[xDHC]

thats just lol, also i accidentally got into this menu on my andream unit once too, i think it was at the point where my phone made a BT connection but AA was not active yet and someone called me.

[cossie1]

Originally Posted by AnonymousUser

With the latest BimmerTech update v2.0.2.4.mmi.b and MCU: 10.2.18.15 they changed the way the bluetooth calls works in CarPlay :-(

Previously in iOS CarPlay you could call from within the iOS interface, but now with the new version, when answering or making a call you are redirected out of carplay to the MMi firmware where you get hangup buttons etc.

The thing is, the UI looks terrible outside of the iOS ecosystem and for some reason the phonebook isn't transfered so you can't see who is calling, unless you remember the callers phone number in your head!

I mean...! What the actual F***?? Why??

There is a later bimmertech update for April posted 2.0.2.5t2.mmi.b and mcu 10.3.24.15 (iirc the number correctly) the link was posted about 10 pages back

EDIT: the link doesn't seem to work anymore.

[cossie1]

So I had a reply from Andream seller on Aliexpress.

Who told me that 2.0.2.7 is the latest they have, but they are working on an update and will let me know "if" it's available.

So I said well it's bloody annoying that the Andream software is from January and Carlinkit and Bimmertech have had updates in Feb, March and April so far.

So maybe they could make the Andream software open source in future.

The reply was "maybe we will try".

[nitsuj17]

Originally Posted by cossie1

So I had a reply from Andream seller on Aliexpress.

Who told me that 2.0.2.7 is the latest they have, but they are working on an update and will let me know "if" it's available.

So I said well it's bloody annoying that the Andream software is from January and Carlinkit and Bimmertech have had updates in Feb, March and April so far.

So maybe they could make the Andream software open source in future.

The reply was "maybe we will try".

ideally sunplus would make their platform source available, but the chances they or any of the vendors actually post source is somewhere between 0 and 0.00001 %

[cossie1]

Originally Posted by nitsuj17

ideally sunplus would make their platform source available, but the chances they or any of the vendors actually post source is somewhere between 0 and 0.00001 %

Yes I think it's unlikely, but no harm in asking and giving them an option if they can't be bothered to do updates faster themselves.

I don't think the software is supplied by Sunplus, I think they only give the sdk to the manufacturer of the units, and then that is passed to the suppliers to work with.

At first it seemed all the software was being written and updated by the same person (or team) but it seems now that isn't happening.

[nitsuj17]

Originally Posted by cossie1

Yes I think it's unlikely, but no harm in asking and giving them an option if they can't be bothered to do updates faster themselves.

I don't think the software is supplied by Sunplus, I think they only give the sdk to the manufacturer of the units, and then that is passed to the suppliers to work with.

At first it seemed all the software was being written and updated by the same person (or team) but it seems now that isn't happening.

makes sense.

are there any known chinese bmw forums? back in the heyday of android hacking a lot of leaks/appropriated firmware would make their way there way to the chinese forums and some of the chinese phone oem staff would post unofficial builds or leak other stuff

granted that android root community was 100,000x times the size of this mmi community but still

[cossie1]

I am not aware of any, but that's not to say there isn't one.

[Firefly1337]

Technically they open sourced their whole framework already: https://sunplus-tibbo.atlassian.net/...s/doc/overview

It's for the board/SoC SP7021. They gave me access to their git last December and in it there are scripts to build other embedded environments (e.g. yocto) for the platform. This build process results in our famous ISPBOOOT.BIN file.

They sell the software of our MMI as SPHE8388 and that of course is closed source (I even asked them about it).

Someone with knowledge of embedded/IoT stuff could probably build a custom image as the device just generically boots from whatever is on its flash storage.

[623baller]

Originally Posted by cossie1

So I had a reply from Andream seller on Aliexpress.

Who told me that 2.0.2.7 is the latest they have, but they are working on an update and will let me know "if" it's available.

So I said well it's bloody annoying that the Andream software is from January and Carlinkit and Bimmertech have had updates in Feb, March and April so far.

So maybe they could make the Andream software open source in future.

The reply was "maybe we will try".

so it's almost better to go with carlinkit even if the price is slightly higher since they seem to be more diligent with their update and have better user interface at MMI screen?

[cossie1]

Originally Posted by 623baller

so it's almost better to go with carlinkit even if the price is slightly higher since they seem to be more diligent with their update and have better user interface at MMI screen?

I don't know, wouldn't like to say yes.

At this time, Carlinkint does seem more on the ball with updates and imo the user interface (settings screens etc) does look a little nicer.

However, in the past Carlinkit have just suddenly stopped supporting devices (there wired carplay unit), and told customers they must buy the new unit if they want support.

I believe bimmertech did the same, so maybe Carlinkit are supplying bimmertech there software (who knows, I am just guessing, but would make sense as both implemented "security measures" at the same time).

Andream is a bit of an unknown as I don't think they have done a wired version previously, so they may well come good and start giving us more updates in the future.

[TheUltimateDrivingManiac]

Originally Posted by AnonymousUser

With the latest BimmerTech update v2.0.2.4.mmi.b and MCU: 10.2.18.15 they changed the way the bluetooth calls works in CarPlay :-(

Previously in iOS CarPlay you could call from within the iOS interface, but now with the new version, when answering or making a call you are redirected out of carplay to the MMi firmware where you get hangup buttons etc.

The thing is, the UI looks terrible outside of the iOS ecosystem and for some reason the phonebook isn't transfered so you can't see who is calling, unless you remember the callers phone number in your head!

I mean...! What the actual F***?? Why??

I have this shit on my Carlinkit with the latest software.

[muniz_ri]

Originally Posted by 623baller

so it's almost better to go with carlinkit even if the price is slightly higher since they seem to be more diligent with their update and have better user interface at MMI screen?

Besides a few "like to have" features, most of the bugs have now been resolved for all of these units and both provide a great experience overall. And currently the functionality and frustrations are the same for both regardless of updates.

Keeping in mind that we will likely not keep our cars forever, it probably makes sense to go for the best price, i.e. Andream, imo. You won't be missing out on anything.

[muniz_ri]

Originally Posted by AnonymousUser

With the latest BimmerTech update v2.0.2.4.mmi.b and MCU: 10.2.18.15 they changed the way the bluetooth calls works in CarPlay :-(

Previously in iOS CarPlay you could call from within the iOS interface, but now with the new version, when answering or making a call you are redirected out of carplay to the MMi firmware where you get hangup buttons etc.

The thing is, the UI looks terrible outside of the iOS ecosystem and for some reason the phonebook isn't transfered so you can't see who is calling, unless you remember the callers phone number in your head!

I mean...! What the actual F***?? Why??

You may want to contact Bimmertech and see if they will change it back. They seem to be willing to go the extra mile for their customers lately.

btw, the latest Bimmertech software that I have seen is v2.0.2.5t.2, mcu 10.3.24.15.

[Len_Beach]

Originally Posted by muniz_ri

Besides a few "like to have" features, most of the bugs have now been resolved for all of these units and both provide a great experience overall. And currently the functionality and frustrations are the same for both regardless of updates.

Keeping in mind that we will likely not keep our cars forever, it probably makes sense to go for the best price, i.e. Andream, imo. You won't be missing out on anything.

I'd agree with this. I've only had mine installed for a few days but it appears to be running flawlessly and it doesn't seem to be worth risk of updating.

[cossie1]

Originally Posted by muniz_ri

Besides a few "like to have" features, most of the bugs have now been resolved for all of these units and both provide a great experience overall. And currently the functionality and frustrations are the same for both regardless of updates.

Agreed most bugs have been ironed out (but not all).

But if you follow that reasoning, then there is no point doing a software update on your phone, or updating an app on your phone, as most of the bugs will have already been ironed out on those too.

[xDHC]

Carlinkit indeed stopped supporting wired devices. My wired only version had horrible lags, bugs, resolution was crap and their solution was: "buy our new wireless version, much better".

So personally i'd stay away from them.

[maDjzo]

I managed to install my MMI from wakaa.us yesterday on my F15, super easy install, biggest pia was fitting everything behind the HU. Thanks to everyone here, lots of good info/input cleared a lot of things up. Looks like my unit is running the latest SW, pin # 4091 does enable me to access the SW update screen.

- Bummer that there is no volume bar indicating level
- The steering wheel voice button does not trigger Siri/G assistant after holding it down, (clicking once launches ID4 voice assistant), then only way for me to trigger it is either saying "hey siri", or clicking and holding down the iDrive knob. (I found to be strange considering I haven't really found any more info regarding this)
- Haven't tried mirroring yet, however both AA and CarPlay work very well for the most part, stretched res present in AA. OEM mic works with no echo out the box, OEM camera/360 and pdc works great, in and out of the MMI automatically for the most part. Wireless CarPlay sometimes doesn't connect to my iPhone, find I have to manually connect via phone and its instant.
- I don't know if its my expectations, but I find scrolling and navigating the UI to be a bit laggy, every 4th or 5th rotational click of the iDrive I find that the next click takes a second after a lag. Not a deal breaker but something I noticed immediately after firing it up.

SW out the box:

[cossie1]

Originally Posted by maDjzo

I managed to install my MMI from wakaa.us yesterday on my F15, super easy install, biggest pia was fitting everything behind the HU. Thanks to everyone here, lots of good info/input cleared a lot of things up. Looks like my unit is running the latest SW, pin # 4091 does enable me to access the SW update screen.

- Bummer that there is no volume bar indicating level
- The steering wheel voice button does not trigger Siri/G assistant after holding it down, (clicking once launches ID4 voice assistant), then only way for me to trigger it is either saying "hey siri", or clicking and holding down the iDrive knob. (I found to be strange considering I haven't really found any more info regarding this)
- Haven't tried mirroring yet, however both AA and CarPlay work very well for the most part, stretched res present in AA. OEM mic works with no echo out the box, OEM camera/360 and pdc works great, in and out of the MMI automatically for the most part. Wireless CarPlay sometimes doesn't connect to my iPhone, find I have to manually connect via phone and its instant.
- I don't know if its my expectations, but I find scrolling and navigating the UI to be a bit laggy, every 4th or 5th rotational click of the iDrive I find that the next click takes a second after a lag. Not a deal breaker but something I noticed immediately after firing it up.

SW out the box:

Another new MCU update then.

[maDjzo]

Originally Posted by cossie1

Nothing new MCU update then.

[cossie1]

Originally Posted by maDjzo

I don't know how "another" got changed to "nothing" with predictive text lol

[cossie1]

Also I thought Wakaa were selling Andream units

[07e92]

maDjzo 's unit from Wakaa.us looks more like a Carlinkit unit, otherwise, it would not have the latest SW 9.2.2.yl.b which is Carlinkit SW naming convention and now requires 4 PINs to perfrom upgrade/downgrade where 9.2.2.yl.b is not compatible with Andream unit. (cossie1 you know this better than anyone else )

And interestingly, it has another different version of MCU 20.4.2.14, in comparing to mine at 20.1.4.11, and TheUltimateDrivingManiac 's at 20.3.24.15, but the Carlinkit support I have contacted stated that my MUC is the latest MCU

Originally Posted by maDjzo

I managed to install my MMI from wakaa.us yesterday on my F15, super easy install, biggest pia was fitting everything behind the HU. Thanks to everyone here, lots of good info/input cleared a lot of things up. Looks like my unit is running the latest SW, pin # 4091 does enable me to access the SW update screen.

Originally Posted by cossie1

Also I thought Wakaa were selling Andream units