G20 Almost Revealed...and press drive reviews this weekend

....,,,,..,,.. · 08-03-2018, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

The 48v system doesn't replace the 12v system, it is in addition to it:

Yep, it's industry trying to standardise it.

Pretty much all mainline manufacturers are using 48v

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...trical-systems

matt_320d · 08-03-2018, 01:35 PM

So this is why I just went for a 3 year PCP on a 640d ...I figure by the time I get out my current deal we should be in the sweet spot of the G20 era

I don't get why everyone hates X-drive so much. I adored X-drive on my 330d. It was almost comical how good the traction was. Almost any conditions, any situation, with the traction control on, you bury your right foot to the floor and it just all stayed completely planted and shot forward like a startled cat. unbelievable.

By contrast, I've scared myself twice in my rear wheel drive 640d in less than 2 weeks of ownership, and I'm terrified of snow this winter.

Fairly convinced most people who hate X-drive have not driven it. It's also great fun at the lights knowing that you can absolutely obliterate ANYTHING off the line.

You can by the way - even rear wheel drive cars with better claimed 0-60 times are actually very hard to get perfect starts from, but the X-drive will give you perfection every single time.

Most useful was when pulling out of a side road onto a fast main road, where the side road has a loose gravelly surface. That can be a bit scary if you go for a gap and suddenly get loads more wheel spin than you expect - never happens in an X-drive..just finds the traction and away you go.

Andrewthefirst · 08-03-2018, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by matt_320d

So this is why I just went for a 3 year PCP on a 640d ...I figure by the time I get out my current deal we should be in the sweet spot of the G20 era

Me too.

I’m setting myself up for the G20 sweet spot, or maybe even the next M140i/130i sweet spot.

Can wait to see the real details on the next 3 and the next 1.

teaston · 08-03-2018, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JustChris

It's getting to that time...! Grab any F3X deals while you can..then it's see us all over at the G20 boards....once there is a uk section...and I probably still won't have a 3 series...but bants yo

End of an era!

But start of a new one!

teaston · 08-03-2018, 02:03 PM

Just posted by Jason in the G20 thread:

Updated as of August 3, 2018

Ahead of this Sunday's press embargoed G20 3 Series preproduction drive reviews, here are the first official camouflaged G20 photos released by BMW. The official G20 3 Series reveal will come next month.

JustChris · 08-03-2018, 02:07 PM

Yes, that rear 3/4 is pretty promising. That looks fantastic, most likely it's the 340i from the wheels/tyres combo.

Anyone else see the bobbles in the rear lights, part of the camo I assume?

You can also see it's got thto vertical air exit vents on the rear bumper a bit like th e M2 where the reflectors are.

teaston · 08-03-2018, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JustChris

Yes, that rear 3/4 is pretty promising. That looks fantastic, most likely it's the 340i from the wheels/tyres combo.

Anyone else see the bobbles in the rear lights, part of the camo I assume?

It’s 330i M Sport apparently.

JustChris · 08-03-2018, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

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Originally Posted by JustChris

Yes, that rear 3/4 is pretty promising. That looks fantastic, most likely it's the 340i from the wheels/tyres combo.

Anyone else see the bobbles in the rear lights, part of the camo I assume?

It’s 330i M Sport apparently.

Christ, looks meaty for a mid leveller.

RIKO_440i · 08-03-2018, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JD6

M340i: all markets, B58, 385hp, automatic RWD (US only) and xDrive, delayed intro.

385hp sounds impressive

That’s the same as now I have 385hp with mppsk so not a surprise at all

teaston · 08-03-2018, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RIKO_440i

That’s the same as now I have 385hp with mppsk so not a surprise at all

I thought 340i/440i MPPSK gives 360hp!?

chris-c · 08-03-2018, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

I thought 340i/440i MPPSK gives 360hp!?

On my mate Dave's rollers mine showed 400.

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Runs and hides.

teaston · 08-03-2018, 02:32 PM

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On my mate Dave's rollers mine showed 400.

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Runs and hides.

But that’s just down to variables with the machine/testing/car, the official figures are 360hp so that’s what we need to compare to.

If BMW says the M340i is 385hp then maybe it will show over 400 on Daves rollers!

225 · 08-03-2018, 02:44 PM

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I'm sure we will find out soon enough but alot of sites still quoting 360bhp for m340 which is too low in this day and age.

Anyway touring looks good and just under 2 years should be a good time to nab an m340 touring, having been out for a bit and normal 20% discounts should have kicked in.

2 years left on my PCP... amazing coincidence.

Race ya!
If it's as good as I hope it will be the would be happy to chop in the lease early as well.

chris-c · 08-03-2018, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

But that’s just down to variables with the machine/testing/car, the official figures are 360hp so that’s what we need to compare to.

If BMW says the M340i is 385hp then maybe it will show over 400 on Daves rollers!

My guess is the M340i is more powerful than the 340i with MPPSK.
It makes sense.

Remaps are showing the 340i to do 400+ quite easily so it makes sense for BMW to sell it as a step up.

Also 385bhp is nothing in a barge when you see the A45AMG or the S3 with their power.

teaston · 08-03-2018, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chris-c

My guess is the M340i is more powerful than the 340i with MPPSK.
It makes sense.

Remaps are showing the 340i to do 400+ quite easily so it makes sense for BMW to sell it as a step up.

Also 385bhp is nothing in a barge when you see the A45AMG or the S3 with their power.

S3 is only 310hp

chris-c · 08-03-2018, 03:10 PM

I meant the RS3 but hey ho.

teaston · 08-03-2018, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chris-c

I meant the RS3 but hey ho.

RS3 is more akin to a full M car than an M Performance though isn’t it?

JustChris · 08-03-2018, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chris-c

I meant the RS3 but hey ho.

RS3 is more akin to a full M car than an M Performance though isn’t it?

Indeed it's S vs M Performance and M vs R.S. but what I think he was saying is some of the hyper batches are pushing 400BP themselves so in a mid/large saloon 385 isn't mind blowing....although we'd all struggle to hit 385 each day in actual use.

teaston · 08-03-2018, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JustChris

Indeed it's S vs M Performance and M vs R.S. but what I think he was saying is some of the hyper batches are pushing 400BP themselves so in a mid/large saloon 385 isn't mind blowing....although we'd all struggle to hit 385 each day in actual use.

It is incredible how peoples expectations just keep growing so quickly, it was only 5 minutes ago that the E46 M3 was the daddy, and it ‘only’ had 343bhp!

JustChris · 08-03-2018, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

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Originally Posted by JustChris

Indeed it's S vs M Performance and M vs R.S. but what I think he was saying is some of the hyper batches are pushing 400BP themselves so in a mid/large saloon 385 isn't mind blowing....although we'd all struggle to hit 385 each day in actual use.

It is incredible how peoples expectations just keep growing so quickly, it was only 5 minutes ago that the E46 M3 was the daddy, and it 'only' had 343bhp!

Current 'base' aka non CP M3 family saloon has 0.1 gap to a Ferrari F40. Bedroom posters from the 80s

Time moves on. Some battery shite will tear the F40 a new one these days (and then need to stop for 3/4hr to charge).

teaston · 08-03-2018, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JustChris

Current 'base' aka non CP M3 family saloon has 0.1 gap to a Ferrari F40. Bedroom posters from the 80s

Time moves on. Some battery shite will tear the F40 a new one these days (and then need to stop for 3/4hr to charge).

I’ve timed my car 0.1 secs faster to 60 than an F40!

(and that was with my old single channel tuning box)

RIKO_440i · 08-03-2018, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

I thought 340i/440i MPPSK gives 360hp!?

Got mine on the dyno and on the same day another 2 440i mppsk
All reached 383 to 385 bhp

08-03-2018, 01:35 PM	#24
matt_320d Captain 101 Rep 618 Posts Drives: 2018 640d GC M-Sport Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Kent iTrader: (0)	So this is why I just went for a 3 year PCP on a 640d ...I figure by the time I get out my current deal we should be in the sweet spot of the G20 era I don't get why everyone hates X-drive so much. I adored X-drive on my 330d. It was almost comical how good the traction was. Almost any conditions, any situation, with the traction control on, you bury your right foot to the floor and it just all stayed completely planted and shot forward like a startled cat. unbelievable. By contrast, I've scared myself twice in my rear wheel drive 640d in less than 2 weeks of ownership, and I'm terrified of snow this winter. Fairly convinced most people who hate X-drive have not driven it. It's also great fun at the lights knowing that you can absolutely obliterate ANYTHING off the line. You can by the way - even rear wheel drive cars with better claimed 0-60 times are actually very hard to get perfect starts from, but the X-drive will give you perfection every single time. Most useful was when pulling out of a side road onto a fast main road, where the side road has a loose gravelly surface. That can be a bit scary if you go for a gap and suddenly get loads more wheel spin than you expect - never happens in an X-drive..just finds the traction and away you go.
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