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      06-27-2014, 11:37 AM   #23
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Wrong.
There are 2 versions of blue calipers.

34116799465 - left
34116799466 - right
SAME SIZE AS STANDARD 335i F30 - will work with 17" rim and up to 340mm rotor - used also in f20 series
Like you said, same as 335i original, so why change (and pay 500 - 600$ per calipers) if only for the paint.

So if you like this setup, and still want to use your 17" winters, do like I'll do:
Paint the front the color you like, and only get the back ones.

Upgrades for the 328i and 335i are (either M Sport blue or M Performance red-yellow-orange):

370mm disks with matching calipers front
345mm disks with matching calipers rear.
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      06-27-2014, 01:30 PM   #24
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Like you said, same as 335i original, so why change (and pay 500 - 600$ per calipers) if only for the paint.

So if you like this setup, and still want to use your 17" winters, do like I'll do:
Paint the front the color you like, and only get the back ones.

Upgrades for the 328i and 335i are (either M Sport blue or M Performance red-yellow-orange):

370mm disks with matching calipers front
345mm disks with matching calipers rear.
...because the rear calipers in the M-Performance kit are different than an M-Sport 335i and the rotors are bigger on all four corners. I did the MPB upgrade on my 335i and there is a noticeable difference, and the software/anti-lock brake integration is upgraded.
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Hi,

just found this post and have one additional question.
The difference between calipers is clear, BUT which brake pads should I use for calipers 34116799465/6 with 340mm rotor and which ones for calipers 34116799469/70 with 370mm rotor?

Thanks to anyone who can advise on this!!

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      06-29-2015, 10:36 AM   #26
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I read a couple of reviews that found little to no difference in performance to stock brakes.

Why not spend the money on Brembos?
First of all, the standard 4-piston fixed front calipers on the F30 335i are made by Brembo for BMW.

Second, the M Performance Brake Kit is entirely made by Brembo for BMW. The kit consists of Brembo 4-piston fixed front calipers and Brembo 2-piston fixed rear calipers.

When I had my F30 M Sport 335i, I upgraded to the M Performance Brakes.

When you get a Sport or M Sport F30 335i, the car comes with fixed 4-piston Brembo calipers up front (non-painted) and single-piston sliding rear calipers at the back (Base and Luxury 335i cars might have them too but I only mentioned what I was certain of). The standard rotors have no drilling or slotting present.

When you upgrade to the M Performance Brakes, you get the same 4-piston fixed Brembo calipers up front (now painted in either red, yellow/gold, or orange), and the rear calipers are upgraded to 2-piston fixed Brembo calipers.

Furthermore, with the MPB, you get rotors with dimpling (partial drilling but not full cross-drilling) and slotting. These features both help with keeping the brakes cool by venting hot gasses away from the surface of the rotors.

During daily driving, the two different brake setups may feel similar. This is likely due to the fact that both setups have the same front calipers. In addition, while the M Performance rotors are dimpled and slotted, they are no bigger than the "standard" rotors.

As others have said, when tracking the car, the dimpling and slotting on the M Performance rotors, in conjunction with the larger rear calipers, will both help to mitigate brake fade.

Finally, the biggest difference I noticed between the standard brakes and M Performance Brakes was the pedal feel. With the latter, the pedal felt much less like an "on/off" switch. Instead, you could modulate the brake pedal and be more precise with how much speed you trimmed. In short, the pedal feel was more linear and progressive.

To those not used to BBKs, this may feel unusual because you may have to get deeper into the pedal to get more bite but trust me, as you do get deeper into the pedal, the bite is definitely there.
How about 420i?
Are they the same brake as 335i?
Can directly replace stock calipers with blue one?
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      06-30-2015, 12:41 AM   #27
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How about 420i?
Are they the same brake as 335i?
Can directly replace stock calipers with blue one?
In the US,

428 gets 11.8" rear rotors and 12.3" front

428 GC gets 11.8 rear rotors and 13" front

335 brakes are 13" rear and 13.4" front, this uses the m-sport front caliper and a traditional 1-piston sliding rear caliper.

Upgrading to "M sport" brakes on the 428s gets m-sport front AND rear 2-piston calipers, which are fixed calipers and the bigger rotors from the 335. This is a no brainer upgrade if you like brakes (I do). For $600, you get a slightly better braking system than the stock on 335s.

Upgrading to the "M sport" brakes on the 335 for $600 paints the front caliper blue and gives you the blue rear 2-piston fixed calipers. This is not a great deal and doesn't do much for the braking, since most of your braking is done with the front anyways.

Upgrading to the "M performance" brakes on the 335 gets you 14.6" front rotors and 13.6" rear rotors, plus cross-drilled/grooved. Same basic calipers as above on the "M sport", but I don't know what the mounting looks like, since obviously it fits the bigger rotor. Most likely the caliper-half is a different part number from whomever really makes the brakes (brembo does lots of OEM stuff, even the relatively low-end). This could be worth it, but mainly you are getting the bigger rotors. IMO it's $$$ (several thousand) better invested in a real "big brake kit", with 4 or 6 piston stoppers up front and 4 piston in the rear.
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How about 420i?
Are they the same brake as 335i?
Can directly replace stock calipers with blue one?
In the US,

428 gets 11.8" rear rotors and 12.3" front

428 GC gets 11.8 rear rotors and 13" front

335 brakes are 13" rear and 13.4" front, this uses the m-sport front caliper and a traditional 1-piston sliding rear caliper.

Upgrading to "M sport" brakes on the 428s gets m-sport front AND rear 2-piston calipers, which are fixed calipers and the bigger rotors from the 335. This is a no brainer upgrade if you like brakes (I do). For $600, you get a slightly better braking system than the stock on 335s.

Upgrading to the "M sport" brakes on the 335 for $600 paints the front caliper blue and gives you the blue rear 2-piston fixed calipers. This is not a great deal and doesn't do much for the braking, since most of your braking is done with the front anyways.

Upgrading to the "M performance" brakes on the 335 gets you 14.6" front rotors and 13.6" rear rotors, plus cross-drilled/grooved. Same basic calipers as above on the "M sport", but I don't know what the mounting looks like, since obviously it fits the bigger rotor. Most likely the caliper-half is a different part number from whomever really makes the brakes (brembo does lots of OEM stuff, even the relatively low-end). This could be worth it, but mainly you are getting the bigger rotors. IMO it's $$$ (several thousand) better invested in a real "big brake kit", with 4 or 6 piston stoppers up front and 4 piston in the rear.
Thank you
I might go for m sport brake and 335 rotor but I just want the look of caliper. Not sure I need the rotor though.
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      06-30-2015, 08:36 PM   #29
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Hi,

just found this post and have one additional question.
The difference between calipers is clear, BUT which brake pads should I use for calipers 34116799465/6 with 340mm rotor and which ones for calipers 34116799469/70 with 370mm rotor?

Thanks to anyone who can advise on this!!

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M-Sport line, M-Sport brakes and M-Performance Brakes use same front caliper therefore they use the same size pad.

M-Sport brakes and M-Performance Brakes use same rear calipers.
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ok, but on guy here has M-Performance with 370mm rotors, I have M-Sport with 340mm rotors, it means these are two different calipers
his: 34116799469/34116799470
mine: 34116799465/34116799466
so how can we have the same brake pads ???
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ok, but on guy here has M-Performance with 370mm rotors, I have M-Sport with 340mm rotors, it means these are two different calipers
his: 34116799469/34116799470
mine: 34116799465/34116799466
so how can we have the same brake pads ???
That's because the Calipers are exactly identical. The part numbers on the calipers are identical, the end numbers are different because of color code. Your rotors are different size, but the calipers aren't, and the brake pads are cross-compatible also.
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That's because the Calipers are exactly identical. The part numbers on the calipers are identical, the end numbers are different because of color code. Your rotors are different size, but the calipers aren't, and the brake pads are cross-compatible also.
so in order for me to get the M performance brakes.....I can just buy the Msport rear calipers and then all 4 drilled/slotted rotors and then paint my front calipers and im good to go?
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so in order for me to get the M performance brakes.....I can just buy the Msport rear calipers and then all 4 drilled/slotted rotors and then paint my front calipers and im good to go?
Guys i have a question. So if i get the blue m sport brake calipers. Tht can fir the 335 rotors? 340 in the front and 330 in the rear? The rear wont be too small?
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Guys i have a question. So if i get the blue m sport brake calipers. Tht can fir the 335 rotors? 340 in the front and 330 in the rear?
No! This will not fit.


http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=858607

S2NHA M Sport Brakes (blue colored):

S2NHA Variant 1:
Front rotor: 340x30mm (Millimeter) / Brake Caliper with 4 piston
Rear rotor: 345x24mm / Brake Caliper with 2 piston

S2NHA Variant 2: (all 335i/d Version, Europe Version of 325d, 328i, 330d)
Front rotor: 370x30mm (Millimeter) / Brake Caliper with 4 piston
Rear rotor: 345x24mm / Brake Caliper with 2 piston

Be aware that rear rotors 345mm are available in tow different version. You need to verify the fit the hand-brake/emergency brake installed.

You possibly also need to change the dust cover plates to fit larger discs.
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No! This will not fit.


http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=858607

S2NHA M Sport Brakes (blue colored):

S2NHA Variant 1:
Front rotor: 340x30mm (Millimeter) / Brake Caliper with 4 piston
Rear rotor: 345x24mm / Brake Caliper with 2 piston

S2NHA Variant 2: (all 335i/d Version, Europe Version of 325d, 328i, 330d)
Front rotor: 370x30mm (Millimeter) / Brake Caliper with 4 piston
Rear rotor: 345x24mm / Brake Caliper with 2 piston

Be aware that rear rotors 345mm are available in tow different version. You need to verify the fit the hand-brake/emergency brake installed.

You possibly also need to change the dust cover plates to fit larger discs.
Okay thanks. So let me clarify. I definitely need the 345x24mm rear rotors but for the front i can choose either the 370 or 340 rotors? I have a 428ix.

Part #34206797607 and 34116792223 are good? I can buy these instead of the slotted/dimpled ones?

Thanks
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If i have a sportline 328i with oem brakes can i only change the calipers to the blue ones or i need to change the rotors too?
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That's because the Calipers are exactly identical. The part numbers on the calipers are identical, the end numbers are different because of color code. Your rotors are different size, but the calipers aren't, and the brake pads are cross-compatible also.
The calipers for 370mm and 340mm rotors are different due to 15mm difference in mounting holes position to carry 30mm bigger diameter rotor.
The pads are interchangable as the rotor working surface has equal width (say pad path)- the diameter is bigger so is the brake force arm, the contact area is the same.
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If i have a sportline 328i with oem brakes can i only change the calipers to the blue ones or i need to change the rotors too?
Both of them.
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Hi,

just found this post and have one additional question.
The difference between calipers is clear, BUT which brake pads should I use for calipers 34116799465/6 with 340mm rotor and which ones for calipers 34116799469/70 with 370mm rotor?

Thanks to anyone who can advise on this!!

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Do get the F80 M3/M4 pads- also interchangeable and unbeatable in terms of initial bite/fade resistance/brake pedal feedback/rotor wear/price balance.
These are miles ahead the M-Performance (same are in 335i stock fronts) pads, which have low initial bite and dull pedal feedback.
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Do get the F80 M3/M4 pads- also interchangeable and unbeatable in terms of initial bite/fade resistance/brake pedal feedback/rotor wear/price balance.
These are miles ahead the M-Performance (same are in 335i stock fronts) pads, which have low initial bite and dull pedal feedback.
Huh - F80 pads fit F30s? That's cool.
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Do get the F80 M3/M4 pads- also interchangeable and unbeatable in terms of initial bite/fade resistance/brake pedal feedback/rotor wear/price balance.
These are miles ahead the M-Performance (same are in 335i stock fronts) pads, which have low initial bite and dull pedal feedback.
How are they for brake dust?
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