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Also as discussed, it seems like your tune is sacrificing degrees of timing to get that boost level, whereas my tuner seems to be prioritizing timing over boost. Either way, I'm trusting the process and willing to take baby steps to get there. I'm only 7 revs in which is not crazy compared to what I've seen from others so far.
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I see I messed up my previous comment - I'd expect your boost to be *higher* than mine.
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They sent me another revision today to try. Kinda wondering about it since their Facebook page shows an m140ix on the OTS e30 stage 2+ tune with Supra pump and upgraded plugs hitting a 2.87s 0-60 and dyno of 522 hp
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A bigger turbo at the same psi will be moving more air. |
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With reduced weight in your car, minimal fuel and remove all loose items etc, good tires, grippy surface and a 1.6 second 60ft time the OTS map should get close to 3.0 second 0 - 60 MPH with M240iX
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I would say that extra stuff in trunk adds about 30-35 pounds..plus I'm on runflats. When I get some different wheels, I'll throw the Michelin PS4's on. I wonder if a Dyno 0-60 as is would produce more accurate results right now, since it isnt based on GPS. |
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Got my rev 1.8 tonight.
Tuner comments were: "Yeah looking good. Increased boost target and adjusted compressor base a bit at the spot that it's over boost target." I'll let the ECU adapt tomorrow and probably log and upload on Sunday.
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Tried almost all fuel brands available in The Netherlands. I found a gasstation with the cheapest name ever ''tanqyou'' which sells 100+ fuel. After new plugs the car had still some minor timing pulls but better then before with this fuel. Very expensive though on 1,80 euro/liter instead of regular fuel which goes for 1,40 euro/liter. Also Q8 or Total Excellium 98 fuel seems to do good jobs. A well known tuner from Belgium recommended this fuels, instead of using Shell, BP, etc. which are less quality he told me. I haven't read much about adding octane booster yet, maybe that would be helpfull? (actually I have no idea) |
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07-11-2020, 06:44 AM | #1221 |
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My experience so far with the B58 if you're not at atleast 12 degrees timing at 6500 RPM it will start losing power.
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07-11-2020, 09:40 AM | #1222 | |
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In the very basic terms: set up safe timing and safe AFRs, increase torque/load to get boost corresponding close to the edge of the compressor efficiency, then start to add timing advance by 1° until MBT or knock and back off by 2° for safety. Repeat the process with AFRs: lean out until MBT, knock or high EGT, then richen up by 0.4AFR.
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Thanks for the detailed information.
I am running low octane and actually my car is faster on 16 psi than 18 psi. Quote:
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I'll give Q8 a shot, which is the only available option in Madrid. Even then, it's pretty far from where I live and not on the way to work so I'd have to go there specifically to fill up every time, which is really inconvenient... I'll swap out the plugs on monday, and I'll look into octane boosters as well... |
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Make sure the gastank is nearly empty, mixing fuels won't get the desired results. I don't know if octane boosters are any good for our engines... Maybe someone can give advice about what to do? |
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According to mission performance that's what's recommended for a normal stage 1 tune. .022 and under for stage 2 and beyond. Yep I always let the tank run down to well below a quarter before refilling. I'm gonna go out later tonight and do a few pulls on the different maps to see if anything's different. Should be about 24º ambient temperature at 3AM, which is not optimal for taking logs but damnit, I live in Spain, if the car isn't going to run properly with 24º ambient i'm well screwed for about 8 months out of the whole year. |
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Ive tried octane boosters 0 effect...Will see now whats goin on with E
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07-11-2020, 06:07 PM | #1228 |
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No bro your boost should definitelly be higher then mine on E!I know bigger turbo on same boost flow more ,but again i saw what kind of numbers guys on whatsapp group have on pure800 ,dont make excuses and press your tuner to make a proper tune for your car!
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I'm not going to tell my tuner what to do lol.
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First time tuning so don’t have a clue what I am looking for but any help will be appreciated. Just loaded in bm3 stage 1 93 map - first log below https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5f0b...0b4306763c0d0d Thanks again Stu |
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Boost and AFRs look good, the values are perfectly in line with what you'd expect from that map. Boost is reaching the target and isn't spiking, and there don't seem to be any throttle closures. Timing is a hot mess, pointing to crappy gas, buy many if not most of us running standard 93oct pump gas have that problem. We're leaving a LOT of power on the table and the engine wont pull as smoothly as it should because the ECU is constantly pulling and adjusting timing to prevent knock. You can see this because a: The 6 lines for timing (one per cyl) are all squiggly and separated from each other. In a perfect log they would rise smoothly from very little advance at low revs to about 12º up top in that map I believe, and they would overlap perfectly so you would only see a single line. You can try flashing the 91 map and running 93 oct gas and see if there is an improvement. There probably will be, but considering how badly your timing is getting pulled in those logs, I wouldn't expect perfect results either. Also, It'd be helpful if you could add timing corrections and all other parameters outlined in the first post. EDIT: It's also interesting to keep an eye on the IATs. Yours seem to be around 100f which is warmish... What was the ambient temperature like when the logs were taken? |
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