E85/PI tuning with CaryTheLabelGuy (LOG UPDATE)

obriennathaniel · 04-15-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

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Originally Posted by obriennathaniel

I deleted all of my back logs, I forgot I had posted them in here so the above logs are no longer around. But here's one from yesterday.

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5ad1317bd10b433f99df698a

He sent me another map this morning so I'm going to log that one here soon. I made some PI adjustments so hopefully that will fix the HPFP pressure drop in the beginning of the pull.

The boost up top is purposefully being held back because most of my logs flat line in the upper RPM range and we haven't been able to monitor them. I think I've figured out how to log without that happening so we're going to start upping the boost if I can get the logs right.

Might want to update your signature file of equipment on your car.

Good idea lol. I was mia for so long I forgot all about that.

obriennathaniel · 04-15-2018, 06:15 PM

First pic is from March 1st, second pic is from today.

The log from todays pull. Still fine tuning that needs to be done but we're getting there.

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5ad3da19d10b433f99df6e53

harkes · 04-16-2018, 07:43 AM

Can you please let it run out of meth. I'd like to see how the safety works. Or maybe CaryTheLabelGuy can explain?

15psi up top...? What is holding you back from crankin up the boost?

obriennathaniel · 04-16-2018, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by harkes

Can you please let it run out of meth. I'd like to see how the safety works. Or maybe CaryTheLabelGuy can explain?

15psi up top...? What is holding you back from crankin up the boost?

I have no meth and I don't miss the hassle, it's all e85 (tests about e95) and port injection.

And because at first most of my logs were flatlining in the upper rpm range so we couldn't see what the boost was doing. There's plenty of room on the wastegate to get the boost up so we're gonna work on that now that my logs seem to not flatline as much.

obriennathaniel · 04-30-2018, 05:40 AM

Log from this morning!

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5ae6e92fd10b43261da67c91

My best dragy time 60-130 starting in 4th gear is 9.39 from a couple of revisions ago, but this log is a 9.54, and MUCH cleaner.

BMWcurious · 04-30-2018, 07:02 AM

Can you show knock retard per cylinder? You've got about 6 degrees difference in actual timing between cylinders from a quick look, but knock 0/1 probably will not show it if you are logging 20 times a second but your engine could knock 350 times a second.

Some of the load, boost, filling values are different from what I'm used to seeing with some clipped values and perhaps different scaling.

As well as seeing the knock retard per cylinder for a clear reason for inter-cylinder differences, I'd want to see unclipped requested and actual values for load, torque, boost, lambda that can be clearly overlaid in the same units.

I've not personally tuned this platform, so might be missing the point.

cookiesowns · 05-04-2018, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWcurious

Can you show knock retard per cylinder? You've got about 6 degrees difference in actual timing between cylinders from a quick look, but knock 0/1 probably will not show it if you are logging 20 times a second but your engine could knock 350 times a second.

Some of the load, boost, filling values are different from what I'm used to seeing with some clipped values and perhaps different scaling.

As well as seeing the knock retard per cylinder for a clear reason for inter-cylinder differences, I'd want to see unclipped requested and actual values for load, torque, boost, lambda that can be clearly overlaid in the same units.

I've not personally tuned this platform, so might be missing the point.

Good eye! Unfortunately this is one of the flaws of BM3 not being able to see individual corrections per cylinder.. something I need to bug Dzenen about. You can however log Knock sensor voltages on BM3 which helps a bit.

I've noticed F series MEV172X/G is a tiny bit different in certain values than E series MEV172, but the principles are the same. It could also be like you said clipped values on BM3.

Welcome to have you here

BMWcurious · 05-04-2018, 07:48 AM

I wanted to find an unclipped load value for a new table on F series this morning. The unclipped load is there in RAM with range up to 327.67 rather than 191.25. Same as earlier 172. It is useless logging knock voltages unless you do it every cylinder event, otherwise you miss most of the action and get false reassurance.

obriennathaniel · 07-18-2018, 02:03 PM

Well guys, I've come to the end of the road with this car. She's running smoother and more powerful than she ever has so now I feel comfortable selling her. CaryTheLabelGuy worked literal magic on her and I'm more than impressed. I'll take the cash I earn from selling it and saving up over the next few months for either an f90 m5 or and m4, all depends on how the next few months go. If anybody is wondering, price tag is $25k.

JaredG_F30 · 07-18-2018, 03:54 PM

DAMN DUDE!! Good luck with the sale. Are you selling as is with all the mods? How many miles on the ODO?

obriennathaniel · 07-26-2018, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JaredG_F30

DAMN DUDE!! Good luck with the sale. Are you selling as is with all the mods? How many miles on the ODO?

Selling as is, with all the mods. And has ~43k miles.

HKD126 · 07-26-2018, 10:11 AM

Went for a ride in my buddy’s F90... You won’t be disappointed.

F30Beast335i · 08-08-2018, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by obriennathaniel

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Originally Posted by JaredG_F30

DAMN DUDE!! Good luck with the sale. Are you selling as is with all the mods? How many miles on the ODO?

Selling as is, with all the mods. And has ~43k miles.

Pm me info please ?

JaredG_F30 · 11-09-2018, 07:57 AM

Good to know. I plan to go bigger turbo and PI in the future so this is a great thread for reference. Please keep us updated.

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Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

I have been the owner of this car since August.

Been working on even bigger and better things.

If you want the proven Port Injection System and Control System documented in this thread (and others) for your N55, message me.

The PSU System with the AIC2V controller is heads and tails in quality above the JB4 based Fuel-It System that some are using now.

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