[smilo]

Hi everybody,
After I made idrive Business to NBT retrofit on my F30, I have an issue in the radio stations, nothing works.
Neither FM nor AM works, I tried to connect car antenna connector to black and white NBT connectors, I had just very poor signal and one or two stations with bad sound quality
I have found this link which describe a DIY tutorial of the similar issue:
http://blog.diyobd2.fr/diy-e60-nbt-r...rsity-antenna/

Someone had this issue ? did this tutorial ?

[thehobbit]

Originally Posted by smilo

Hi everybody,
After I made idrive Business to NBT retrofit on my F30, I have an issue in the radio stations, nothing works.
Neither FM nor AM works, I tried to connect car antenna connector to black and white NBT connectors, I had just very poor signal and one or two stations with bad sound quality
I have found this link which describe a DIY tutorial of the similar issue:
http://blog.diyobd2.fr/diy-e60-nbt-r...rsity-antenna/

Someone had this issue ? did this tutorial ?

As I've already stated in NBT retrofit thread (worth a look), you must detach pin 13 of NBT harness (NBT side) and connect it to a +12V switched source.

[smilo]

Thx for your help
I just made a little diagram of what you said (attached picture)
You agree with this ?

[smilo]

Anybody to confirm the diagram please ?

[smilo]

Unfortunatly, it doesn't work..
Maybe my diagram is false, or NBT needs absolutly amplifier (65 20 9 231 174) to get a good signal quality

Hope get your feedback

[thehobbit]

I haven't connected to pin 15, but to cigarette lighter +ve

[smilo]

I also tried to cigarette +ve source, nothing changed
Do I have to supply only pin #13 NBT side ? or also pin #13 Car side ?

[Mashman]

I came across this post, when I was looking for something else. I know this is an old post, but it doesn't contain the solution (and more importantly contains incorrect information), so I decided to post to it.

The problem is that NBT does not put out a 'radio on' signal on pin 13, like CCC, and CIC do. The radio on signal is used by cars without NBT to power the amplifier, and diversity antenna. If you are retrofitting NBT, and you prior headunit was putting out a radio on signal on pin 13, you need to send power on pin 13 on the car side. The easiest way is to connect pin 13 on the harness/car side to pin 15. Pin 15 is powered with the ignition, so your amplifier, and diversity antenna will be powered whenever the ignition is on.

[peikko]

Originally Posted by Mashman

I came across this post, when I was looking for something else. I know this is an old post, but it doesn't contain the solution (and more importantly contains incorrect information), so I decided to post to it.

The problem is that NBT does not put out a 'radio on' signal on pin 13, like CCC, and CIC do. The radio on signal is used by cars without NBT to power the amplifier, and diversity antenna. If you are retrofitting NBT, and you prior headunit was putting out a radio on signal on pin 13, you need to send power on pin 13 on the car side. The easiest way is to connect pin 13 on the harness/car side to pin 15. Pin 15 is powered with the ignition, so your amplifier, and diversity antenna will be powered whenever the ignition is on.

Originally Posted by Mashman

I came across this post, when I was looking for something else. I know this is an old post, but it doesn't contain the solution (and more importantly contains incorrect information), so I decided to post to it.

The problem is that NBT does not put out a 'radio on' signal on pin 13, like CCC, and CIC do. The radio on signal is used by cars without NBT to power the amplifier, and diversity antenna. If you are retrofitting NBT, and you prior headunit was putting out a radio on signal on pin 13, you need to send power on pin 13 on the car side. The easiest way is to connect pin 13 on the harness/car side to pin 15. Pin 15 is powered with the ignition, so your amplifier, and diversity antenna will be powered whenever the ignition is on.

Sent a pm as although this probable obvious...

Should I splice the 13 and 15 cables on the car side?!

[beanbaguk]

Originally Posted by peikko

Sent a pm as although this probable obvious...

Should I splice the 13 and 15 cables on the car side?!

I'm glad this came up again. I have the same problem but have been too lazy to deal with it.

If anyone can provide a proper guide to resolving the problem along with photos, that would be great!

[peikko]

Originally Posted by beanbaguk

I'm glad this came up again. I have the same problem but have been too lazy to deal with it.

If anyone can provide a proper guide to resolving the problem along with photos, that would be great!

Originally Posted by beanbaguk

I'm glad this came up again. I have the same problem but have been too lazy to deal with it.

If anyone can provide a proper guide to resolving the problem along with photos, that would be great!

Mashman kindly answered my query. On the car side of the harness connect 13 into 15.

[peikko]

Originally Posted by beanbaguk

I'm glad this came up again. I have the same problem but have been too lazy to deal with it.

If anyone can provide a proper guide to resolving the problem along with photos, that would be great!

Beanbag.. it is amazingly easy.. I did it last night and it works. I now have traffic information again

I spliced using chocolate block cables 13 and 15 car wiring before the quad lock that you would plug into the head unit ( car - splice - quad lock - emulator - nbt )

On my car it was a black thin cable and a green yellow thick cable.

I actually meant to take pictures but was freaking out due to a botched cut on my ceiling mike!!

[JoseNiño]

Originally Posted by smilo

I also tried to cigarette +ve source, nothing changed
Do I have to supply only pin #13 NBT side ? or also pin #13 Car side ?

Do this it works for me

[JoseNiño]

Originally Posted by smilo

Unfortunatly, it doesn't work..
Maybe my diagram is false, or NBT needs absolutly amplifier (65 20 9 231 174) to get a good signal quality

Hope get your feedback

Do this diagram works perfect for me
Just connect pin 15 en 13 together

[testcodes]

Originally Posted by JoseNiño

Do this diagram works perfect for me
Just connect pin 15 en 13 together

just to confirm, this is before the quadlock on the car side, correct? Or can this be done on pins 15 and 13 on the emulator so it would be reversible?

[JoseNiño]

Originally Posted by testcodes

just to confirm, this is before the quadlock on the car side, correct? Or can this be done on pins 15 and 13 on the emulator so it would be reversible?

I did mine on the emulator side and its still working

[testcodes]

Originally Posted by JoseNiño

I did mine on the emulator side and its still working

that's good to hear. It means if I mess up, I just get another emulator and I can redo. Or if I need to go back to stock, just remove emulator and good to go

[JoseNiño]

Originally Posted by testcodes

that's good to hear. It means if I mess up, I just get another emulator and I can redo. Or if I need to go back to stock, just remove emulator and good to go

Originally Posted by testcodes

that's good to hear. It means if I mess up, I just get another emulator and I can redo. Or if I need to go back to stock, just remove emulator and good to go

You won't mess up it's very easy.

[trdiablo]

Originally Posted by JoseNiño

You won't mess up it's very easy.

Jose, I can't send you PM because of your username. It says your username does not exist. Probable because of the ñ.

But I wanted to ask if you have pictures or video of what you did exactly because I am confused.

If I cut the cable that comes from car and goes to pin 13 and cut the cable that goes to pin 15 and then connect these 2 then it means the cables pin 13 and 15 no longer go to headunit.

Or should I actually cut 15, put a chocolate block in between to let 15 continue to NBT unit. Then cut 13 and squeeze it in the chocolate block of 15?

Do I see which number the cable is on the emulator?

If anyone has pictures or a video I would be so grateful.

[HaugF30]

Originally Posted by thehobbit

As I've already stated in NBT retrofit thread (worth a look), you must detach pin 13 of NBT harness (NBT side) and connect it to a +12V switched source.

Do you have a link to this thread?

[Mashman]

Originally Posted by HaugF30

Do you have a link to this thread?

If you had CIC, the CIC headunit would output 12v on pin 13, which would power the diversity antenna. The NBT headunits no longer output 12v on pin 13, so in order for the antenna to be powered, you must put 12v on pin 13 from somewhere - the lighter is often used. You do not want to send 12v on pin 13 into the NBT headunit, so you cut the line.

So, for pin 13 in the quadlock connector, it should not be connected to anything on the NBT side, and it should be connected to a switched 12v, like the lighter, on the car side. This will power the antenna when the car is on, which will allow you to receive reception of stations.

[HaugF30]

You are correct i think, it worked then i bridged pin13 and 15 and i tried to rewire pin 15 to pin 13 (which didnt work) so what i need to do is to pull pin 13 and isolate it, so that it's not connected to the unit.