[Drpoomanchu]

Originally Posted by EstorilMSport

I'm in Tampa as well. Was running stage 1 until by CP blew, waiting for my aa cp to go fbo and stage 2. Ever go to the Tampa Bimmer meets?

I'll be in Clearwater in June... I would meet up but I'll be rolling with the wife and two kids in an Odyssey :

[Grewal99]

Hey I updated my map today to the version 7 but for some reason my car started misfiring really bad the only code I got was 804415 but I couldn't find what that code is. I barely drove the car home it was really bad any idea what it could be I have fbo with bm3 91 octane map version 7, 2013 pwg, before I had the version 4 tune and it was okay then but after updating it misfired really bad even when I tried flashing back to version 4 it was still misfiring I also still have the stock fuel pump could it be that?

I'm pretty new to logging so if I did it wrong let me know and these are the codes I just found any idea what could be causing it? Thanks

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5adcaf16d10b430657a0a318

[harkes]

Originally Posted by Grewal99

Hey I updated my map today to the version 7 but for some reason my car started misfiring really bad the only code I got was 804415 but I couldn't find what that code is. I barely drove the car home it was really bad any idea what it could be I have fbo with bm3 91 octane map version 7, 2013 pwg, before I had the version 4 tune and it was okay then but after updating it misfired really bad even when I tried flashing back to version 4 it was still misfiring I also still have the stock fuel pump could it be that?

Post a log...

[harkes]

Originally Posted by Grewal99

Hey I updated my map today to the version 7 but for some reason my car started misfiring really bad the only code I got was 804415 but I couldn't find what that code is. I barely drove the car home it was really bad any idea what it could be I have fbo with bm3 91 octane map version 7, 2013 pwg, before I had the version 4 tune and it was okay then but after updating it misfired really bad even when I tried flashing back to version 4 it was still misfiring I also still have the stock fuel pump could it be that?

Mine is also PWG. Running great with V7. Post a log.

[PabloK]

still fucking around with this hesitation at 5,000 RPMS and up.. Kind of frustrating, I've had this issue since day one, and have communicated it many times to PTF.

Some say fuel pump, some say it's the map... I love BM3 and i understand it's a work in progress but why can't i get any sort of solid answer from PTF? When i wanted to buy $1,500 worth of products I got a friendly phone call in 30 minutes.



1. Am i better off working on my first map and post logs with and get updates from PTF?
2. Do stick with the OTS map that is not "upgradable" so not really sure how i can fix my hesitation.
3. What is (AGG on the OTS Maps)?


Here's a really long Datalog (131 seconds) - forgot to end it. If it's too hard to read i'll make a new one- This is my orig log with PTF, not the OTS Map

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5adc27ecd10b432eb318bd5e

[paimon.soror]

I can only answer number 3 for you: AGG is the "aggressive" burbles maps.

[lens]

Originally Posted by PabloK

still fucking around with this hesitation at 5,000 RPMS and up.. Kind of frustrating, I've had this issue since day one, and have communicated it many times to PTF.

Some say fuel pump, some say it's the map... I love BM3 and i understand it's a work in progress but why can't i get any sort of solid answer from PTF? When i wanted to buy $1,500 worth of products I got a friendly phone call in 30 minutes.



1. Am i better off working on my first map and post logs with and get updates from PTF?
2. Do stick with the OTS map that is not "upgradable" so not really sure how i can fix my hesitation.
3. What is (AGG on the OTS Maps)?


Here's a really long Datalog (131 seconds) - forgot to end it. If it's too hard to read i'll make a new one- This is my orig log with PTF, not the OTS Map

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5adc27ecd10b432eb318bd5e

Its as they said, make a log and a support ticket. They go through hundreds of tickets a day.

[Grewal99]

Originally Posted by Grewal99

Hey I updated my map today to the version 7 but for some reason my car started misfiring really bad the only code I got was 804415 but I couldn't find what that code is. I barely drove the car home it was really bad any idea what it could be I have fbo with bm3 91 octane map version 7, 2013 pwg, before I had the version 4 tune and it was okay then but after updating it misfired really bad even when I tried flashing back to version 4 it was still misfiring I also still have the stock fuel pump could it be that?

I'm pretty new to logging so if I did it wrong let me know and these are the codes I just found any idea what could be causing it? Thanks

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5adcaf16d10b430657a0a318

^^

[HKD126]

Originally Posted by PabloK

still fucking around with this hesitation at 5,000 RPMS and up.. Kind of frustrating, I've had this issue since day one, and have communicated it many times to PTF.

Some say fuel pump, some say it's the map... I love BM3 and i understand it's a work in progress but why can't i get any sort of solid answer from PTF? When i wanted to buy $1,500 worth of products I got a friendly phone call in 30 minutes.



1. Am i better off working on my first map and post logs with and get updates from PTF?
2. Do stick with the OTS map that is not "upgradable" so not really sure how i can fix my hesitation.
3. What is (AGG on the OTS Maps)?


Here's a really long Datalog (131 seconds) - forgot to end it. If it's too hard to read i'll make a new one- This is my orig log with PTF, not the OTS Map

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5adc27ecd10b432eb318bd5e

Do you have a custom tune? If not, get one.

[PabloK]

Originally Posted by HKD126

Do you have a custom tune? If not, get one.

HKD126, I appreciate your help.

What tuners are you gentlemen having good luck with?

I requested one from Enzo, got 1 response then he went radio silent.





I didn't mean to come off harsh on PTF, and my full apologies if I did. Just venting last night.. my bad. BM3 for life

[Twisted Tuning]

Originally Posted by JaredG_F30

I honestly think the AGG burbles are a bit ridiculous. The burbles on the Stage 2 tune are perfect in my opinion but to each their own.

BTW...doesn't it seem to you that the AGG burbles would be really bad on the engine. Just curious.

while every modern day car has overrun (bmw and a couple other OEMs calls it burble for some reason) built in to some degree from the OEM. it does not hurt anything if its not abused. Over aggressive burble and long duration of use can increase fuel oil dilution, wash cylinder walls, cause hot spots, and increase wear on the turbos.

Not something that becomes detrimental overnight by anymeans, but overuse or abuse can cause issues.

[HKD126]

Originally Posted by PabloK

HKD126, I appreciate your help.

What tuners are you gentlemen having good luck with?

I requested one from Enzo, got 1 response then he went radio silent.





I didn't mean to come off harsh on PTF, and my full apologies if I did. Just venting last night.. my bad. BM3 for life

Honestly, just send Halim (HCP) or PTF a request for one. I find it crazy that people in the BMW world spend ridiculous money on cars, parts and then cheap out on the tune. I strongly believe the OTS maps are meant to be a tune you drive on until the tuner can schedule a custom tune for you... Not a solution to be daily driven. Seriously, just spend the $300 and get a tune for your car. I didn’t mean for that to sound so brash towards you, just what I see in the BMW community. I’m coming from the world of building a handful of 4-600whp Honda’s and this is just insane to me. From what I recall in your posts, your car is pretty well modded... This will be the best $300 mod you could possibly do for your performance, drivability and longevity of your car.

Either tuner will not steer you wrong! Good luck and let us know how it goes!!!

[PabloK]

Originally Posted by HKD126

Honestly, just send Halim (HCP) or PTF a request for one. I find it crazy that people in the BMW world spend ridiculous money on cars, parts and then cheap out on the tune. I strongly believe the OTS maps are meant to be a tune you drive on until the tuner can schedule a custom tune for you... Not a solution to be daily driven. Seriously, just spend the $300 and get a tune for your car. I didn't mean for that to sound so brash towards you, just what I see in the BMW community. I'm coming from the world of building a handful of 4-600whp Honda's and this is just insane to me. From what I recall in your posts, your car is pretty well modded... This will be the best $300 mod you could possibly do for your performance, drivability and longevity of your car.

Either tuner will not steer you wrong! Good luck and let us know how it goes!!!

The cost is irrelevant.. I've gone above and beyond to properly equip the car to what to my knowledge are the best parts possible, sometimes through trial and error.

I'm asking for advice on next steps to solve this issue. If that's means an upgraded fuel pump or a custom tune that's fine. I'm just trying to get clarification as I have yet to find a solution.

Every vendor, forum member has a different opinion and 8 revisions to my tune has yet to accomplish a smooth running engine past 4,500rpms. I usually get about 6 word response on my tune revision requests when I detail in great description what's going on.

"here try this one -v6".

What I want, is for PTF to step up and help me figure this out. I've already paid for a tune. Do I need to spend $300 to get this resolved? If that's what it takes, fine, but I doesn't sit well with me from a marketing/business model that PTF pitched me. I was an early adopter, my $300 WiFi module didn't work for the first 5 months( why release something that isn't properly supported).

The sun will rise tomorrow but it's very frustrating.

Thanks for the help.
Pete

[SeanWRT]

Who is doing PS2 EWG on pump gas? Want to study and compare. Thanks in advance.

[akgambino]

Originally Posted by PabloK

The cost is irrelevant.. I've gone above and beyond to properly equip the car to what to my knowledge are the best parts possible, sometimes through trial and error.

I'm asking for advice on next steps to solve this issue. If that's means an upgraded fuel pump or a custom tune that's fine. I'm just trying to get clarification as I have yet to find a solution.

Every vendor, forum member has a different opinion and 8 revisions to my tune has yet to accomplish a smooth running engine past 4,500rpms. I usually get about 6 word response on my tune revision requests when I detail in great description what's going on.

"here try this one -v6".

What I want, is for PTF to step up and help me figure this out. I've already paid for a tune. Do I need to spend $300 to get this resolved? If that's what it takes, fine, but I doesn't sit well with me from a marketing/business model that PTF pitched me. I was an early adopter, my $300 WiFi module didn't work for the first 5 months( why release something that isn't properly supported).

The sun will rise tomorrow but it's very frustrating.

Thanks for the help.
Pete

Sounds familiar that's for sure! Been having a very similar experience with them myself and want some sort of confirmation that a custom tune will 100% solve my issues before I just throw money at it.

[lens]

Originally Posted by PabloK

The cost is irrelevant.. I've gone above and beyond to properly equip the car to what to my knowledge are the best parts possible, sometimes through trial and error.

I'm asking for advice on next steps to solve this issue. If that's means an upgraded fuel pump or a custom tune that's fine. I'm just trying to get clarification as I have yet to find a solution.

Every vendor, forum member has a different opinion and 8 revisions to my tune has yet to accomplish a smooth running engine past 4,500rpms. I usually get about 6 word response on my tune revision requests when I detail in great description what's going on.

"here try this one -v6".

What I want, is for PTF to step up and help me figure this out. I've already paid for a tune. Do I need to spend $300 to get this resolved? If that's what it takes, fine, but I doesn't sit well with me from a marketing/business model that PTF pitched me. I was an early adopter, my $300 WiFi module didn't work for the first 5 months( why release something that isn't properly supported).

The sun will rise tomorrow but it's very frustrating.

Thanks for the help.
Pete

Your case is a first really, my wifi obd agent works perfectly, they release a firmware, you update the SD and plug it back in and all good, and if its a update, you update via obd agent. OTS maps are exactly what they are, off the shelf, they are supposed to work with any car, and the rare few that doesn't, you log and send a support ticket and they'll fix it for you. If you want the most out of the car, you get a custom tune. They have alot of people to go through a day and I understand it sucks to wait but thats how it is, before the OTS map thing ever came out,I had to send dozens maybe close to 50 logs before we got it perfect on the OTS. Now they have OTS, if your version doesn't work well, you log and they'll take a look and adjust so it works.

I have the same exact responses from them and I do exactly what is told. Try it, log and send back. Then they will adjust and send you a new one and the process goes on until you're happy. Make sure to mention how the revision feels like on the notes.

[akgambino]

Originally Posted by HKD126

Honestly, just send Halim (HCP) or PTF a request for one. I find it crazy that people in the BMW world spend ridiculous money on cars, parts and then cheap out on the tune. I strongly believe the OTS maps are meant to be a tune you drive on until the tuner can schedule a custom tune for you... Not a solution to be daily driven. Seriously, just spend the $300 and get a tune for your car. I didn't mean for that to sound so brash towards you, just what I see in the BMW community. I'm coming from the world of building a handful of 4-600whp Honda's and this is just insane to me. From what I recall in your posts, your car is pretty well modded... This will be the best $300 mod you could possibly do for your performance, drivability and longevity of your car.

Either tuner will not steer you wrong! Good luck and let us know how it goes!!!

Good luck getting a custom tune from them lol! PTF won't do custom tunes and halim is wayyyyy to busy to be able to do custom tunes for people!

[lens]

Originally Posted by akgambino

Sounds familiar that's for sure! Been having a very similar experience with them myself and want some sort of confirmation that a custom tune will 100% solve my issues before I just throw money at it.

A custom tune, they make completely from scratch. So it should solve any problemd tune related. If you have a hardware problem, you'll find out.

[akgambino]

Originally Posted by chaungo

Your case is a first really, my wifi obd agent works perfectly, they release a firmware, you update the SD and plug it back in and all good, and if its a update, you update via obd agent. OTS maps are exactly what they are, off the shelf, they are supposed to work with any car, and the rare few that doesn't, you log and send a support ticket and they'll fix it for you. If you want the most out of the car, you get a custom tune. They have alot of people to go through a day and I understand it sucks to wait but thats how it is, before the OTS map thing ever came out,I had to send dozens maybe close to 50 logs before we got it perfect on the OTS. Now they have OTS, if your version doesn't work well, you log and they'll take a look and adjust so it works.

I have the same exact responses from them and I do exactly what is told. Try it, log and send back. Then they will adjust and send you a new one and the process goes on until you're happy. Make sure to mention how the revision feels like on the notes.

Been going through this with my car just not liking the ots map but to a certain extent I wonder if tweaking the ots map is just not ever going to solve whatever the issue is and it will need to be done with custom tuning from the ground up.
My understanding is there are many different n55 rom versions and some work better with the ots than others. This is a huge piss off to me having spent a lot of money on bm3 and it isn't really smooth sailing and now I need to go out and spend more money on a custom tune.

[lens]

Originally Posted by akgambino

Been going through this with my car just not liking the ots map but to a certain extent I wonder if tweaking the ots map is just not ever going to solve whatever the issue is and it will need to be done with custom tuning from the ground up.
My understanding is there are many different n55 rom versions and some work better with the ots than others. This is a huge piss off to me having spent a lot of money on bm3 and it isn't really smooth sailing and now I need to go out and spend more money on a custom tune.

Any tune you go to is gonna be the same exact thing, my OTS works but not enough to my liking but I know I need a custom for sure. OTS is just there so you can get a feel for it and have a car that is quicker and smoother. If you want the perfect tune, custom will be completely tailored to your car and mods and will solve most problems.

[HKD126]

Originally Posted by PabloK

The cost is irrelevant.. I've gone above and beyond to properly equip the car to what to my knowledge are the best parts possible, sometimes through trial and error.

I'm asking for advice on next steps to solve this issue. If that's means an upgraded fuel pump or a custom tune that's fine. I'm just trying to get clarification as I have yet to find a solution.

Every vendor, forum member has a different opinion and 8 revisions to my tune has yet to accomplish a smooth running engine past 4,500rpms. I usually get about 6 word response on my tune revision requests when I detail in great description what's going on.

"here try this one -v6".

What I want, is for PTF to step up and help me figure this out. I've already paid for a tune. Do I need to spend $300 to get this resolved? If that's what it takes, fine, but I doesn't sit well with me from a marketing/business model that PTF pitched me. I was an early adopter, my $300 WiFi module didn't work for the first 5 months( why release something that isn't properly supported).

The sun will rise tomorrow but it's very frustrating.

Thanks for the help.
Pete

If you are only running a revised OTS tune, yes, spend the $300 to get a custom tune.

[Bimmertodd88]

Originally Posted by PabloK

The cost is irrelevant.. I've gone above and beyond to properly equip the car to what to my knowledge are the best parts possible, sometimes through trial and error.

I'm asking for advice on next steps to solve this issue. If that's means an upgraded fuel pump or a custom tune that's fine. I'm just trying to get clarification as I have yet to find a solution.

Every vendor, forum member has a different opinion and 8 revisions to my tune has yet to accomplish a smooth running engine past 4,500rpms. I usually get about 6 word response on my tune revision requests when I detail in great description what's going on.

"here try this one -v6".

What I want, is for PTF to step up and help me figure this out. I've already paid for a tune. Do I need to spend $300 to get this resolved? If that's what it takes, fine, but I doesn't sit well with me from a marketing/business model that PTF pitched me. I was an early adopter, my $300 WiFi module didn't work for the first 5 months( why release something that isn't properly supported).

The sun will rise tomorrow but it's very frustrating.

Thanks for the help.
Pete

Yeah I paid 200 for my custom tune through bimmer performance center. They promised around 395 whp and 425wtorque. He took my stock tune and modified it and that was it.