[CIWS]

Originally Posted by ronanz

Man, I'd love to but that would be a looooonnnnnnggg drive!

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Ship your car out there in a covered truck and ride in the trunk. Save on having to drive.

[ronanz]

Hope to have Baseline Updates Monday 12/14. So far, news is not good for DinanTronics S2 and "Supposed" gains...


Dyno: Mainline 1800AWD


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[CIWS]

Originally Posted by ronanz

Hope to have Baseline Updates Monday 12/14. So far, news is not good for DinanTronics S2 and "Supposed" gains...

[cryptocar]

Originally Posted by CIWS

I know I've dynoed my Dinan S2 more than once. I was embarrassed by what I saw. I had a small boost leak that's been fixed. But still it was not even trying to build high boost. So glad to be rid of it!

[ronanz]

Originally Posted by cryptocar

I know I've dynoed my Dinan S2 more than once. I was embarrassed by what I saw. I had a small boost leak that's been fixed. But still it was not even trying to build high boost. So glad to be rid of it!

HP/TQ not even in the same Zip Code as published. The Mainline Dyno ENZO uses is VERY accurate, vs the other commonly used "marketing" dyno's. "Embarrassed" is a understatement...

Having said that....DinanTronics S2 is definitely a "safe" tune, higher numbers than Factory Stock and/or MPPK, significantly lower than ENZO Flash...tooo safe for me.

DT S2 gunna be for sale if anyone's interested...

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[lens]

Originally Posted by ronanz

HP/TQ not even in the same Zip Code as published. The Mainline Dyno ENZO uses is VERY accurate, vs the other commonly used "marketing" dyno's. "Embarrassed" is a understatement...

Having said that....DinanTronics S2 is definitely a "safe" tune, higher numbers than Factory Stock and/or MPPK, significantly lower than ENZO Flash...tooo safe for me.

DT S2 gunna be for sale if anyone's interested...

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What did the S2 dyno? I know it's crap compared to flash tunes.


I can't wait till summer, I'll be driving down from Montreal and having all my stuff installed by Enzo

[cryptocar]

Originally Posted by ronanz

HP/TQ not even in the same Zip Code as published. The Mainline Dyno ENZO uses is VERY accurate, vs the other commonly used "marketing" dyno's. "Embarrassed" is a understatement...

Having said that....DinanTronics S2 is definitely a "safe" tune, higher numbers than Factory Stock and/or MPPK, significantly lower than ENZO Flash...tooo safe for me.

DT S2 gunna be for sale if anyone's interested...

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I gotta disagree with "safe" blew my charge pipe on stage 1 with no coverage based on dealer fraud.

[ronanz]

Originally Posted by cryptocar

I gotta disagree with "safe" blew my charge pipe on stage 1 with no coverage based on dealer fraud.

Yeah, your case is a complete bummer...but in all fairness the OEM Charge Pipe is a known weak link, even under stock boost. The Dinan S1 just exposed this quicker.

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[ronanz]

Originally Posted by ROBNYC

Man dealer fraud ? =

ronanz haha awesome! saw your post on IG

was messing with my daughter. She gets the car after I'm done playing

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[FSociety]

Originally Posted by ronanz

was messing with my daughter. She gets the car after I'm done playing

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haha yes I did see that

Btw, the chargepipe on the F25 X3 35i and 28 is really solid I wonder why.
Me and my pal mge92 have increased from 17 psi (stock) up to 21-22 psi boost on our fragile engine for over a year.
He's had Dinan stage1 and now EnzoTuned since Aug.
I had RaceChip since Dec 2014 till Sept 2015 and EnzoTuned since (have tried 2 different updates as well 21.8 and 22) fast and aggressive, there's some broken rods around there with N20 since they're pushing 23 psi haha.
My pal Crashnbrn5 use to beat on his X3 35i (n55) for a whole 36 months and stock CP was fine.
The only downfall with our F25 is barely any parts to mod available.

[lens]

Originally Posted by ROBNYC

Man dealer fraud ? =

ronanz haha awesome! saw your post on IG

What's his instagram?

[ronanz]

Originally Posted by chaungo

What's his instagram?

I don't post anything on my private acct. It was a reply on ENZO's IG acct...the post above. ^^ with my car on the Dyno

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[lens]

Originally Posted by ronanz

I don't post anything on my private acct. It was a reply on ENZO's IG acct...the post above. ^^ with my car on the Dyno

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Man, seeing the damn Enzo IG makes me very impatient for summer.

[cryptocar]

Originally Posted by ROBNYC

Man dealer fraud ? =

ronanz haha awesome! saw your post on IG

There's a whole thread on it but I'm not gonna muck up this thread with that nonsense.

[CIWS]

Originally Posted by ronanz

HP/TQ not even in the same Zip Code as published. The Mainline Dyno ENZO uses is VERY accurate, vs the other commonly used "marketing" dyno's. "Embarrassed" is a understatement... .

Well an "accurate" dyno is a bit of a misnomer. Unless the test equipment is way out of calibration, what any dyno user should look for is the delta (change) in the numbers. It doesn't really matter if you run a car on one dyno and it says it's producing 330HP and a different one says it's producing 350HP. The most important factor is getting a baseline of whatever reading, then rerunning the car on the same dyno after mods are done to see how much of a change it produced. That tells you if the mods and car are performing in the range it should be.

For instance if you've seen the video Dinan put out a few years back where they tested an 335i MPPK car and used a dynapack dyno (good machine) they said it came out with numbers in the 327HP range. That's all well and good, but the problem with that is we have no idea what the output numbers were on that car before the MPPK was installed. So we don't really have a baseline reference to compare any potential change. The car could have been making 322HP stock and then measured post MPPK and making 327, which could actually still fall in a range of error (5HP) meaning the MPPK was useless. We simply don't know because no baseline is provided before the modification.

In your case you're being tested on the same dyno before and after mods /tunes are added to the car so your numbers should give you a good idea how much of a change has occurred with them added.

[ronanz]

Originally Posted by CIWS

Well an "accurate" dyno is a bit of a misnomer. Unless the test equipment is way out of calibration, what any dyno user should look for is the delta (change) in the numbers. It doesn't really matter if you run a car on one dyno and it says it's producing 330HP and a different one says it's producing 350HP. The most important factor is getting a baseline of whatever reading, then rerunning the car on the same dyno after mods are done to see how much of a change it produced. That tells you if the mods and car are performing in the range it should be.

For instance if you've seen the video Dinan put out a few years back where they tested an 335i MPPK car and used a dynapack dyno (good machine) they said it came out with numbers in the 327HP range. That's all well and good, but the problem with that is we have no idea what the output numbers were on that car before the MPPK was installed. So we don't really have a baseline reference to compare any potential change. The car could have been making 322HP stock and then measured post MPPK and making 327, which could actually still fall in a range of error (5HP) meaning the MPPK was useless. We simply don't know because no baseline is provided before the modification.

In your case you're being tested on the same dyno before and after mods /tunes are added to the car so your numbers should give you a good idea how much of a change has occurred with them added.

Although I appreciate your detailed explanation, I understand how and why a Dyno works. I was questioning Dinans advertised gains vs reality. Regardless of what machine you're running, you should at least be in the same zip code....

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[M-terkait]

any update on S2 pure with flash?

[ronanz]

Originally Posted by M-terkait

any update on S2 pure with flash?

It's coming. ENZO completed MPPK with DinanTronics S2 baseline then removed DT S2 and ran MPPK baseline. They're finalizing their ENZO Tune base now.
Once that's done, they'll start the PureTurbo S2 and supporting goodies install.

Once FBO install is complete, they'll re-tune/Dyno for S2.

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[Jadar]

Originally Posted by ronanz

It's coming. ENZO completed MPPK with DinanTronics S2 baseline then removed DT S2 and ran MPPK baseline. They're finalizing their ENZO Tune base now.
Once that's done, they'll start the PureTurbo S2 and supporting goodies install.

Once FBO install is complete, they'll re-tune/Dyno for S2.

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I cant wait to see the results. Chris also gave me some great news, as they will have a bench flash tune coming up in January for those of us that dont want to make the drive to New York and want to do our own turbo upgrade. THey will have some type of flash for stage 1 pure and stage 2 pure. Just like before you just gotta bolt up your own turbo and send them the DME.

I know it wont be making the same power as a custom dyno tune but its a great option vs shipping the car.

SO in conclusion your #'s will be somewhat the pioneer and benchmark for those of us to compare to if we opt for the above solution and do our own dyno locally.

[CIWS]

Originally Posted by ronanz

Although I appreciate your detailed explanation, I understand how and why a Dyno works. I was questioning Dinans advertised gains vs reality. Regardless of what machine you're running, you should at least be in the same zip code....

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No worries, will be interesting to see how those numbers have come out. I've pretty much talked myself out the Dinantronics at this point due to multiple factors seen here in the forum. But I'm getting the feeling your tested info will be the final nail.

[lens]

Originally Posted by CIWS

No worries, will be interesting to see how those numbers have come out. I've pretty much talked myself out the Dinantronics at this point due to multiple factors seen here in the forum. But I'm getting the feeling your tested info will be the final nail.

Same here, it costs 3500$ +tax for a S2 here installed.

After seeing Enzoperformance on their professionalism and friendliness (Important) I was dead set on getting their ECU tune, especially since their numbers are proven as well.

[ronanz]

Just to be clear...I'm MORE than happy to have ENZO use my vehicle as their Test Mule. Ultimately, I'm not looking to break any records, I just wanted the highest output Tune that centers around SAFETY and RELIABILITY. The vehicle will never be tracked, but wanted a "sleeper" to make you look stupid every once in a while!

Will that mean leaving power on the table? Absolutely...but, he'll at least know where that threshold is.

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