-2014, 09:35 PM   #104
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Wow looks great! I'd be afraid to put a deposit down on the new M3, I think BMW will make an M4 GC.
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I want to hate this car, but it looks really good!
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I don't see the need for this car AND a regular 3 series now. BMW's lineup is just getting too congested in the down market space. The 6 gran coupe has a place... competing with the likes of a panamera and such... 4 seats but sloped roof, less cargo, etc. But 4 GC just seems like another 3. GC competitors down market? The CLA? I guess? But I'm thinking it'll simply spread sales more thinly over more models... can't see a 4 GC opening up new markets.

That said - the car looks nice.
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So it says they will come standard with the 8-speed auto, but I don't see anywhere that it explicitly states there will be no manual, and one of the pictures shows a manual, what is the word on this? It looks nice, but this would be a deal breaker.
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Jason, can you please confirm availability of manual transmission options for the US market on the 4GC, for both the 428i and 435i RWD and xDrive?


I am assuming the transmission offerings for the US market will be similar to the 4 series coupe, correct? Thanks.


PS: I'm holding my breath until you provide us with an update. GULP.
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NO WAY does that remote controlled trunk down function make it to the US.
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