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      01-06-2017, 03:24 PM   #1
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Do I have CIC or NBT HU?

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Can anybody confirm what type of HU I have in my car, have checked my build info against the VIN and it's not mentioned on there. I'm also out of the UK at the moment so can't physically remove the HU to check. Car is August 2015 built F30 LCI with Business Nav.

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Possible HU_entrynav
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Possible HU_entrynav
Thanks Vorph, do you know how I'd be able to find out for definite, would it be on a label on the HU?
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Thanks Vorph, do you know how I'd be able to find out for definite, would it be on a label on the HU?
Will never be a CIC , CIC ended on 2012.

2013 started NBT and now Idrive 5.0.

Do you have a high resolution wide screen or a small square screen?
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Will never be a CIC , CIC ended on 2012.

2013 started NBT and now Idrive 5.0.

Do you have a high resolution wide screen or a small square screen?
Hi Alan

Thanks for confirmation regarding CIC, car originally came with a 6.5" screen (smaller square viewing area) but I've retrofitted a 8.5" screen since (full screen viewing area).
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Can't help unless i know the meanings for HV & CIC .
Sorry. Not everybody is clued up on the abbrevations.
I know VIN.
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Can't help unless i know the meanings for HV & CIC .
Sorry. Not everybody is clued up on the abbrevations.
I know VIN.
Lol, sorry,it's all related to the I-Drive.........HU, Head Unit
CIC, Car Information Computer (up to late 2012 as Alan quite rightly pointed out)
CIC HIGH (Pro Nav) otherwise known as NBT (Next Big Thing)??

I'm just trying to find out what I-Drive system I have fitted to my car as I'm interested in adding a reversing camera. Have just found a bit of info on Wikipedia and as Vorph mentioned it looks like I have HU_Entrynav.........it's bloody confusing TBH (To Be Honest)

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Can't help unless i know the meanings for HV & CIC .
Sorry. Not everybody is clued up on the abbrevations.
I know VIN.
M-ASK = Original iDrive system
CCC = Car Communication Computer (the iDrive Business Navigation)
CIC = Car Information Computer (the next generation iDrive from 2008 ish)
NBT = Next Best Thing (another new generation iDrive in 2012)
HU = Head Unit (the bit slotted into the dash)

You've got to love an acronym

EDIT - I was one minute too slow
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M-ASK = Original iDrive system
CCC = Car Communication Computer (the iDrive Business Navigation)
CIC = Car Information Computer (the next generation iDrive from 2008 ish)
NBT = Next Best Thing (another new generation iDrive in 2012)
HU = Head Unit (the bit slotted into the dash)

You've got to love an acronym

EDIT - I was one minute too slow
Lol, still funny though.........PMSL
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Lol, sorry,it's all related to the I-Drive.........HU, Head Unit
CIC, Car Information Computer (up to late 2012 as Alan quite rightly pointed out)
CIC HIGH (Pro Nav) otherwise known as NBT (Next Big Thing)??

I'm just trying to find out what I-Drive system I have fitted to my car as I'm interested in adding a reversing camera. Have just found a bit of info on Wikipedia and as Vorph mentioned it looks like I have HU_Entrynav.........it's bloody confusing TBH (To Be Honest)

TTFN
I was asked to code a mate's M135i with business nav shortly after I'd done by own NBT 335d.

To my surprise that was indeed a HU_Entrynav which I believe also has the combox built in (as does the NBT). It's likely therefore that you have the same. You can check by looking under the boot floor - if you have no combox then it must be built into the HU (and therefore is HU_Entrynav). If you do have a combox (sliver box alongside the underfloor fusebox) then the HU is surely something else (I don't know what!!).

I know this isn't a guarantee and don't know what that means for your camera?
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I was asked to code a mate's M135i with business nav shortly after I'd done by own NBT 335d.

To my surprise that was indeed a HU_Entrynav which I believe also has the combox built in (as does the NBT). It's likely therefore that you have the same. You can check by looking under the boot floor - if you have no combox then it must be built into the HU (and therefore is HU_Entrynav). If you do have a combox (sliver box alongside the underfloor fusebox) then the HU is surely something else (I don't know what!!).

I know this isn't a guarantee and don't know what that means for your camera?
Perfect, thanks very much for the heads-up, will take a look in the boot when I get back to the UK, just trying to avoid buying a retrofit OEM camera kit that's not compatible with my car. Cheers
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Thanks guys.

All i know is how to drive & handel our motors.

This fourm is so informative. I didn't know how to delete previous sat nav addresses, me being a first time sat nav user.
Replied within minutes.
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I was asked to code a mate's M135i with business nav shortly after I'd done by own NBT 335d.

To my surprise that was indeed a HU_Entrynav which I believe also has the combox built in (as does the NBT). It's likely therefore that you have the same. You can check by looking under the boot floor - if you have no combox then it must be built into the HU (and therefore is HU_Entrynav). If you do have a combox (sliver box alongside the underfloor fusebox) then the HU is surely something else (I don't know what!!).

I know this isn't a guarantee and don't know what that means for your camera?
Had a look in the boot of my car today and guess what..................I have a combox next to the fuse box so now I'm even more confused!!
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Had a look in the boot of my car today and guess what..................I have a combox next to the fuse box so now I'm even more confused!!
I'm not sure that is a combox. I have the same black box but E-Sys only reports HU_ENTRYNAV, there is no CMB_MEDIA.
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I'm not sure that is a combox. I have the same black box but E-Sys only reports HU_ENTRYNAV, there is no CMB_MEDIA.
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      01-08-2017, 10:26 AM   #16
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I was asked to code a mate's M135i with business nav shortly after I'd done by own NBT 335d.

To my surprise that was indeed a HU_Entrynav which I believe also has the combox built in (as does the NBT). It's likely therefore that you have the same. You can check by looking under the boot floor - if you have no combox then it must be built into the HU (and therefore is HU_Entrynav). If you do have a combox (sliver box alongside the underfloor fusebox) then the HU is surely something else (I don't know what!!).

I know this isn't a guarantee and don't know what that means for your camera?
Had a look in the boot of my car today and guess what..................I have a combox next to the fuse box so now I'm even more confused!!
If it's black it's not a combox.

You have HU_ENTRYNAV so basically a slightly downgraded version of NBT.
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      01-08-2017, 11:11 AM   #17
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If it's black it's not a combox.

You have HU_ENTRYNAV so basically a slightly downgraded version of NBT.
Yes it's black, not a combox then, thanks very much for confirming that
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Hi Alan

Thanks for confirmation regarding CIC, car originally came with a 6.5" screen (smaller square viewing area) but I've retrofitted a 8.5" screen since (full screen viewing area).
Hi Hugrov

My car is a 2016 f30 lci
I intend to retrofit a 8.5" screen as you have done. I would be very grateful if you could give me details of the supplier you used and any links/info that may be of help.

Thank you kilmoremick
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Hi Hugrov

My car is a 2016 f30 lci
I intend to retrofit a 8.5" screen as you have done. I would be very grateful if you could give me details of the supplier you used and any links/info that may be of help.

Thank you kilmoremick
Hi there

I basically bought the 8.8" screen from eBay, it's just a case of keeping an eye out for a decent one, prices vary and I paid £400 but the screen was immaculate and completely unmarked. There are various dismantlers in Latvia that advertise complete NBT systems etc, it might be worth asking them if they have a screen for sale separately. You just need to be careful that any screen you buy is compatible with your HU. Teaston and Vorph seem to be the guys to speak to in that regard.

I've pasted a link below which is worth a read, you can glean a lot of info from it. Replacing the screen itself is very easy and you'll need to get some coding done. Be aware that the screen will remain completely blank once connected until the coding is done so don't be alarmed.

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1295850

Hope that helps, just let me know if you need any further info.

Cheers
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I have full screen carplay they said its id6 with 4 gb ram. I searched that a version has 2 gb too. How can i understand mine ise 2 or 4?
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