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      02-11-2013, 11:36 PM   #23
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How often do you think anyone puts a 1,000lb payload in the back of their F-150? Probably never.

Boats aren't very heavy. Or jet skis. Snow mobiles aren't very heavy. Appliances. I could go on...

The cars are designed to be capable of towing. The engineers have already built in a safety factor when determining the ratings. The cars are perfectly capable.

As an aside, I have a 3/4 diesel Suburban that I use to haul stuff, people and to tow my cars. It's "rated" for 5,000lbs. It's "capable" of towing 15,000lbs. so long as I'm not trying to maintain 85MPH over a mountain pass.

It's just a different mindset than we're used to here in the US. Towing with cars hasn't really been prevalent since the 50's.
Agreed, but a boat and trailer are still well over 1000lbs. Not necessarily much more than 3 or 4000 for a small boat. But not 1000 either.

Who said anything about the back of an F150? Thought we were talking about towing. I've never tried to tow an appliance, must be some kind of party trick.

All kidding aside, the only point I was trying to make is your suburban is better suited for towing not only because it has the power to handle so much weight, but because it's not so much smaller than the camper or boat or refrigerator compared to a small sedan, less drag and less stress on the motor.

Again, never said a sedan couldn't or even shouldn't tow. Just pointing out there are other factors to consider.
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Strange then that lots of people in Europe have no issue with hooking up a caravan to a family car and driving 2000km (each way) for the summer holiday to the south of Europe. These trailer pick-ups are standard factory options from the manufacturer, or you can have them added later at the dealer.

Ohh and the typical family car in Europe is at most a 2.0 liter, although Diesel models are more popular with caravan people for its torque.

p.s. I don't have, and never had a caravan
What's strange about it? I never said it couldn't tow anything. Those caravans (which I'm assuming is what we would call a camper or camping trailer here) are very light. I would still think that is extra stress on the motor given how much drag they cause, but I never said the engine would blow half-way there either.
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LOL, that would torn off with a U Haul trailer in a hot second...
A very sought after option on used cars in Sweden and yes, it will hold for anything the car is allowed to tow. Extremely useful for Thule bike holders etc.
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When I lived in Michigan I used to tow my 16' Hobie Cat on a steel trailer with 8" wheels with my '84 Prelude, 110 HP, no problem. The weight of a 16' Hobie Cat is less than 400 pounds and the trailer probably weighs around 300-400 pounds, so maybe 800 pounds total. After I moved to San Diego I bought an 18' Hobie Cat and towed it on an aluminum trailer with 12" wheels with my '88 Prelude, 135 HP, again, no problem.
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Agreed, but a boat and trailer are still well over 1000lbs. Not necessarily much more than 3 or 4000 for a small boat. But not 1000 either.

Who said anything about the back of an F150? Thought we were talking about towing. I've never tried to tow an appliance, must be some kind of party trick.

All kidding aside, the only point I was trying to make is your suburban is better suited for towing not only because it has the power to handle so much weight, but because it's not so much smaller than the camper or boat or refrigerator compared to a small sedan, less drag and less stress on the motor.

Again, never said a sedan couldn't or even shouldn't tow. Just pointing out there are other factors to consider.

I was thinking about a simple aluminum fishing boat. Not a deep sea troller. And my mention of appliances, F-150s, etc. was in reference to using a small utility trailer for hauling bulky items. Such as refrigerators. Not particularly heavy, but too large to stuff in your trunk...
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