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      12-06-2018, 09:58 AM   #1
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Please help car not starting

I have a 2013 335i so it started fine no issues then battery died I trickle charged it to 100% and my father was putting the battery in and dropped the ratched and he said it cause a big spark fast forward I’m trying to start the car and I’m getting 12 codes they are all

p10E4,p13CD,p15D9,p15F8,p15ED,p10D7,p13E6,UO19F,p2 088,p2090,p0031,p0343

Any help would be appreciated I see it’s shorts or something along those lines how do I fix this ?
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      12-06-2018, 10:48 AM   #2
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You removed the battery to charge it? You can charge it from the posts under the hood which is the preferred method so you don't bypass the computer. You can try unplugging the negative terminal and waiting 20 minutes before reconnecting to see if that clears the codes.
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      12-06-2018, 10:54 AM   #3
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I see it’s shorts or something along those lines how do I fix this ?
Unless you have a diagnostic read and repair tool you don't. You'll probably have to get it flat bedded to a shop. If you go to an indy make sure ahead of time that they have the necessary tools and experience to work on BMW.
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You removed the battery to charge it? You can charge it from the posts under the hood
+1. Not to kick a guy when he's down, but this calls for a big time RTFM.
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good luck with the problem
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      12-06-2018, 02:10 PM   #5
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What shorted when the ratchet dropped?
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Just to ask, did he drop the ratchet when the battery was already connected to the car (like terminal was already on) or did he just straight up drop it across the battery?

Edit: check this I dunno how specific it is but worth a shot to see what's up https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/bmw/
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      12-06-2018, 10:37 PM   #7
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i didn’t have an outlet near the car so I had to unplug it and I tried taking battery off and putting back on no luck seems like from those codes there’s some kind of short somewhere
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      12-07-2018, 07:39 AM   #8
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If the car detects a number of shorts the system will shut down until the causes have been remedied and the codes cleared.

Next time use an extension cord.
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      12-07-2018, 07:50 AM   #9
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If the car detects a number of shorts the system will shut down until the causes have been remedied and the codes cleared.

Next time use an extension cord.
You really shouldn't use an extension cord with trickle chargers, using an average cheapo extension cord increases the risk of fire.

At least that's what the manual for my Battery Tender Plus advises, and I'd rather not take the risk. Luckily I have an outlet right in front of my car and can connect everything straight to the posts under the hood.
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      12-07-2018, 08:16 AM   #10
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I know for next time could this be a blown fuse able link?
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      12-07-2018, 09:52 AM   #11
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You really shouldn't use an extension cord with trickle chargers, using an average cheapo extension cord increases the risk of fire.
A trickle charger might draw 2 amperes, tops. Even an 18 gauge 50 foot extension cord is rated for 10 amperes. You should use an outdoor rated extension cord outdoors, but other than that there's no reason not to use an extension cord. Your manual says not to use them so they won't be legally liable for the inevitable idiot who uses 500 feet of 24 gauge indoor rated wire.
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A trickle charger might draw 2 amperes, tops. Even an 18 gauge 50 foot extension cord is rated for 10 amperes. You should use an outdoor rated extension cord outdoors, but other than that there's no reason not to use an extension cord. Your manual says not to use them so they won't be legally liable for the inevitable idiot who uses 500 feet of 24 gauge indoor rated wire.
Yeah figured as much, but no harm in following the manual

There's been a few house fires related to trickle chargers (probably cheap ones or being used improperly) so I tried to cut down on as many variables as possible.
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Anyone know where main relay is I can’t find any relays
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      12-07-2018, 06:32 PM   #14
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Tons of results with a quick google search for f30 relay diagram. Should be easy to locate, on this site and others (including fuse-box.info)
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      12-08-2018, 03:55 AM   #15
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I’ve looked up some of these codes and most of them point to a ground short or something to do with no power with terminal 15N or KL87 anybody have a clue ?
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      12-08-2018, 06:33 AM   #16
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I would do a google search and YouTube search on how to fix this.
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Somebody above has pointed out that you might need to reset the codes before the dad starts, have you done/tried that?
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Checked all fuses and seem to be good
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Somebody above has pointed out that you might need to reset the codes before the dad starts, have you done/tried that?
I tried resetting but I have a generic obd scanner and when I try to erase it just comes back
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Just for more info, what exactly happens when you attempt to start the car?
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Just for more info, what exactly happens when you attempt to start the car?
It just cranks
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Just for more info, what exactly happens when you attempt to start the car?
It just cranks
Does accessory work completely fine?
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