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      02-14-2019, 12:43 PM   #67
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Yes, agreed. The high cost can be lowered quite a bit, when done individually.

However, I think this can be completely prevented with lubricating the fuel system.
Just bought a bottle of Diesel Service DFS and some liqui moly diesel additive. Unsure which one I will stick with but going to try both. I like that the DFS combats water as well, I do not see that the liqui moly does.
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Hopefully the lubricant will help avoid the problem, but around the 100k mark seems to be a pretty common timeframe with alot of these failures (not that there aren't some early outliers). BMW made the cutoff 120k for whatever reason. Ebay sent me a 8% promo deal yesterday, so I ended up pulling the trigger on a new pump out of Germany for $50 off, which brought it down to $500. I'm going to just consider it preventative maintenance for the 120k marker. Doesn't seem like too bad of a procedure. Since it involves removing the bellhousing cover and locking the flywheel at TDC, I think I may do the guibo / loctite fix while I'm under it as well as fuel filter. This car needs to survive to 200k and beyond!!
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      02-15-2019, 09:43 AM   #69
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Hopefully the lubricant will help avoid the problem, but around the 100k mark seems to be a pretty common timeframe with alot of these failures (not that there aren't some early outliers). BMW made the cutoff 120k for whatever reason. Ebay sent me a 8% promo deal yesterday, so I ended up pulling the trigger on a new pump out of Germany for $50 off, which brought it down to $500. I'm going to just consider it preventative maintenance for the 120k marker. Doesn't seem like too bad of a procedure. Since it involves removing the bellhousing cover and locking the flywheel at TDC, I think I may do the guibo / loctite fix while I'm under it as well as fuel filter. This car needs to survive to 200k and beyond!!
I just had the problem. Full fuel system replacement at 54k. Hoping to prevent round 2...
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In order to be a recall they'd probably need a better pump to replace it with!
This is exactly what I brought up to BMW NA after I got my car back.
A long list of parts were replaced including the gas tank, but the pump is no different than the one that failed at 30k miles. It's just throwing parts at it and crossing fingers that it won't happen again.
We'll see what they say, they're supposedly looking into my case.
I will demand an extension to the warranty at the very least.
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Put quality fuel with a lubricant in it to prevent damage. It's a known problem (Dodge, Ford, VW, whoever uses it, etc), but Bosch simply did not produce a version of the pump that resists the ULSD we have here.

It's a real shame.
Doubt anyone would be making a small diesel targeted for the North American market anymore, especially after the EPA being so hard against diesels.
Eventually diesel owners will lose support, so hold onto your car of choice real well.

A year ago BMW had plans to bring the wonderful B47 4-cyl diesel to the states, as well as an X3 with the 3.0 6-cyl diesel, but that all got cancelled. (Hope that helps people see why I have the opinions I have)
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      02-22-2019, 11:59 AM   #72
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Put quality fuel with a lubricant in it to prevent damage. It's a known problem (Dodge, Ford, VW, whoever uses it, etc), but Bosch simply did not produce a version of the pump that resists the ULSD we have here.

It's a real shame.
Doubt anyone would be making a small diesel targeted for the North American market anymore, especially after the EPA being so hard against diesels.
Eventually diesel owners will lose support, so hold onto your car of choice real well.

A year ago BMW had plans to bring the wonderful B47 4-cyl diesel to the states, as well as an X3 with the 3.0 6-cyl diesel, but that all got cancelled. (Hope that helps people see why I have the opinions I have)

Agreed I want to pick up one of these 2018 bmw diesels (preferably a 6 cylinder) here used in a few years and then keep it forever. Otherwise I will be with my 328d for a long time...
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Sexy new pump is in.

Hopefully the old one will hang on another couple months.
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Sexy new pump is in.

Hopefully the old one will hang on another couple months.
I need to do the same

You're really paranoid about it going out, huh?
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Given the number of failures I dont consider it paranoia. Not sure if the newer part number is revamped, but so far I haven't seen anyone say it's blown up twice on them, so hoping it's better lol

The pump was $500, if it avoids a $10,000 problem I'm just considering it $500 worth of preventative maintenance. Obviously you never know, it could blow up in 6 months, but I'm hoping she will hold for another 100k or more and not leave me stranded 500 miles from home, so I'm comfortable with it
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Given the number of failures I dont consider it paranoia. Not sure if the newer part number is revamped, but so far I haven't seen anyone say it's blown up twice on them, so hoping it's better lol

The pump was $500, if it avoids a $10,000 problem I'm just considering it $500 worth of preventative maintenance. Obviously you never know, it could blow up in 6 months, but I'm hoping she will hold for another 100k or more and not leave me stranded 500 miles from home, so I'm comfortable with it
Hehe, I was just teasing. However, forums have selection bias.


It sure pays off to be prepared ahead of time. My good spare parts collection is huge.

Germany sourced pump?
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Hehe, I was just teasing. However, forums have selection bias.


It sure pays off to be prepared ahead of time. My good spare parts collection is huge.

Germany sourced pump?
I ended up purchasing a new pump. I did consider a refurbished pump. They're available for $400 on ebay from a seller called Diesel Technik out of Germany, they seemed to be pretty legit, and I did look up their website. But going that route also involved shipping the old one back to Germany for a core deposit. Since it could be a little while before I get to it, and International shipping was looking to be pretty expensive, I figured new was the way to go.
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      02-26-2019, 08:11 AM   #78
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I ended up purchasing a new pump. I did consider a refurbished pump. They're available for $400 on ebay from a seller called Diesel Technik out of Germany, they seemed to be pretty legit, and I did look up their website. But going that route also involved shipping the old one back to Germany for a core deposit. Since it could be a little while before I get to it, and International shipping was looking to be pretty expensive, I figured new was the way to go.
Much better price than what the shop listed it at when they replaced mine. Though I don't care what they charge under warranty as long as the bottom number says $0.
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      03-27-2019, 12:40 AM   #79
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Fuel pump (HPFP) replaced

My '14 328d had the diesel pump failure at 41k. Factory warranty covered the entire repair (fuel tank, pump, lines, injectors, labor, etc.) Likely culprit was contaminated diesel. As described, the HPFP disintegrates internally and gets metal bits throughout. Now at 89k, no problem since. I did not receive the Letter offering 10 yrs/120k protection, I will try CustomerRelations@bmwusa.com.

I did receive a letter dated December 2018 for:
"Bolts for the electric motor of the power steering gear".
Same extension offered 10 yrs/ 120k

Also received
Recall #18V-755: Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Cooler.
Remedy Not Yet Available
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Warranty extension

Finally got a 10 year/120k mile limited warranty extension letter today from BMW specific to the HPFP.

So that's good because mine grenaded this past winter at 35k. This is dated March 2019.

Mine is 2015 328d.
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Finally got a 10 year/120k mile limited warranty extension letter today from BMW specific to the HPFP.

So that's good because mine grenaded this past winter at 35k. This is dated March 2019.

Mine is 2015 328d.
just got mine 4 days ago as well .
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Just got mine this week. 36,000 miles and no issues so far. Hope it stays that way.

In terms of additives, you just pour it in the tank when you fill up?
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Just got mine this week. 36,000 miles and no issues so far. Hope it stays that way.

In terms of additives, you just pour it in the tank when you fill up?
I personally don't use anything, just good quality fuel.
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Just got mine this week. 36,000 miles and no issues so far. Hope it stays that way.

In terms of additives, you just pour it in the tank when you fill up?
Past 6 tanks I have just poured it in before I fill up every time!
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I ended up purchasing a new pump. I did consider a refurbished pump. They're available for $400 on ebay from a seller called Diesel Technik out of Germany, they seemed to be pretty legit, and I did look up their website. But going that route also involved shipping the old one back to Germany for a core deposit. Since it could be a little while before I get to it, and International shipping was looking to be pretty expensive, I figured new was the way to go.
Hi everyone. First time bimmer owner and first posting. I too will be doing the HPFP myself. I found instructions on everything except how to set the timing to TDC. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks!
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Hi everyone. First time bimmer owner and first posting. I too will be doing the HPFP myself. I found instructions on everything except how to set the timing to TDC. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks!
These are the instructions for checking the timing which includes locking the flywheel.

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...-unit/GzznX9qz

Not sure if there are any marks near the crank pulley / balancer that might give a clue that you're getting close. But I'm thinking if there isn't this could be done with 2 people, one sitting by the flywheel trying to insert the locking pin and another slowly rotating the crank. I'm assuming the locking pin only has one slot it can go into, but I could be wrong there too.

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These are the instructions for checking the timing which includes locking the flywheel.
Thanks! Just to confirm.. there's only one slot for the pin to go in on the flywheel and that slot aligns with TDC? Btw, how did your install go?
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Thanks! Just to confirm.. there's only one slot for the pin to go in on the flywheel and that slot aligns with TDC? Btw, how did your install go?
It's still on the to do list. 120k is right around the corner though, so I am going to knock out this project and another trans fluid change in the next few weeks I'm thinking.

This guy made a very good video changing the timing chain with the engine in the vehicle. At about 2:00 there's some shots of the locking hole on the flywheel (granted there is no transmission installed), from what I can see it will only fit in one position. (It's actually right next to the sticker in the video preview)

I can't really tell which way is up at that section of the video, but if my orientation is correct, the hole for locking it in place appears to be on the passenger side right around behind where the DPF sits.

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