[Alpine435i]

Originally Posted by Bluelondon

Btw guys the m235i has 320 hp, not 300 like the 435i N55 engine.

I guess between the 428i and m235i it's all about looks vs extra power. The 2 series isn't a head turner like the 4, and the 428i won't have the performance and power of the 2. So it all comes down to what the driver wants more.

The difference in power is purely due to software. Engine and turbo are identical. Any tune will negate the power advantage of the 235i.

[ScarecrowBoat]

If you're not a large person (like over 6') I would absolutely do the M235i. I drove one and it is simply incredible. The N20/26 is a great engine, but the M235i is an unbelievably fun package.

[Ilovemycar]

Originally Posted by PCR0303

I'm new to post but been lurking so not sure where to post this. But I am looking at getting a car soon and I've been looking between the 4 and 2. M-sport 428i vs M235i because they are around the same price well loaded. I know the engines are different, weight, dynamics, but I've already gone over some pros and cons and still unsure. Was wondering of other opinions. What do you guys think?

I just test drove both of them last week. I originally went in to drive the M235. My first impressions were gorgeous looking car, but much smaller than I had thought. It's short, and seems wide...but I quickly learned that the wideness is an illusion created by the shape of the car. The interior space is too small for me. I'm not a huge guy but I felt very tight and confined. Of course all that went out the window as I began to drive the car. Very fast. Great noise. Great dynamics. But as I slowed down and drove the M235 at a legal pace, I came to the conclusion that it's too small for me.
I jumped into an M-sport 428 (because I can't afford a 435 m-sport). I find the interior of the 428 is a much better design, much more comfortable and more pleasing. There is soooo much room. I enjoyed being inside the 428 much more. Yes it's substantially down on power compared the the 235. I liked the proportions of the 428 much better as well. Steering was similar. Brakes are similar. What it boils down for me is that I don't want to just "live" with a car for the next 36 months....rather I want to love my car in every way for each one of those days. For me, that car is the 428 m-sport in EB. (Plus with a jb4, intercooler, down pipe, intake and charge pipe, I'm sure it will be fast enough to make me smile for its speed as well as looks.

Get whatever car you connect with. Drive both back to back.

[linnear]

I drove them back to back a couple of weeks ago.
The M235i was incredible to drive, the problem was it kept asking you to push it...
I really couldn't see myself keeping my license in that car!
The 428i was more mature but still agile.
There was a big difference in HK system as well I noticed, the 4 series HK is vastly superiour imo.

[Phil66]

Hijack alert.
What does the mppk do to the mpg?
Sorry I dived in with this :/

[ny176]

I vote for the 428. I'm biased though.

[AppStoreMoney]

Originally Posted by Paul721

I jumped into an M-sport 428 (because I can't afford a 435 m-sport).

I actually think any car enthusiast that can afford a 428i can also afford a 435i. The bigger engine is only about $5k more expensive (10%). If you're talking about modding the 428i, like you mentioned, the cost difference is even smaller.

Just think about how many months it would take you to save up an extra $5k. I realize that's a lot of money for many people... but not for people that are buying a brand new 428i.

I had similar thoughts when I built my 328i. I wanted to be under some magical number I came up with. Truth is... I blew much more than $5k on less important and silly things in just the past few months. My life would not be any different if I had decided to spend a bit more for the 335i.

I refuse to believe there are people out that that can afford a 428i, but can not do the 435i financially... Think about that and don't make a mistake. It'll cost way more if you have to swap your car out later because you just have to have those 6 cylinders... and you realize it's financially doable

That being said, the 428i is more than fast enough to put a smile on anyone's face. I love my 328i... but next time around a 10% cost difference isn't going to make me go with the smaller engine.

[synclastica_86]

I'd go for the 235 if the 435 is out of the picture.

[335BOY]

Originally Posted by AppStoreMoney

I actually think any car enthusiast that can afford a 428i can also afford a 435i. The bigger engine is only about $5k more expensive (10%). If you're talking about modding the 428i, like you mentioned, the cost difference is even smaller.

Just think about how many months it would take you to save up an extra $5k. I realize that's a lot of money for many people... but not for people that are buying a brand new 428i.

I had similar thoughts when I built my 328i. I wanted to be under some magical number I came up with. Truth is... I blew much more than $5k on less important and silly things in just the past few months. My life would not be any different if I had decided to spend a bit more for the 335i.

I refuse to believe there are people out that that can afford a 428i, but can not do the 435i financially... Think about that and don't make a mistake. It'll cost way more if you have to swap your car out later because you just have to have those 6 cylinders... and you realize it's financially doable

That being said, the 428i is more than fast enough to put a smile on anyone's face. I love my 328i... but next time around a 10% cost difference isn't going to make me go with the smaller engine.

Same logic would suggest a 435 owner could afford a Cayman. Cayman owner could afford a 911. 911 owner could afford........Hey, if i can afford a 428 then I surely can afford a 911!! On my way to Porsche store...............Nice logic Appstoremoney.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by AppStoreMoney

I wanted to be under some magical number I came up with. .

I think that magical number is called a budget

Most people are constrained by one, (and if there are those who aren't constrained by one, I think they are considering 458 instead 428)

[335BOY]

^+1

[F30AM]

Get the M235i with LSD. Cars are getting too big to cater for fat people with their massive rumps and stomachs.

[Alpine435i]

Originally Posted by 335BOY

Same logic would suggest a 435 owner could afford a Cayman. Cayman owner could afford a 911. 911 owner could afford........Hey, if i can afford a 428 then I surely can afford a 911!! On my way to Porsche store...............Nice logic Appstoremoney.

Agreed.

[Alpine435i]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

I think that magical number is called a budget

Most people are constrained by one, (and if there are those who aren't constrained by one, I think they are considering 458 instead 428)

LOL. I'm constantly amazed by the "If you can afford a $50K Car, then..." posts.

[paulbrenneman]

Originally Posted by 335BOY

Same logic would suggest a 435 owner could afford a Cayman. Cayman owner could afford a 911. 911 owner could afford........Hey, if i can afford a 428 then I surely can afford a 911!! On my way to Porsche store...............Nice logic Appstoremoney.

I think he means that if you can afford a 428 now then if you wait a few months, or maybe a year, setting aside a little bit each month eventually you'll have that extra $5k and be able to cover that price difference. Hes not saying if you can afford a 428 now then you can also afford a 435 right now - that logic would be stupid.

[AppStoreMoney]

Originally Posted by paulbrenneman

I think he means that if you can afford a 428 now then if you wait a few months, or maybe a year, setting aside a little bit each month eventually you'll have that extra $5k and be able to cover that price difference. Hes not saying if you can afford a 428 now then you can also afford a 435 right now - that logic would be stupid.

Correct. People that have the means to afford a 428i, can surely wait a few months and come up with the extra 10% needed for the 435i. If the 6 cylinder is important to a car enthusiast, it makes sense to get the correct car. It's cheaper than buying the wrong car, only to upgrade a year later.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by Phil66

Hijack alert.
What does the mppk do to the mpg?
Sorry I dived in with this :/

Assuming your driving habits don't change, nothing.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by AppStoreMoney

I actually think any car enthusiast that can afford a 428i can also afford a 435i. The bigger engine is only about $5k more expensive (10%). If you're talking about modding the 428i, like you mentioned, the cost difference is even smaller.

Just think about how many months it would take you to save up an extra $5k. I realize that's a lot of money for many people... but not for people that are buying a brand new 428i.

I had similar thoughts when I built my 328i. I wanted to be under some magical number I came up with. Truth is... I blew much more than $5k on less important and silly things in just the past few months. My life would not be any different if I had decided to spend a bit more for the 335i.

I refuse to believe there are people out that that can afford a 428i, but can not do the 435i financially... Think about that and don't make a mistake. It'll cost way more if you have to swap your car out later because you just have to have those 6 cylinders... and you realize it's financially doable

That being said, the 428i is more than fast enough to put a smile on anyone's face. I love my 328i... but next time around a 10% cost difference isn't going to make me go with the smaller engine.

I knew I should've saved up a bit more for that helicopter......

There could be other factors. Insurance premiums, states that have property taxes on cars (like VA, a more expensive car will have a more expensive annual tax bill), etc etc.

I mean hell, I could've just gotten an M3 since the sticker price of my F30 was literally the starting price of an M3 but I chose the 335i...mainly because I didn't feel like waiting another 6 months until I wouldn't be forced to pay sticker for a well optioned M3. Sometimes you just gotta pull the trigger or you'll always be saving a little more for the "next" big thing. I could've done ED sure, but even then I didn't want to wait several months, waiting 6 weeks to get my F30 from Germany was long enough of a wait.

[AppStoreMoney]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

I knew I should've saved up a bit more for that helicopter......

Realistically speaking, saving up the cost difference between a 428i and a 435i would take months. Anyone that can dish out $50k for a vehicle, can certainly save up another $5k in a few months.

I know you were being sarcastic and trying to be funny, but one could also save up for a helicopter. That might take years or decades, so it just makes a whole lot less sense.

[AppStoreMoney]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

I mean hell, I could've just gotten an M3 since the sticker price of my F30 was literally the starting price of an M3 but I chose the 335i...mainly because I didn't feel like waiting another 6 months until I wouldn't be forced to pay sticker for a well optioned M3. Sometimes you just gotta pull the trigger or you'll always be saving a little more for the "next" big thing.

Yeah that makes sense. I've just made this mistake multiple times in my life. When I was a college student I bought a Focus ZX3. Eight months later, I realized I could afford a Focus SVT, and I swapped it out.

A year ago, I bought a $51k 328i, when I should have just maxed it all out and got a 335i... And yeah, waiting is painful. Turns out nobody maxes out the 328i, so I had to build mine, which took 4 months.

[RockyTop]

if you are ok with the smaller engine of the 428i...look at the 228i with the track package...you could save a bundle of money.

I'm getting a 435i (picking it up in Munich next week) but if I was going to get a 2 series, I'd probably go with the 228i with track and get the PPK. I haven't run the numbers, but I bet you'd save a ton. Plus I hate the wheels on the m235i but the 228i track pack wheels look clean.

[Alpine435i]

Originally Posted by RockyTop

if you are ok with the smaller engine of the 428i...look at the 228i with the track package...you could save a bundle of money.

Track package? You mean the 228i CSL.