[Eschmacher]

Originally Posted by Alberd N55

Dear All,

With Bootmod3, will we be able to delete the VMAX limiter of 250 Km/h on an F31 335i (N55) 8AT, MPPK, furthermore stock?

Yes, the VMAX is removed with the tune.


Side question:
I had an AFE intake installed previously, and it caused the engine to bog down on cold startups. Anyone know if it will stop doing this with the BM3 tunes?
Or do I need to wait for the cold start removal option to be added in?

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Hi everyone -

I'm just about to pull the trigger on BM3. Got my OBD cable and laptop ready to go. I'm running a '14 335i xdrive w/EWG. Only mods on my car currently are MPE and a drop in filter on the stock intake (K&N). From what I've been reading I should start off with the Stage 1 flash w/93 octane (available in my area). What kind of numbers would I be looking at? At Stage 1, are any supporting mods recommended (Chargepipe), or can I get away with being stock for a bit?

[lens]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

Hi everyone -

I'm just about to pull the trigger on BM3. Got my OBD cable and laptop ready to go. I'm running a '14 335i xdrive w/EWG. Only mods on my car currently are MPE and a drop in filter on the stock intake (K&N). From what I've been reading I should start off with the Stage 1 flash w/93 octane (available in my area). What kind of numbers would I be looking at? At Stage 1, are any supporting mods recommended (Chargepipe), or can I get away with being stock for a bit?

Any type of tune requires chargepipe unless you want to be stranded on the side of the road.

Stage 1 doesn't really require any mods.

[JaredG_F30]

Cold start is removed on the latest Stage 2 OTS maps.

Originally Posted by Eschmacher

Yes, the VMAX is removed with the tune.


Side question:
I had an AFE intake installed previously, and it caused the engine to bog down on cold startups. Anyone know if it will stop doing this with the BM3 tunes?
Or do I need to wait for the cold start removal option to be added in?

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by chaungo

Any type of tune requires chargepipe unless you want to be stranded on the side of the road.

Stage 1 doesn't really require any mods.

Yeah for sure. My first mod is going to be a new chargepipe but was wondering if I could go ahead with the tune and do the CP afterwards? Obviously I'd be more careful before a new one was installed.

[matty088]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

Yeah for sure. My first mod is going to be a new chargepipe but was wondering if I could go ahead with the tune and do the CP afterwards? Obviously I'd be more careful before a new one was installed.

This is a personal question no one can answer for you. What the advice will be is that its a ticking time bomb. Its up to you if thats ok to you. It may last a day or 2 years. No one knows.

My experience is that i ran stage 2 for two weeks then did the CP

[Eschmacher]

Originally Posted by JaredG_F30

Cold start is removed on the latest Stage 2 OTS maps.

I'm on stage 1 because stock downpipe.

[F30_SixSpeed]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

Hi everyone -

I'm just about to pull the trigger on BM3. Got my OBD cable and laptop ready to go. I'm running a '14 335i xdrive w/EWG. Only mods on my car currently are MPE and a drop in filter on the stock intake (K&N). From what I've been reading I should start off with the Stage 1 flash w/93 octane (available in my area). What kind of numbers would I be looking at? At Stage 1, are any supporting mods recommended (Chargepipe), or can I get away with being stock for a bit?

Protuningfreaks are great group of guys who get overwhelmed with the same repetitive questions over and over again and they are super nice about responding to it (obviously this goes a long way with customer service and gaining new customers so I obviously see why.)

Well I'm not affiliated with them so i can be more of an asshole.... shit guys - do you research or read anything before putting something on your car? It literally says it right on the FAQs. Spend a little time reading up on things and stop always wanted everything handed to you on a silver spoon (this is good everyday life advice too.)

Most importantly, every car is different... so if you're that curious get your own results... aka vbox, dragy, dyno, track, etc. Have you gotten a baseline dyno done on your car? What were your numbers?

Seems to me the ones who always want all the information are the ones who never do anything to get the information.

Taken straight from their website:

Any DYNO numbers or results?
Many results on our instagram account @protuningfreaks but here are some links:

f80.bimmerpost.com real world results/records listing:
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1383036

S55 (M3 / M4):
Stage 1 93 octane: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1297004
Stage 1 93 octane, comparison with JB4 on pump gas: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1328339
Stage 2 93 octane: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1320220
Stage 2 93 octane with OEM downpipes, comparison with JB4 : http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...&postcount=477
Stage 2 93 octane + Meth http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1435169

N55 EWG (235i / 335i / 435i / M2 / X4 M40i / X5 35i / 640/535):
M2 (N55 EWG) FBO + Pure Stage 2 on pump 93 octane: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1344711
M2 (N55 EWG) FBO, Stock Turbo on pump 91 octane: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1437086
M235i, Stock turbo, pump gas, stock intercooler, just downpipe+intake: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1331464
335i Stock turbo + meth (world record N55): http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1336322
335i FBO+Meth on stock turbo: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...php?p=21017588
X4 M40i Stock Turbo 93 octane http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1425842
PWG 535 FBO+Pure Stage 2: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1433194

S63TU (M5 / M6 / X5M / X6M):
Stage 2 on 93 octane + downpipes: http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1337143

[JaredG_F30]

If you are on stock DP then you should keep the cold start. Regarding the AFe intake, any aftermarket intake provides the risk of rough idle and hesitation as the MAF sensor prefers laminar flow in order to correctly read air mass. Stock intakes are designed to provide this optimum flow for the sensor. Aftermarket intakes are notorious for creating a turbulent flow which messes with the MAF. This is one of the reasons I chose to go with the CTS turbo intake. You should swap the stock intake back on, reset the DME by disconnecting the neg battery terminal for 5 mins and then see if your issues go away after the DME has had time to re-learn. If the issue goes away you'll know its an issue with the intake.

Originally Posted by Eschmacher

I'm on stage 1 because stock downpipe.

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by F30_SixSpeed

Protuningfreaks are great group of guys who get overwhelmed with the same repetitive questions over and over again and they are super nice about responding to it (obviously this goes a long way with customer service and gaining new customers so I obviously see why.)

Well I'm not affiliated with them so i can be more of an asshole.... shit guys - do you research or read anything before putting something on your car? It literally says it right on the FAQs. Spend a little time reading up on things and stop always wanted everything handed to you on a silver spoon (this is good everyday life advice too.)

Most importantly, every car is different... so if you're that curious get your own results... aka vbox, dragy, dyno, track, etc. Have you gotten a baseline dyno done on your car? What were your numbers?

Seems to me the ones who always want all the information are the ones who never do anything to get the information.

Taken straight from their website:

Any DYNO numbers or results?
Many results on our instagram account @protuningfreaks but here are some links:

f80.bimmerpost.com real world results/records listing:
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1383036

S55 (M3 / M4):
Stage 1 93 octane: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1297004
Stage 1 93 octane, comparison with JB4 on pump gas: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1328339
Stage 2 93 octane: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1320220
Stage 2 93 octane with OEM downpipes, comparison with JB4 : http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...&postcount=477
Stage 2 93 octane + Meth http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1435169

N55 EWG (235i / 335i / 435i / M2 / X4 M40i / X5 35i / 640/535):
M2 (N55 EWG) FBO + Pure Stage 2 on pump 93 octane: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1344711
M2 (N55 EWG) FBO, Stock Turbo on pump 91 octane: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1437086
M235i, Stock turbo, pump gas, stock intercooler, just downpipe+intake: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1331464
335i Stock turbo + meth (world record N55): http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1336322
335i FBO+Meth on stock turbo: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...php?p=21017588
X4 M40i Stock Turbo 93 octane http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1425842
PWG 535 FBO+Pure Stage 2: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1433194

S63TU (M5 / M6 / X5M / X6M):
Stage 2 on 93 octane + downpipes: http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1337143

Bud I've done tremendous research on all the flash tunes currently available for the platform. Forums provide an alternate opinion on the products directly from end users who have real world experience with it.

While I tend to agree that PTF seems like a great company with a great staff, ultimately they are looking to make a profit. Which is totally fine with me. Shit, if anyone understands the bottom line it's me.

I was just looking for some real world experience and opinions from guys/gals who have recently flashed that may have more information than I do. I never understood why anyone in a forum setting would tell people to go "do your research" without asking if I have already done so. Forums are here for people to ask questions and learn from others. What would a forum be without questions, no matter how "noobish" or repetitive they may be?

[F30_SixSpeed]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

Bud I've done tremendous research on all the flash tunes currently available for the platform. Forums provide an alternate opinion on the products directly from end users who have real world experience with it.

While I tend to agree that PTF seems like a great company with a great staff, ultimately they are looking to make a profit. Which is totally fine with me. Shit, if anyone understands the bottom line it's me.

I was just looking for some real world experience and opinions from guys/gals who have recently flashed that may have more information than I do. I never understood why anyone in a forum setting would tell people to go "do your research" without asking if I have already done so. Forums are here for people to ask questions and learn from others. What would a forum be without questions, no matter how "noobish" or repetitive they may be?

Was just trying to help you out, Bud.

Read this entire thread, tons of info on your exact question and lots of dyno numbers from real world members (not companies.) Check them out on IG as well.

Stage 1 requires no additional hardware (essentially stock car aside from tune.) Stage 1 typically makes ~20whp less then stage 2 (generally speaking). I personally recommend to upgrade your charge pipe (this is more preventative maintenance)

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by F30_SixSpeed

Was just trying to help you out, Bud.

Read this entire thread, tons of info on your exact question and lots of dyno numbers from real world members (not companies.) Check them out on IG as well.

No hard feelings man, I appreciate the information and will absolutely look at the links you posted, thank you.

Next thing I have to do if figure out which battery tender to purchase becuase with my luck my battery will shit the bed right before the flash is done

[F30_SixSpeed]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

No hard feelings man, I appreciate the information and will absolutely look at the links you posted, thank you.

Next thing I have to do if figure out which battery tender to purchase becuase with my luck my battery will shit the bed right before the flash is done

I added some additional information in the post above regarding your questions.

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by F30_SixSpeed

I added some additional information in the post above regarding your questions.

Thank you my friend, much appreciated.

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by F30_SixSpeed

I added some additional information in the post above regarding your questions.

BTW, that P3 gauge you have in your car is awesome. Is it the boost or multi gauge?

[ceedawg]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

Yeah for sure. My first mod is going to be a new chargepipe but was wondering if I could go ahead with the tune and do the CP afterwards? Obviously I'd be more careful before a new one was installed.

Go charge pipe my friend its extra insurance with the tune. Some stick with the stock pipe however,I'm not putting on my tune till I get mines plus my FMIC. Get your charge pipe and you'll be good. Insurance you don't get stuck.

[PabloK]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

Hi everyone -

I'm just about to pull the trigger on BM3. Got my OBD cable and laptop ready to go. I'm running a '14 335i xdrive w/EWG. Only mods on my car currently are MPE and a drop in filter on the stock intake (K&N). From what I've been reading I should start off with the Stage 1 flash w/93 octane (available in my area). What kind of numbers would I be looking at? At Stage 1, are any supporting mods recommended (Chargepipe), or can I get away with being stock for a bit?

1st mod, most bang for your buck is catless DP

I dont think you need a charge pipe for just that... I could be wrong.

No idea on numbers... every car is different

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by PabloK

1st mod, most bang for your buck is catless DP

I dont think you need a charge pipe for just that... I could be wrong.

No idea on numbers... every car is different

Thing is I'm still under CPO warranty for another two years and really don't want to swap the DP out yet. The CP I'm willing to do because of all the issues with the stock one. So at the moment I'm looking at ER chargepipe and if BM3 is undetectable (still some debate about that), then I'll go that route. Still have more research to do before I pull the trigger.

[PabloK]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

Thing is I'm still under CPO warranty for another two years and really don't want to swap the DP out yet. The CP I'm willing to do because of all the issues with the stock one. So at the moment I'm looking at ER chargepipe and if BM3 is undetectable (still some debate about that), then I'll go that route. Still have more research to do before I pull the trigger.

how many miles on car? that plays a factor as well....

I have 40,000 on my m235 with stock pipes and tuned with catless DP - Just rolling the dice on this one, so far so good.

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by PabloK

how many miles on car? that plays a factor as well....

I have 40,000 on my m235 with stock pipes and tuned with catless DP - Just rolling the dice on this one, so far so good.

I'm currently at 51,000 miles. Purchased the car on August 31st 2017, a day BEFORE they changed the CPO warranty to one year. So I have almost two full years of CPO warranty remaining. I drive less than 20 miles/day to work and back.

[PabloK]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

I'm currently at 51,000 miles. Purchased the car on August 31st 2017, a day BEFORE they changed the CPO warranty to one year. So I have almost two full years of CPO warranty remaining. I drive less than 20 miles/day to work and back.

I think you'll be fine without the upgraded chargepipe... assuming driving pretty normal, not punching it at every light.

without the catless DP, not sure how much the tune will really help, i think most guys dive headfirst with the Catless DP as it makes so much HP....

I would not worry too much about the warranty in regards to the DP, i guess it all depends on your relationship with the dealer.

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

No hard feelings man, I appreciate the information and will absolutely look at the links you posted, thank you.

Next thing I have to do if figure out which battery tender to purchase becuase with my luck my battery will shit the bed right before the flash is done

Yes you def should get a battery charger for the initial unlock as who knows how good or bad that battery is

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

I'm currently at 51,000 miles. Purchased the car on August 31st 2017, a day BEFORE they changed the CPO warranty to one year. So I have almost two full years of CPO warranty remaining. I drive less than 20 miles/day to work and back.

Definitely understand, stick with STG1 for the meanwhile. Like F30_Sixspeed has said Charge-pipe is a great preventive measure especially in the summer (more heat in the engine).
They Highly Recommend Downpipes especially if trying to gain more and track the car it would be a must.