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      03-22-2022, 05:11 PM   #1
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Steering rack ZF issue

Hello guys,

I have some worries, while driving, currently not very often, but I feel some discomfort while hit some small bumps and intermittently experience vibration to the wheel.

I saw a few threads here for repair kit, got one 32106891974, but it seems I also got the big D :mad 0260: my parts are a little bit different, so I assume that kit will not work for me.

My cap it looks the same as the old one in the picture.
After some research it seems I have ZF steering rack, and that kit is only for ThyssenKrupp Steering.
My question is do you know more about ZF rack is there similar repair kits for it?
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      03-23-2022, 10:09 AM   #2
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Does anyone know more about it? :/
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      03-23-2022, 10:18 AM   #3
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Have you contacted your local BMW dealer ?
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Have you contacted your local BMW dealer ?
Yup, they want to replace it with a new one 2500$ I'm considering to find a shop where they can refurbish it...
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      03-27-2022, 05:22 PM   #5
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Yup, they want to replace it with a new one 2500$ I'm considering to find a shop where they can refurbish it...
Is there a used parts dealer in your area? That's another avenue to source the steering rack at a better price.
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      04-26-2022, 09:14 PM   #6
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Have you contacted your local BMW dealer ?
Yup, they want to replace it with a new one 2500$ I'm considering to find a shop where they can refurbish it...
Hello OP, I have the same problem. I need to find a repair kit, I was wondering if you have found the right part no? Thanks
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      07-27-2022, 08:11 AM   #7
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Hello OP, I have the same problem. I need to find a repair kit, I was wondering if you have found the right part no? Thanks

I think that you are looking for 32106891974 if your steering rack is ThyssenKrupp, but if you have the same as mine ZF it is not compatible.
Recycling if possible or a new one
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      07-27-2022, 04:04 PM   #8
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Make sure it's the rack. I had normal symptoms indicating I needed the Thrust Piece AFS repair kit, especially with my somewhat high mileage of 175K. Was preparing to order the repair kit right after new tires were installed and the alignment done. Lo and behold, when the tech was preparing to do the alignment, he observed I had some play in the left tie rod. Brought me out to the floor to show. Sure enough, it was worn. Replaced both and TA DA! Symptoms gone. Yours may well need replacing, just don't jump to that conclusion without doing your due diligence troubleshooting
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I think that you are looking for 32106891974 if your steering rack is ThyssenKrupp, but if you have the same as mine ZF it is not compatible.
Recycling if possible or a new one
Correct. OP, beware a dedicated torque tool is required, at least according to BMW.
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Hi All,

I also own a ZF, and lately, the rattling from the front right wheel has significantly worsened. I've searched through numerous forums and posts but haven't found a solution for resolving this issue without having to replace the entire rack.
I'm contemplating purchasing a second-hand ZF rack. Would it be feasible, in anyone's opinion, to simply substitute the screw cap and inner parts, thereby essentially assembling my own repair kit similar to the one available for the ThyssenKrupp rack?

Thanks
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Hi All,

I also own a ZF, and lately, the rattling from the front right wheel has significantly worsened. I've searched through numerous forums and posts but haven't found a solution for resolving this issue without having to replace the entire rack.
I'm contemplating purchasing a second-hand ZF rack. Would it be feasible, in anyone's opinion, to simply substitute the screw cap and inner parts, thereby essentially assembling my own repair kit similar to the one available for the ThyssenKrupp rack?

Thanks
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Alright, so I've had the screw cap tightened, which has eliminated the rattling noise. However, now the steering feels odd. It doesn’t feel heavier to steer, but it does feel a bit stiff when returning to the center position. Once it starts moving back, it feels light again, but it requires a manual adjustment to get it going. I'm concerned I might have to replace the steering rack. Does anyone know if I could substitute the ZF rack with a ThyssenKrupp rack?
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Loosening the nut slightly and try again. The inability to self-center is typically a symptom of over tightening.
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There's actually a procedure in ISTA for adjusting this to the correct tension.
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I suspect the problem arose because my mechanic overtightened it initially. After loosening it slightly, the knocking returned, so he tightened it again until the knocking stopped. Now, I'm faced with a dilemma: should I have it loosened a bit more, risking the return of the knocking, or should I just accept it as it is?
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There's actually a procedure in ISTA for adjusting this to the correct tension.
There is, but you won't be able to do it without $2000+ in special tools
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There is, but you won't be able to do it without $2000+ in special tools
You tighten the nut till ista says it's good. There's no special tools. even aftermarket scanners can do it.
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You tighten the nut till ista says it's good. There's no special tools. even aftermarket scanners can do it.
Lots of questions on this. Do you have any link to this procedure (whether it be forum post or YouTube video)? How would the steering rack know how tight the nut is?
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Lots of questions on this. Do you have any link to this procedure (whether it be forum post or YouTube video)? How would the steering rack know how tight the nut is?
There is a torque sensor in the rack. That's how it knows when to add assist.
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