[AyrshireColin]

Was having a conversation with my wife a couple of weeks ago re. 'the fuel crisis' (of which we seen nothing in my part of the world) and she was telling me that she was in a call where it was being discussed that in the south of England the problem was more prevalent because of the lack of petrol stations rather than the lack of fuel (I know that the fact that there was in fact plenty of fuel was well reported) - seemingly there are less petrol stations because the land is more valuable when used for different purposes/petrol stations don't generate enough income to justify building petrol stations. We had a bit of a laugh and basically said 'surely that can't be true!'.

Roll on to the weekend and we were in Windsor with a hire car. When returning to the airport and returning the hire car I attempted to fill it up before returning - driving from Legoland to Windsor to Old Windsor to Heathrow I came across 1 petrol station, 1 petrol station who that had no fuel. I stay in Kilmarnock, which is a decent sized town by Scottish standards but would be considered small by English standards (population of about 45k) and there are 7 petrol stations in the town.

Bonkers!

[pmgreenwood]

Originally Posted by AyrshireColin

Was having a conversation with my wife a couple of weeks ago re. 'the fuel crisis' (of which we seen nothing in my part of the world) and she was telling me that she was in a call where it was being discussed that in the south of England the problem was more prevalent because of the lack of petrol stations rather than the lack of fuel (I know that the fact that there was in fact plenty of fuel was well reported) - seemingly there are less petrol stations because the land is more valuable when used for different purposes/petrol stations don't generate enough income to justify building petrol stations. We had a bit of a laugh and basically said 'surely that can't be true!'.

Roll on to the weekend and we were in Windsor with a hire car. When returning to the airport and returning the hire car I attempted to fill it up before returning - driving from Legoland to Windsor to Old Windsor to Heathrow I came across 1 petrol station, 1 petrol station who that had no fuel. I stay in Kilmarnock, which is a decent sized town by Scottish standards but would be considered small by English standards (population of about 45k) and there are 7 petrol stations in the town.

Bonkers!

Also selling fuel has become not a very profitable activity with many petrol stations relying on convenience food sales and there is a limit to the number of main road locations where that is profitable

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by AyrshireColin

Was having a conversation with my wife a couple of weeks ago re. 'the fuel crisis' (of which we seen nothing in my part of the world) and she was telling me that she was in a call where it was being discussed that in the south of England the problem was more prevalent because of the lack of petrol stations rather than the lack of fuel (I know that the fact that there was in fact plenty of fuel was well reported) - seemingly there are less petrol stations because the land is more valuable when used for different purposes/petrol stations don't generate enough income to justify building petrol stations. We had a bit of a laugh and basically said 'surely that can't be true!'.

Roll on to the weekend and we were in Windsor with a hire car. When returning to the airport and returning the hire car I attempted to fill it up before returning - driving from Legoland to Windsor to Old Windsor to Heathrow I came across 1 petrol station, 1 petrol station who that had no fuel. I stay in Kilmarnock, which is a decent sized town by Scottish standards but would be considered small by English standards (population of about 45k) and there are 7 petrol stations in the town.

Bonkers!

We have a hotel on Bayswater Road with a petrol station and mini Waitrose on the ground floor. We've considered trying to buy out the lease but the local authority wont let us as its about the only petrol station on that bit of road now (which is a fairly major route into and out of Marble Arch / Park Lane area)

Hope legoland was great fun! There is a petrol station at Heathrow near another of our hotels, you should have said!

[AyrshireColin]

Originally Posted by isleaiw1

We have a hotel on Bayswater Road with a petrol station and mini Waitrose on the ground floor. We've considered trying to buy out the lease but the local authority wont let us as its about the only petrol station on that bit of road now (which is a fairly major route into and out of Marble Arch / Park Lane area)

Hope legoland was great fun! There is a petrol station at Heathrow near another of our hotels, you should have said!

Yeah I didn't really believe it when we talked about it a few weeks ago but with it being topical and actually looking for a station it was nuts.

Legoland was great, kids had a brilliant time. One for you to earmark, the grandkids would love it.

I just plunked the T5 Sixt return into sat-nav and followed - not used to driving near airports that have more than one terminal so didn't want to get lost!

[dazzapb]

Can think of at least 5 petrol stations in the Richmond borough area of London that have been steamrollered for residential usage in the last 10 years. Mostly shell funny enough, latest is near Chiswick bridge.
To be fair there's still loads around.

[Ennoch]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Yes, west side, I'm in Lochaber.

Good to know if I ever need weather conditions on the ground I don't suppose you can see the Ben from where you are (spot the climber in me coming out!)?

[DaveA]

Well, not sure if things have improved on the supply side much, or if folk have stoped the panicking, but I have not seen any queues for a while now...

... not that it will matter all that much if prices continue the way they have gone recently... up 10p in a month here... I've not been out much so have not spotted that the prices were climbing... and just now paid £1.54/l for 99 Momentum at my local Tesco...

To think we were at £1.07/l this time last year (just checking Fuelly)... That was 95 octane, but, nonetheless.....

[Techno 9000]

The black stuff is now higher than than I ever paid for Super Unleaded back in the day. The going rate around me is 147 ppl, however on a road trip over the weekend I found Diesel at 142 ppl at a Texaco outside of Whitchurch on the A41. The highest was 167ppl, as usual somewhere on a motorway.

The only saving grace was an average of 48mpg over the circa 700 miles I did on Saturday.

[Watsey]

I drive through Amersham today and saw Shell regular diesel was £1.57/L.

Robbing gits.

[TouringPleb]

I had my first £100 fill up that other day.

£110!

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by TouringPleb

I had my first £100 fill up that other day.

£110!

My last two (empty to full) were £115.

Downside of an X5 and that I let it get empty, as I prefer to fill up before that point.

[GOF_430d]

Sainsburys were selling diesel here in Watford for 1.449 per litre last Thursday when I filled up.

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by Watsey

I drive through Amersham today and saw Shell regular diesel was £1.57/L.

Robbing gits.

Daughter told me that Shell V Power (Is that what its called?) was £1.82 at a service station by the M1 on Friday - and up north at that! But when you have a fuel card for shell and that is the only station nearby, you pay it anyway...

That's over £8 a gallon - or nearly 30p a mile for the C43!

[Wolverine]

I paid 147.9p/L at a Tesco last Thursday for the black pump, which was actually cheaper than unleaded/E10 at 148.9p/L. I don't think I have ever seen diesel cheaper than petrol before. I certainly don't recall seeing such since I passed my test in 2006 (I know, I know!)

Most places seem to be at about the 152-155p/L for diesel though, with petrol coming in at just under 150p/L. I don't even look at the V Power/Super fuel anymore (but I did pay over 140 p/L for the V power diesel back in 2010 when we had the issues then)

Something's got to give soon hasn't it?

[g9icy]

Costco is the only way I can afford fuel at the moment

It was around 1.37 for E10 and 1.43 for E5 on my last fill up. I should imagine there's another 5p added on now though.

[winther1]

Originally Posted by g9icy

Costco is the only way I can afford fuel at the moment

It was around 1.37 for E10 and 1.43 for E5 on my last fill up. I should imagine there's another 5p added on now though.

Havent followed the news on this. Any idea if the government is working on a way to reduce the cost (as most of it is taxation, they can regulate) or they want high fuel prices to force us into electric?

[g9icy]

Originally Posted by winther1

Havent followed the news on this. Any idea if the government is working on a way to reduce the cost (as most of it is taxation, they can regulate) or they want high fuel prices to force us into electric?

I've heard nothing, but yes I imagine there's no rush to get us all into electric (which would cost me more monthly including fuel savings).

[mcscoobs]

Originally Posted by Watsey

I drive through Amersham today and saw Shell regular diesel was £1.57/L.

Robbing gits.

This is right by where my missus lives... I drive 2 mins down the road to Tesco now

[pmgreenwood]

Originally Posted by winther1

Havent followed the news on this. Any idea if the government is working on a way to reduce the cost (as most of it is taxation, they can regulate) or they want high fuel prices to force us into electric?

With the pressure on the Treasury from Covid and afterwards, I think we have had the best we can hope for of continuing the duty freeze.

It will be interesting to see whether Biden relating some of the US Gov's reserve stocks yesterday has any impact on Global wholesale prices.

[MrManor]

And it begins again!

[saltyamigo]

We are in the haulage business so obviously diesel prices affect us a lot, just checking back through my email for BP bulk prices which goes back to 2013 when they started emailing pdf invoices rather than posting paper copies. Prices at 6 monthly intervals from August 13, bulk prices ex VAT for anyone who is interested in the price trends. Price for next week is 123.55p

Aug 13 - 114.21p
Feb 14 - 110.38p
Aug 14 - 107.39p
Feb 15 - 93.59p
Aug 15 - 88.93p
Feb 16 - 80.54p
Aug 16 - 88.88p
Feb 17 - 97.14p
Aug 17 - 95.00p
Feb 18 - 96.49p
Aug 18 - 101.67p
Feb 19 - 103.79p
Aug 19 - 104.54p
Feb 20 - 99.21p
Aug 20 - 91.46p
Feb 21 - 98.01p
Aug 21 - 104.34p
Feb 22 - 121.41p

[winther1]

Originally Posted by pmgreenwood

With the pressure on the Treasury from Covid and afterwards, I think we have had the best we can hope for of continuing the duty freeze.

It will be interesting to see whether Biden relating some of the US Gov's reserve stocks yesterday has any impact on Global wholesale prices.

I think it's time for the US to pick up the energy independence mission again - resume the keystone pipeline, and eventually not be dependent on Russia, Saudi Arabia and other countries run by nutjobs.