ZF gearbox service

F15CCT · 01-27-2018, 07:00 AM

Will the i drive indicate when the gearbox needs a service?

NotGotABimmer23 · 01-27-2018, 07:39 AM

No

F15CCT · 01-27-2018, 07:45 AM

Bugger thought so, best start looking for a specialist to do a service.

soulboy · 01-27-2018, 08:02 AM

zf advise a service every 7 years at the zf centres

F15CCT · 01-27-2018, 08:14 AM

I thought it was millage as well? Cars only 4 years old but at 68k

Watsey · 01-27-2018, 08:16 AM

ZF recommends a fluid change at 62K miles. I elected to have mine done at ~50K.

F15CCT · 01-27-2018, 08:18 AM

Ok thanks, will look to find my local ZF specialist.

Liquidfox · 01-27-2018, 10:12 AM

Beware that if you have the BMW Insured warranty all future claims on the box will be refused

Watsey · 01-27-2018, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquidfox

Beware that if you have the BMW Insured warranty all future claims on the box will be refused

Refused on what grounds ? Using an independent specialist, or for BMW carrying out a fluid change ?

soulboy · 01-27-2018, 01:24 PM

no bmw centre do gearbox fluid change need very specialised tech,they farm them out to local specialists as do merc in south yorkshire

Liquidfox · 01-27-2018, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Refused on what grounds ? Using an independent specialist, or for BMW carrying out a fluid change ?

BMW quote that the box is sealed for life, anyone tampering with it therefore voids the warranty. Or so I've heard....

Watsey · 01-27-2018, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquidfox

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Refused on what grounds ? Using an independent specialist, or for BMW carrying out a fluid change ?

BMW quote that the box is sealed for life, anyone tampering with it therefore voids the warranty. Or so I've heard....

You heard wrong. Sealed for life is marketing BS. ZF itself recommends that the fluid be changed (from memory) every 62K miles.

Mine was done by BMW and videoed to prove it. The process is very simple : drain fluid; refill with new; drive the car ensuring all the ratios in the gearbox are used (this flushes the torque converter); drain fluid; refill.

No impact on warranty.

Soul_Glo · 01-28-2018, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquidfox

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Refused on what grounds ? Using an independent specialist, or for BMW carrying out a fluid change ?

BMW quote that the box is sealed for life, anyone tampering with it therefore voids the warranty. Or so I've heard....

You heard wrong. Sealed for life is marketing BS. ZF itself recommends that the fluid be changed (from memory) every 62K miles.

Mine was done by BMW and videoed to prove it. The process is very simple : drain fluid; refill with new; drive the car ensuring all the ratios in the gearbox are used (this flushes the torque converter); drain fluid; refill.

No impact on warranty.

Got a dealership name my friend?

Tengocity · 01-28-2018, 03:10 AM

I've also had mine done by a BMW dealership, so if they refused a warranty claim then that would be an interesting conversation or two.

teaston · 01-28-2018, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tengocity

I've also had mine done by a BMW dealership, so if they refused a warranty claim then that would be an interesting conversation or two.

How come they did it? And how much did they charge?

Tengocity · 01-28-2018, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teaston

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tengocity

I've also had mine done by a BMW dealership, so if they refused a warranty claim then that would be an interesting conversation or two.

How come they did it? And how much did they charge?

I didn't pay for it. It was done under warranty as had a leaking seal replaced. Not sure it would have been standard practice, but I had a good relationship with that dealership.

Watsey · 01-28-2018, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 37psi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquidfox

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Refused on what grounds ? Using an independent specialist, or for BMW carrying out a fluid change ?

BMW quote that the box is sealed for life, anyone tampering with it therefore voids the warranty. Or so I've heard....

You heard wrong. Sealed for life is marketing BS. ZF itself recommends that the fluid be changed (from memory) every 62K miles.

Mine was done by BMW and videoed to prove it. The process is very simple : drain fluid; refill with new; drive the car ensuring all the ratios in the gearbox are used (this flushes the torque converter); drain fluid; refill.

No impact on warranty.

Got a dealership name my friend?

Barons Stanstead.

I've found it to be a very good dealership.

Soul_Glo · 01-28-2018, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Quote:

Originally Posted by 37psi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquidfox

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Refused on what grounds ? Using an independent specialist, or for BMW carrying out a fluid change ?

BMW quote that the box is sealed for life, anyone tampering with it therefore voids the warranty. Or so I've heard....

You heard wrong. Sealed for life is marketing BS. ZF itself recommends that the fluid be changed (from memory) every 62K miles.

Mine was done by BMW and videoed to prove it. The process is very simple : drain fluid; refill with new; drive the car ensuring all the ratios in the gearbox are used (this flushes the torque converter); drain fluid; refill.

No impact on warranty.

Got a dealership name my friend?

Barons Stanstead.

I've found it to be a very good dealership.

What was the cost? How long did they take?

Thanks

Watsey · 01-28-2018, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 37psi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Quote:

Originally Posted by 37psi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquidfox

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Refused on what grounds ? Using an independent specialist, or for BMW carrying out a fluid change ?

BMW quote that the box is sealed for life, anyone tampering with it therefore voids the warranty. Or so I've heard....

You heard wrong. Sealed for life is marketing BS. ZF itself recommends that the fluid be changed (from memory) every 62K miles.

Mine was done by BMW and videoed to prove it. The process is very simple : drain fluid; refill with new; drive the car ensuring all the ratios in the gearbox are used (this flushes the torque converter); drain fluid; refill.

No impact on warranty.

Got a dealership name my friend?

Barons Stanstead.

I've found it to be a very good dealership.

What was the cost? How long did they take?

Thanks

A couple of hours I think. ~£600. Transmission fluid is expensive, and 2 x drain/fill drives the cost.

Some transmissions need the sump pan to be replaced as it has integral filter.

Soul_Glo · 01-28-2018, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Quote:

Originally Posted by 37psi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Quote:

Originally Posted by 37psi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquidfox

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watsey

Refused on what grounds ? Using an independent specialist, or for BMW carrying out a fluid change ?

BMW quote that the box is sealed for life, anyone tampering with it therefore voids the warranty. Or so I've heard....

You heard wrong. Sealed for life is marketing BS. ZF itself recommends that the fluid be changed (from memory) every 62K miles.

Mine was done by BMW and videoed to prove it. The process is very simple : drain fluid; refill with new; drive the car ensuring all the ratios in the gearbox are used (this flushes the torque converter); drain fluid; refill.

No impact on warranty.

Got a dealership name my friend?

Barons Stanstead.

I've found it to be a very good dealership.

What was the cost? How long did they take?

Thanks

A couple of hours I think. ~£600. Transmission fluid is expensive, and 2 x drain/fill drives the cost.

Some transmissions need the sump pan to be replaced as it has integral filter.

That's not bad. I had it done for 420 in 3 hours last year. I supplied the oil though.

Daftasabrush · 01-28-2018, 01:26 PM

Dear Daftasabrush,
your request has been received by ZF Services UK Ltd..

Your question to us:
Hi there, I note the 8P70H transmission has an oil service interval of 60K KM, please can you tell me the oil service interval for the 8HP50? Many thanks, Daft

We will get in touch with you as soon as possible.

Three days later:

Dear Daftasabrush,

the following solution has been found for your request:

Hello Daft,

The service interval is the same

LarsF · 01-28-2018, 05:00 PM

My 8 speed ZF gearbox had gear oil, pan, seals and filter changed 2 weeks ago. Car was 1 day at my local BMW indie garage. Handy that they are ZF trained and certified to do this kind of work.
Gearbox was working well and smooth before with 66k trouble free miles the clock, but does seem to be 5-10% smoother now - same kind of feeling you get after an engine oil change.
Paid £750 + VAT. So a little expensive for this preventive maintenance, but was told a new gear box would be approximately £5K.

01-27-2018, 07:00 AM	#1
F15CCT Captain 84 Rep 611 Posts Drives: F31 335d Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: North London iTrader: (0)	ZF gearbox service Will the i drive indicate when the gearbox needs a service?
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

01-27-2018, 07:39 AM	#2
NotGotABimmer23 Colonel 832 Rep 2,111 Posts Drives: 340i touring - incoming Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Leicestershire UK iTrader: (0)	No
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-27-2018, 07:45 AM	#3
F15CCT Captain 84 Rep 611 Posts Drives: F31 335d Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: North London iTrader: (0)	Bugger thought so, best start looking for a specialist to do a service.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-27-2018, 08:02 AM	#4
soulboy Private 19 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 420i msport x drive auto Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: tickhill iTrader: (0)	zf advise a service every 7 years at the zf centres
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-27-2018, 08:14 AM	#5
F15CCT Captain 84 Rep 611 Posts Drives: F31 335d Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: North London iTrader: (0)	I thought it was millage as well? Cars only 4 years old but at 68k
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-27-2018, 08:16 AM	#6
Watsey Major General 6404 Rep 8,492 Posts Drives: F31 330D sDrive M Sport Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: On sabbatical. iTrader: (1)	ZF recommends a fluid change at 62K miles. I elected to have mine done at ~50K. __________________ Current : F31 330sD, remapped, Ohlins Road & Track, Millway camber plates, Quaife LSD, Stoptech brakes + Pagid RSL1 pads all round, Weichers front strut brace, Eibach front & rear anti-roll bars, Michelin MP4S.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-27-2018, 08:18 AM	#7
F15CCT Captain 84 Rep 611 Posts Drives: F31 335d Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: North London iTrader: (0)	Ok thanks, will look to find my local ZF specialist.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-27-2018, 10:12 AM	#8
Liquidfox Private First Class 34 Rep 151 Posts Drives: F30 335d Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: North East iTrader: (0)	Beware that if you have the BMW Insured warranty all future claims on the box will be refused
	Appreciate 1 bimmer4562959.50 Quote

01-27-2018, 01:24 PM	#10
soulboy Private 19 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 420i msport x drive auto Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: tickhill iTrader: (0)	no bmw centre do gearbox fluid change need very specialised tech,they farm them out to local specialists as do merc in south yorkshire
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-28-2018, 03:10 AM	#14
Tengocity General 8566 Rep 19,982 Posts Drives: 911, Cayenne Turbo, Disco 4 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Crieff, Perthshire, Scotland iTrader: (0)	I've also had mine done by a BMW dealership, so if they refused a warranty claim then that would be an interesting conversation or two. __________________ Current: Porsche 911 991 C4S, Porsche Cayenne Turbo, Land Rover Discovery 4. Gone...G01 X3 M40i, Cayman S 987, F31 340i, Cayman GT4, F82 M4 CP, Lotus Exige V6, G20 330e, F30 330e, Boxster S 987, F31 335d, Mini Cooper SD, E89 Z4, E90 330d 320d, E60 520d, E46 330d 320d, MX5s, E30 325i
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-28-2018, 01:26 PM	#21
Daftasabrush Fool 1857 Rep 3,542 Posts Drives: F31 340i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: England iTrader: (0)	Dear Daftasabrush, your request has been received by ZF Services UK Ltd.. Your question to us: Hi there, I note the 8P70H transmission has an oil service interval of 60K KM, please can you tell me the oil service interval for the 8HP50? Many thanks, Daft We will get in touch with you as soon as possible. Three days later: Dear Daftasabrush, the following solution has been found for your request: Hello Daft, The service interval is the same __________________
	Appreciate 1 Jim23k57.50 Quote

01-28-2018, 05:00 PM	#22
LarsF New Member 2 Rep 7 Posts Drives: F30 328i Sport Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Cheshire iTrader: (0)	My 8 speed ZF gearbox had gear oil, pan, seals and filter changed 2 weeks ago. Car was 1 day at my local BMW indie garage. Handy that they are ZF trained and certified to do this kind of work. Gearbox was working well and smooth before with 66k trouble free miles the clock, but does seem to be 5-10% smoother now - same kind of feeling you get after an engine oil change. Paid £750 + VAT. So a little expensive for this preventive maintenance, but was told a new gear box would be approximately £5K.
	Appreciate 0 Quote