[mose121]

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We're looking for a loaded up F31 Sport Wagon. Open to both pre and post LCI models, but not willing to compromise on options. Yes, I'm well aware that I'm looking for a needle in a haystack.

Must haves...

Black, Red, or Saddle Brown Leather Interior (No SensaTec/Leatherette)
M Sport Package
Cold Weather Package
Premium Package
Lighting Package
Driver Assistance Plus Package
Technology Package
Dynamic Handling Package (Pre-LCI) or Track Handling Package (Post-LCI)
M Sport Brakes (Pre-LCI); included in Track Handling Package (Post-LCI)
Rear Manual Side Window Shades
Harmon Kardon Audio System
Alarm System
Parking Assistant

Staggered Light Alloy Wheels with Performance Tires, Automatic High Beams, and Active Cruise Control are a definite plus, but not must haves.

[eleven11]

You're right - needle in a haystack. I was looking for the same vehicle earlier this year.

My advice? Don't waste your time looking for the Track Handling Package. The VSS is of minimal benefit, the brakes can easily be added later, and the wheels are ugly. You get the Adaptive M Suspension with the M Sport package, which is worth getting.

I'd also recommend post-LCI.

[Johnny250]

wow, good luck finding this one.

[mose121]

Originally Posted by eleven11

You're right - needle in a haystack. I was looking for the same vehicle earlier this year.

My advice? Don't waste your time looking for the Track Handling Package. The VSS is of minimal benefit, the brakes can easily be added later, and the wheels are ugly. You get the Adaptive M Suspension with the M Sport package, which is worth getting.

I'd also recommend post-LCI.

Appreciate the insight. I actually worked for BMW for almost a decade so I'm quite familiar with the ins and outs of the F31. Honestly I'd rather have a pre-lci for both price and mod purposes. No Dinan big turbo option for the lci's...yet. The car is going to get the full ///M Performance treatment, along with all the Dinan powertrain mods. Plus I can easily retrofit any LCI parts that I may want like the illuminated console trim, etc.

I quite like the pre-lci staggered wheel option, and they'd only be used in the winter. LCI track handling package wheels aren't my fav but I can deal with them or trade for something else to use in winter. Have a set of black BBS CH Nurburgring Edition wheels with red stripe/lettering that I'll run in the summer.

I'd rather not have to upgrade the brakes right out of the gate, so the M Sport brakes will tide me over until I decide what to do upgrade wise.

VSS rack base ratio is shorter than the standard rack to begin with, and being used to M3 racks it's actually very noticeable to me. Standard ratio turn in feels way too slow and constantly drives me nuts! Anytime I get a 3er/X3 loaner I just can't stand that the initial turn in is so "far behind" where the front end is going. At least that's my perception based on my driving history. Lots of track time in cars with very short ratio racks and I work for Porsche now, so that's probably a big part of my perception as well.

[mose121]

Originally Posted by Johnny250

wow, good luck finding this one.

I had found one, a Melbourne red example in Chicago that was perfect, but unfortunately I needed another week before I could pull the trigger and they sold it. Grrrrr...

[eleven11]

Originally Posted by mose121

Appreciate the insight. I actually worked for BMW for almost a decade so I'm quite familiar with the ins and outs of the F31. Honestly I'd rather have a pre-lci for both price and mod purposes......

Ahh. Very good points, and it sounds like you've got a great understanding of the platform. I agree that the post-LCI (B46/B48) is still quite limited on the performance options. I don't have much experience with VSS, and based my opinion on its purpose and the thoughts of others. For what it's worth, I'm still on the stock brakes, which have actually been quite solid. I'm not tracking, but even with a good 30-45 minute backroad adventure they hold firm. I'm planning to upgrade them in the future, which will primarily be aesthetic for my needs. Good luck with your search!

[redEYEjedi]

Originally Posted by mose121

I had found one, a Melbourne red example in Chicago that was perfect, but unfortunately I needed another week before I could pull the trigger and they sold it. Grrrrr...

I know which one you were talking about. FULLY loaded f31 that sat on the market for 2 months, then was purchased by another Chicago based dealer and sat for another month +. It was overpriced at 33k most recently and was originally listed and sat for 29k 3+ months ago at the other dealer.

I know because I was watching that car for months. Almost bought it multiple times but knowing that it was overpriced made me stop.

[redEYEjedi]

Originally Posted by eleven11

You're right - needle in a haystack. I was looking for the same vehicle earlier this year.

My advice? Don't waste your time looking for the Track Handling Package. The VSS is of minimal benefit, the brakes can easily be added later, and the wheels are ugly. You get the Adaptive M Suspension with the M Sport package, which is worth getting.

I'd also recommend post-LCI.

Just to clarify, you do not automatically get the Adaptive M Suspension with the M sport F31.

Pre-LCI’s either had standard suspension or Dynamic Handling Package aka Adaptive M suspension and VSS. M sport brakes can be optioned separately.
LCI’s either had standard suspension or Track Handling Package (which is an updated package name for Adaptive M + VSS + M sport brakes)

Most F31’s only came with standard though. I have actually found non M sport F31’s with adaptive M + VSS.

[eleven11]

Originally Posted by redEYEjedi

Just to clarify, you do not automatically get the Adaptive M Suspension with the M sport F31.

Pre-LCI’s either had standard suspension or Dynamic Handling Package aka Adaptive M suspension and VSS. M sport brakes can be optioned separately.
LCI’s either had standard suspension or Track Handling Package (which is an updated package name for Adaptive M + VSS + M sport brakes)

Most F31’s only came with standard though. I have actually found non M sport F31’s with adaptive M + VSS.

For pre-LCI, yes. I was referring to post-LCI (should have clarified). I purchased mine as a CPO, but it's a 2017 (post-LCI). My understanding is that the path to get Adaptive M was different, pre vs post-LCI. Either way, I recommend always checking a BMW Vin Decoding website.

[Sweeney921]

I'm selling my LCI 2017 F31 with 41k miles in excellent condition. It's very well optioned with M-Sport and THP. Link:

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1531855