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      12-27-2017, 06:53 PM   #199
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What’s the problem you’re running into trying to go past 20psi?
need a flash, the trans slip past 20psi, after the flash i can push 25-26 psi, more than that need xhp for the 8AT. that's it
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im running efr8374, only jb4 for tune, EWG, but only can push 20psi, twisted tuning can tune it, also terry will release flash maps by MHD.

what's the problem?, it's just about time.
I am not going to retype this for the 30th time in this thread.

MHD looks promising. I’m going to give it a try when I get back from this business trip.
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im running efr8374, only jb4 for tune, EWG, but only can push 20psi, twisted tuning can tune it, also terry will release flash maps by MHD.

what's the problem?, it's just about time.
I am not going to retype this for the 30th time in this thread.

MHD looks promising. I’m going to give it a try when I get back from this business trip.
MHD or BM3, they're essentially map delivering systems. Tuner & map are what you really need. Delivered via which channel, doesn't matter.
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MHD or BM3, they're essentially map delivering systems. Tuner & map are what you really need. Delivered via which channel, doesn't matter.
My point being, I have not been able to get anyone to tune my car via BM3. Within 10 minutes of sending an email to MHD, they were ready to help. I’m going to give them a try.
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MHD or BM3, they're essentially map delivering systems. Tuner & map are what you really need. Delivered via which channel, doesn't matter.
no, not all tuners flash by BM3, most of them flash by MHD, look at all n54 owners with big single 99% of them flashed by MHD at least it works well with jb4 and supported by Terry
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no, not all tuners flash by BM3, most of them flash by MHD, look at all n54 owners with big single 99% of them flashed by MHD at least it works well with jb4 and supported by Terry
Uh, of course they flash MHD, there is no BM3 for n54.

The current advantage with BM3 right now is their table editor and tuners list, you can request anyone in their list, depending on your mods or preference or if you're brave enough, make your own tune with their editor.
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It's a fact MHD was the only popular platform back in E days when even PTF tuned through MHD, which is again my point - platform is irrelevant, what matters is tuner and map.

It's also true not all tuners are comfortable with the way BM3 is, uploading their files to a central cloud server, risking file being stolen or something. But reality is the people in the whole industry are stealing from one another. Nobody should care too much about their file, they'll be eventually all the same given enough time.

I'm in no way married to BM3 despite of the fact they custom tuned my car. I can see MHD just showed its huge potential of going back onto top like they were in old days. But at the end, what most of us, as end users, care about most is whoever is most skilled and take time fine tuning and making your map.
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Uh, of course they flash MHD, there is no BM3 for n54.

The current advantage with BM3 right now is their table editor and tuners list, you can request anyone in their list, depending on your mods or preference or if you're brave enough, make your own tune with their editor.
Or E series N55. BM3 is strictly for F series vehicles.

Yeah that’s good an fine with the tuner list, but when your “My Maps” page is filled with requests to tuners for a tune, you’ve sent emails, and messages and no one is willing to do a tune for you, it’s pretty cool. I’m going to try out the MHD thing. Shit, for $300, why not? I’ve been hearing some pretty promising things such as bigger numbers and no falling off top end compared to BM3. Can’t speak for the drivability, but there are a bunch of these cars in the wild now.
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need a flash, the trans slip past 20psi, after the flash i can push 25-26 psi, more than that need xhp for the 8AT. that's it
I see. What is stopping you from flashing the dme?
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Or E series N55. BM3 is strictly for F series vehicles.

Yeah that’s good an fine with the tuner list, but when your “My Maps” page is filled with requests to tuners for a tune, you’ve sent emails, and messages and no one is willing to do a tune for you, it’s pretty cool. I’m going to try out the MHD thing. Shit, for $300, why not? I’ve been hearing some pretty promising things such as bigger numbers and no falling off top end compared to BM3. Can’t speak for the drivability, but there are a bunch of these cars in the wild now.
I always say, you can't fix a hardware problem with software. If it's falling off top, it's the turbo limit. You can't make a tune where you force the turbo to continue making power to redline, there's a reason why everyone goes pure or bigboost.

I've never had a problem with asking for tuning, I've easily sent logs back and forth with PTF and they completed it for me. They also told me to tell them in advance when I want a custom tune as they're booked solid with other people's custom tune as well.

Also, MHD is more than 300$

**MHD Flasher N55:**
Flasher license: 249$
Monitor license: 99$
Map packs: 99$ each


Custom tuning is extra (probably the same price as BM3)

You're essentially paying an extra 50$ for an OTS map provided by MHD instead.

If you're going to go ahead and get MHD, do a BM3 OTS dyno vs MHD pls

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I always say, you can't fix a hardware problem with software. If it's falling off top, it's the turbo limit. You can't make a tune where you force the turbo to continue making power to redline, there's a reason why everyone goes pure or bigboost.

I've never had a problem with asking for tuning, I've easily sent logs back and forth with PTF and they completed it for me. They also told me to tell them in advance when I want a custom tune as they're booked solid with other people's custom tune as well.

Also, MHD is more than 300$

**MHD Flasher N55:**
Flasher license: 249$
Monitor license: 99$
Map packs: 99$ each


Custom tuning is extra (probably the same price as BM3)

You're essentially paying an extra 50$ for an OTS map provided by MHD instead.

If you're going to go ahead and get MHD, do a BM3 OTS dyno vs MHD pls

I’ve now seen multiple claims from tuners doing MHD that the top end isn’t falling off like before... I’m curious. Also, I’m just upset with the fact that I’ve tried 5 different tuners and was ready to pay only for them all to go radio silent.

I’ll go back to the same Dyno I previously used to compare BM3 to MHD for sure.
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I see. What is stopping you from flashing the dme?
flashed by BM3 faced problem in boost control, back to stock, waiting for terry to release maps & mhd. many EWG cars faced problems with BM3.
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Or E series N55. BM3 is strictly for F series vehicles.

Yeah that’s good an fine with the tuner list, but when your “My Maps” page is filled with requests to tuners for a tune, you’ve sent emails, and messages and no one is willing to do a tune for you, it’s pretty cool. I’m going to try out the MHD thing. Shit, for $300, why not? I’ve been hearing some pretty promising things such as bigger numbers and no falling off top end compared to BM3. Can’t speak for the drivability, but there are a bunch of these cars in the wild now.
Interesting. Im glad i keep waiting to make my next move on power. Always a new tuner or part with the n55...

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I see. What is stopping you from flashing the dme?


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flashed by BM3 faced problem in boost control, back to stock, waiting for terry to release maps & mhd. many EWG cars faced problems with BM3.

Although I'm not one of them, we should be clear here...

bm3 is a platform which provides either an end user the ability to store and/or flash OTS/Custom Maps (amongst numerous other things) and Tuner Network to work directly with multiple tuners (I personally have not had any issues making contact).

The map was the issue...not bm3 or act of flashing


I get what you're referring to...but, people new to this process or platform will not. .. 👍 🍻

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need a flash, the trans slip past 20psi, after the flash i can push 25-26 psi, more than that need xhp for the 8AT. that's it
Who can tune the trans? MHD or Bootmod3? Also how much are they upping the line pressure?
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I am wondering which BW turbo does the f30 335i come with stock?Out of curiosity I would ditch the restrictive stock turbomani ,get the Speed tech exh mani,purchase a BW T4 TS Exh turbine housing for the existing stock BW CHRA and compressor housing and bolt her on. Perhaps would be cheaper and looks like the mani is the big bottle neck. Also wondering if the M3/4 manifolds have this bottleneck. Just my thoughts.
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I am wondering which BW turbo does the f30 335i come with stock?Out of curiosity I would ditch the restrictive stock turbomani ,get the Speed tech exh mani,purchase a BW T4 TS Exh turbine housing for the existing stock BW CHRA and compressor housing and bolt her on. Perhaps would be cheaper and looks like the mani is the big bottle neck. Also wondering if the M3/4 manifolds have this bottleneck. Just my thoughts.
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Hi everyone! I was waiting this moment since I got my X5. And now I'm happy to announce you all my MNSTR car coming to life. It's going to be the fastest BMW X5 N55 E70 in the world. Me and my crew are expecting to hit 700+hp. All the details, dyno results, more photo and video, will be posted very very soon. Stay tuned.

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Whose all running 525 rwhp or more on the street what’s your setup? Which bw turbo did you go with? Thanks
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Hi everyone! I was waiting this moment since I got my X5. And now I'm happy to announce you all my MNSTR car coming to life. It's going to be the fastest BMW X5 N55 E70 in the world. Me and my crew are expecting to hit 700+hp. All the details, dyno results, more photo and video, will be posted very very soon. Stay tuned.

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Yes sir spot on. I believe I've seen the discussion m, if this is the same guy that is on his 3rd Ps2 due to failure all at full retail then we're thinking of the same occurrence, and that's just one of many.

Check out Alex's manifold. And the M5 hybrid turbo down in Brazil that the impeller screw worked itself off and damaged the compressor wheel. Just sayin keep your options open as there are MANY better options now.
my second PS2 just blow up yesterday and same problem. comp wheel

i can say that this turbos are made maximum for 18 psi. more that that and you turbo eventually die.

also 3 friends have PS2´S all with different tunners and set ups and die.

im going now for speedtech
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my second PS2 just blow up yesterday and same problem. comp wheel

i can say that this turbos are made maximum for 18 psi. more that that and you turbo eventually die.

also 3 friends have PS2´S all with different tunners and set ups and die.

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Thanks for the update.

Can you provide some more information on your setup/tune?

How much boost were you running? What fuel? What tuning solution? Do you have any logs of your car you could please share? Just curious as to the boost and AFR people are running. A lot of tunes I see are very lean and I am wondering if that contributes to turbo failure.
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