[Mr Whippy]

Can anyone confirm that the 335Xd LCI has a front jacking point, and it looks like this?



https://thumbsnap.com/Tvv3o7g1


Obviously lots of videos/info swirling on the internet, but the in-car "manual" doesn't show any front/rear jacking points, only the side blocks.

Also I can't seem to find any proper technical manual showing a front jacking point that looks like what I have.


For future reference, does anyone know if there is a proper full technical manual for specific cars? Ie, will the app on the iPhone "Drivers Guide" just be the same info as per on the iDrive in car?


Thanks for any help!

[Kermit]

Yes that's what I use. Pop some wood in between for good measure

[johnung]

You may find this video helpful.

https://youtu.be/ISHpkxt4cEw?si=FrDzeWTgILK-5FYu

Search to see if Bentley publishes a shop manual on your car.

[danb1979]

Originally Posted by Mr Whippy

Can anyone confirm that the 335Xd LCI has a front jacking point, and it looks like this?



https://thumbsnap.com/Tvv3o7g1


Obviously lots of videos/info swirling on the internet, but the in-car "manual" doesn't show any front/rear jacking points, only the side blocks.

Also I can't seem to find any proper technical manual showing a front jacking point that looks like what I have.


For future reference, does anyone know if there is a proper full technical manual for specific cars? Ie, will the app on the iPhone "Drivers Guide" just be the same info as per on the iDrive in car?


Thanks for any help!

Sure I've confirmed this over on PH that yes, that's the central jack point

As already said; use a block of wood or a rubber jacking puck in between the mount and trolley jack etc...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Slotted-Tro...s%2C102&sr=8-6

Allows you to use the jacking pads either side for axle stand placement then

[Mr Whippy]

Thanks all!

I've got a decent rubber puck to go on the jack lift plate to interface with this point.


Dan, roger that.
I wasn't sure if you'd specifically lifted an F30 335Xd here to know for sure.

I was just looking for more confirmation before I start putting half a ton of weight onto something under my car!




I've watched a ton of videos on YT and have seen diagrams and images but it looks like every model is a bit different.

It's generally 'around here' somewhere, and often punctuated with a small dot of missing material... sometimes behind a cover but sometimes not.

Given it's not noted in the iDrive guide I wasn't so keen on assuming that my car had one (ie, maybe Xdrives don't?)


I'm a bit annoyed BMW don't provide this information to avoid speculation/confusion and possibly costly mistakes!


Thanks

[danb1979]

Originally Posted by Mr Whippy

Thanks all!

I've got a decent rubber puck to go on the jack lift plate to interface with this point.


Dan, roger that.
I wasn't sure if you'd specifically lifted an F30 335Xd here to know for sure.

I was just looking for more confirmation before I start putting half a ton of weight onto something under my car!




I've watched a ton of videos on YT and have seen diagrams and images but it looks like every model is a bit different.

It's generally 'around here' somewhere, and often punctuated with a small dot of missing material... sometimes behind a cover but sometimes not.

Given it's not noted in the iDrive guide I wasn't so keen on assuming that my car had one (ie, maybe Xdrives don't?)


I'm a bit annoyed BMW don't provide this information to avoid speculation/confusion and possibly costly mistakes!


Thanks

Used it quite a few times on my F31 pal; makes life easier when taking wheels off to swap them (winters > summers & vice versa) and because I'm stupid; to take them off to clean them too

I use the rear diff for the same thing; only needs to be lifted a few inches though due to how much higher it is

Did this on my E39s and my F01 too

[Mr Whippy]

Sorry Dan, I wasn't sure if you'd had a 335Xd or not.

Damn BMW for being so stingy with the basic info like jacking points.


I'm going to go have a mild rant when I take my 130i for the recall... anything to stop the letters haha.

[danb1979]

Originally Posted by Mr Whippy

Sorry Dan, I wasn't sure if you'd had a 335Xd or not.

Damn BMW for being so stingy with the basic info like jacking points.


I'm going to go have a mild rant when I take my 130i for the recall... anything to stop the letters haha.

325D M Sport RWD pal; but it's the same spot - all the F31 is missing IMO is the factory fitted jack pad. The E39s had them (thin ones); but there was no faffing then!

[danb1979]

Good post here too with pictures; pic 9 is the front subframe jacking point

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...8#post17636768

[danb1979]

Another good, detailed post here:

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1037834

[Kermit]

Originally Posted by danb1979

Used it quite a few times on my F31 pal; makes life easier when taking wheels off to swap them (winters > summers & vice versa) and because I'm stupid; to take them off to clean them too

I use the rear diff for the same thing; only needs to be lifted a few inches though due to how much higher it is

Did this on my E39s and my F01 too

Nothing wrong with taking them off for cleaning!

[Mr Whippy]

Thanks for those links Dan.

I'd seen the former, and that aligns with those where the lift point is under a cover.

The latter link I'd seen, but the poster says they're not 100% sure if that is a legit jacking point, or just worked...


On balance of propabilities now it's likely fine. But it's frustrating that no one can just point to a definitive diagram/technical document from BMW for the 335Xd and say that this is a safe jacking point.


I'm going to pester BMW next time I'm in for a technical document on jacking points.

Or will ISTA have one?

[Kal101]

Originally Posted by Mr Whippy

Thanks for those links Dan.

I'd seen the former, and that aligns with those where the lift point is under a cover.

The latter link I'd seen, but the poster says they're not 100% sure if that is a legit jacking point, or just worked...


On balance of propabilities now it's likely fine. But it's frustrating that no one can just point to a definitive diagram/technical document from BMW for the 335Xd and say that this is a safe jacking point.


I'm going to pester BMW next time I'm in for a technical document on jacking points.

Or will ISTA have one?

BMW probably don’t want to share that info with owners as they don’t want them DIY and not paying over the odds at the dealers !!

[Sasquartch]

Here's the instructions from ISTA in a PDF

I've assumed a Jan 2015 build date but doubt there'd be much difference

[Allworth]

I was worried to jack my car on the middle front when doing it for the first time. But done this quite a few times, and its all OK. As been suggested make sure you have a rubber on a jack, otherwise there might be some left over marks on a cover. Low profile jack is also a must to get it under the car.

Here is an image with lifting points from Haynes manual:

[danb1979]

Originally Posted by Allworth

I was worried to jack my car on the middle front when doing it for the first time. But done this quite a few times, and its all OK. As been suggested make sure you have a rubber on a jack, otherwise there might be some left over marks on a cover. Low profile jack is also a must to get it under the car.

Here is an image with lifting points from Haynes manual:

As said over on the PH thread; I don't have a low rise jack any more; the sealed failed and I never replaced it

I've a Sealey 3T jack that works perfectly well; I bought these Laster low ramps for my previous E39s as the front subframe jacking point was a) very low and b) too far back for the jack

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Laser-LAS56...08&sr=8-1&th=1

They work superbly and get the car to the perfect height for the front subframe point etc

I use them generally and a rubber puck between the front subframe mount and the rear diff; never had any issues (rears easier as it's already high and you only need to jack it a few inches and the cars up more than high enough to get it sitting on axle stands etc

[Allworth]

Originally Posted by danb1979

As said over on the PH thread; I don't have a low rise jack any more; the sealed failed and I never replaced it

I've a Sealey 3T jack that works perfectly well; I bought these Laster low ramps for my previous E39s as the front subframe jacking point was a) very low and b) too far back for the jack

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Laser-LAS56...08&sr=8-1&th=1

They work superbly and get the car to the perfect height for the front subframe point etc

I use them generally and a rubber puck between the front subframe mount and the rear diff; never had any issues (rears easier as it's already high and you only need to jack it a few inches and the cars up more than high enough to get it sitting on axle stands etc

I see this as a way around, I can understand you got ramps to put your existing jack to a use.
For anyone starting to invest I would recommend a low profile jack, solid axle stands that you can bet your life on, and of course a wheel chocks.
Personally using 'Sealey 2.5T Low Entry Aluminium Jack' , 'Sealey 3T Axle Stands'.

[Mr Whippy]

I think those short ramps Dan suggested are a good idea.

My new low-entry but not especially long-reach jack gets under my 335Xd, just, and manages to lift with the pump arm flat down and moving it up/down just a few inches.

If you have a car on m-sport suspension I can’t imagine many low-entry jacks getting under there, unless they’re a special low-entry long-reach, which are probably a small fortune.


I think some 3” ramps to get onto your front lifting point is far preferable to lifting any other way with jacks and stands.

[danb1979]

Originally Posted by Mr Whippy

I think those short ramps Dan suggested are a good idea.

My new low-entry but not especially long-reach jack gets under my 335Xd, just, and manages to lift with the pump arm flat down and moving it up/down just a few inches.

If you have a car on m-sport suspension I can’t imagine many low-entry jacks getting under there, unless they’re a special low-entry long-reach, which are probably a small fortune.


I think some 3” ramps to get onto your front lifting point is far preferable to lifting any other way with jacks and stands.

Exactly why I've got them. My long reach low jack could only just get a bite on my E39w front subframe jacking point. It was set far back and with how the undertray sat, it'd get wedged on that too.

The low ramps are solid and don't flex/move at all. So once the cars up on them, the front subframe jacking point is much easier to get to and less faff

[Allworth]

225/50 R17 , fits good enough, first few swings are restricted but then it lifts very well

[TurboWeasel]

FWIW, the Halfords Advanced 2 ton jack (Black and silver) just about slides under the front bumper of an M Sport F30. F31s are slightly higher at the front, and stock 35Ds are higher still.....so it covers the worst case scenario.

Pretty cheap at £130, although I got it for £100 on one of their frequent promotion deals.

What I like about it is it's super smooth and quick action, and the polyurethane wheels, so you don't get that god awful racket when dragging it along your drive

Agreed on the undertray covering the jacking point, just that weenie little hole being the alignment clue.....which obviously you can't gauge the position so well from the front of the car vs a prefixed plastic block to hook into.

[Allworth]

Originally Posted by TurboWeasel

FWIW, the Halfords Advanced 2 ton jack (Black and silver) just about slides under the front bumper of an M Sport F30. F31s are slightly higher at the front, and stock 35Ds are higher still.....so it covers the worst case scenario.

Pretty cheap at £130, although I got it for £100 on one of their frequent promotion deals.

What I like about it is it's super smooth and quick action, and the polyurethane wheels, so you don't get that god awful racket when dragging it along your drive

Agreed on the undertray covering the jacking point, just that weenie little hole being the alignment clue.....which obviously you can't gauge the position so well from the front of the car vs a prefixed plastic block to hook into.

My jack has a double piston which gives it a double smoothness in a rocket lift and a good hold of pressure, in fact I once left it engaged under the car and it did a great job standing still, like atlas statue that is holding a balcony - really trustworthy. Rear castors wheels are squeaky from factory, aluminium design makes it slightly lighter to drag around, it still gives a back pain by just looking at it.
SGS Engineering is one of the local companies that makes jacks, they are based in Derby unfortunately jack I needed was out of stock so I ended up with Sealey.