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      03-02-2021, 09:40 AM   #6667
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Hi guys,

Looking at a '17 M3 Comp manufactured end of 2016 (delivery January 2017). According to data online it should have a NBT Evo system although it has no touch screen - i guess that arrived with the '18 models?

Android Auto is a must for me so If pulling the trigger I'd be getting this unit but I wondered how easy it is to control Android Auto/Carplay without an actual touch screen? Seems like entering address or picking points would be a bit of a pain??

Let me know how non-touch users are getting on with this.

Thanks!
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      03-02-2021, 10:39 AM   #6668
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Hello Everyone, this is my first post in this forum. Glad to join the forum. I am planning to order the Andream car play MMI unit and i am not clear whether aux input is mandatory, because i saw in one of the video everything is working fine without connecting to AUX.

Please see the video link below. Appreciate if someone could confirm whether anyone tried without aux cable?

I have the same concerns regarding the jack cable that need to be connected into the AUX Port. My F10 has CIC system and apart this cable i'm not sure also if the idrive harness and mic harness are really needed to be connected. In the end i will connect everything as i've received all this with the box and from other tutorials from YT regarding CIC systems, all this needs to be connected. For NBT also the big harness is coming without the additional wiring for idrive and mic.
The box requires AUX to send sound back to the head unit, but its not the AUX port in the armrest (as discussed on page 1 of the thread).

There are extra wires not necessary for NBT (mic, rear camera etc. if you don't add anything aftermarket).
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      03-02-2021, 10:41 AM   #6669
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Thanks for the details @propeller65. This is very helpful.

Have you installed the Andream unit as well? Did you upgrade to the latest version or the system by default comes with the latest firmware version?

Do I need to be aware of any other issues?

rayn3 : Have you already installed or planning to install one, if you are planning to which one you are going with.

As per my understanding and other reviews, all these Chinese systems would be using the same product underneath and it will not make much difference, in any case, please suggest a good unit with your experiences.

Thanks a lot for your suggestions
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      03-02-2021, 10:53 AM   #6670
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Thanks for the details @sbrook02.

I have another question, does the directions for navigation show in HUD and Dashboard when we use Waze or google maps from carplay?

Also, any other learnings which we should be aware of prior to installing these units? I am doing this first time hence a bit nervous .
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      03-02-2021, 11:27 AM   #6671
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Thanks for the details @sbrook02.

I have another question, does the directions for navigation show in HUD and Dashboard when we use Waze or google maps from carplay?

Also, any other learnings which we should be aware of prior to installing these units? I am doing this first time hence a bit nervous .
You are welcome. I don't think any displays from the carplay/AA will be sent back to the dashboard or HUD. The way it works is the box acts as a middleman to either send its own video signal to the CID screen or passes the HU signal.

iDrive mode: HU ----video signal------> Box (passive)----HU video signal---->CID
CarPlay mode: HU---(video dropped by MMI)---|||Box (Active)---MMI video signal---->CID

Other learnings: (1) You'll need to find the right place to put the box, either behind the HU or next to the glovebox. (2) Some wire connectors are a lot harder to take off than what the YT videos may suggest. (3) You may need to enable AUX by coding if you have an older head unit (no need for NBT).

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You are welcome. I don't think any displays from the carplay/AA will be sent back to the dashboard or HUD. The way it works is the box acts as a middleman to either send its own video signal to the CID screen or passes the HU signal. And audio signal is sent back to the HU via AUX.

Video signal:

iDrive mode: HU ----video signal------> Box (passive)----HU video signal---->CID
CarPlay mode: HU---(video dropped by MMI)---|||Box (Active)---MMI video signal---->CID

Audio signal:
MMI Box --------AUX Input--------->Head Unit

Other learnings: (1) You'll need to find the right place to put the box, either behind the HU or next to the glovebox. (2) Some wire connectors are a lot harder to take off than what the YT videos may suggest. (3) You may need to enable AUX by coding if you have an older head unit (no need for NBT).
Thanks for the details.
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      03-02-2021, 12:23 PM   #6673
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I have a RoadTop B2-Version with latest firmware. Is there any Custom Firmware that would work for me? Doesn't look like it based on page 1.

I'm hoping to get Android Auto + Google Maps NIGHT mode to work. (apps are up to date)
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Software Updates

RoadTop B-Version [NBT] [GEMINI_PACK.BIN]
  • BR104 (PIN: 8032) (Not cross compatible)
  • BR110 (PIN: 8032) (Not cross compatible)
  • BR112 (PIN: 8032) (Not cross compatible)
  • BR115 (PIN: 8032) (Not cross compatible)
  • NEW BR120.cpSDNRTY (PIN: 8032) (Not cross compatible)

RoadTop B2-Version [NBT] [GEMINI_PACK.BIN]
  • NEW B2R115 (PIN: 8032) (Not cross compatible)


Custom Firmware
Universal [NBT] [ISPBOOOT.BIN]
Note: This update will work on any A-Unit no matter the seller (does not work on B-version!)
Note2: A word regarding MCU updates: With this update you can only flash the MCU updates by Bimmertech. Flashing the default MCU from Andream/Carlinkit etc is only possible on their firmware. Currently there is no need to do anything (no new features etc), so you can leave everything as is. Also note that Bimmertech transforms the first digits of the MCU version from '20' to '10'.
  • v2.0.B0.mod (for BMW) (no PIN) (Cross compatible) (based on: v2.0.2.7t0.mmi.b)
  • v2.0.M0.mod (for MINI) (no PIN) (Cross compatible) (based on: v2.0.2.7t0.mmi.b)

Universal [CIC] [ISPBOOOT.BIN]
Note: You will not be able (yet) to flash any CIC MCU-Updates on this version. Make sure to flash them beforehand if you are not running the latest version and want to update.
  • v2.0.B1.mod (for BMW) (no PIN) (Cross compatible) (based on: v2.0.2.7t0.mmi.b)


Andream [NBT] [ISPBOOOT.BIN]
  • v1.0.A0.mod (PIN: 2863) (Not cross compatible) (based on: v2.1.0.6.gpe.b)

Carlinkit [NBT] [ISPBOOOT.BIN]
  • v1.0.C0.mod (PIN: 4091) (Not cross compatible) (based on: v9.2.5.yl.b)

Changelog (Custom)
v2.0.B0.mod and v2.0.M0.mod
Announcement post and following discussion: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...2#post26519212
  • Android Auto Widescreen Fix
  • Android Auto DPI Fix
  • Autolink Mirroring Screen Size Fix
  • Renamed MMI to BMW-MMI/MINI-MMI for Carplay and AA
  • Replaced MMI icon with BMW/MINI icon
  • Replaced car image on integrated PDC/camera screen
  • Changed icons to Blue when highlighted
  • Removed update / key checks
  • BMW/MINI Boot Logo
  • Custom Flash/update screen

v1.0.A0.mod and v1.0.C0.mod
Announcement post and following discussion: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...4#post26427924
  • Android Auto Widescreen Fix
  • Custom boot logo (BMW icon)
  • Replaced Z4 car image on integrated PDC/camera screen
  • Black flash/update screen
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      03-02-2021, 12:35 PM   #6674
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QQ, do these units automatically switch to the AUX input when you engage CarPlay?

I'm really debating between one of these units or the full Android touchscreen headunits (that replace the iDrive screen).

I currently have the Android touchscreen unit (12.3" HD display) and it changes over to AUX automatically, but the rest of the integration is a bit clunky so I'm considering returning it and just getting an MMI box. I lose the touchscreen, which is nice, but the MMI box might just integrate better.
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      03-02-2021, 12:57 PM   #6675
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QQ, do these units automatically switch to the AUX input when you engage CarPlay?

I'm really debating between one of these units or the full Android touchscreen headunits (that replace the iDrive screen).

I currently have the Android touchscreen unit (12.3" HD display) and it changes over to AUX automatically, but the rest of the integration is a bit clunky so I'm considering returning it and just getting an MMI box. I lose the touchscreen, which is nice, but the MMI box might just integrate better.
No but the idrive remembers what you have set. So if you have aux active and switch to idrive for something. Aux will keep playing back and forth. If you select antenna radio. It keeps playing antenna radio if you switch back to mmi screen.
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      03-02-2021, 01:31 PM   #6676
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You can change the boot logo and carplay logo (BMW/Mini) if upgrade to firmware 1.2.1 and here is my custom logo with my little knowledge on bitmap.
After months of trying to go from 1.1.2 to 1.1.5, I gave up.
Today I finally tried to update to 1.2.1 and it worked without a hitch.

I've been trying to figure out ways to give back to this community. The new feature where you can change the logo.bmp (start up screen) and the cp_back.png (the icon in Carplay to go back to the MMI menu) is freaking awesome. Thanks to boblok for finding and showing this.

I want to make some images to share with you.
Please let me know if you would like to see more or have request.

Instructions:

1. Download the file.
a. Start Up Screen: change the name of file to logo.bmp
b. CarPlay Icon: change the name of file to cp_back.png
(I tried to name the files so you just need to delete the beginning.)

2. Place file on USB thumb drive

3. Insert USB drive into the MMI USB plug

4. In MMI Settings, goto where you would upgrade your System and MCU

5. Select which image you would like to change
a. Start Up Screen: Select Logo image Update
b. CarPlay Icon: Select CarPlay icon Update

6. Reboot and VOILA!

I hope everyone enjoys!

Let me know if I should start a new thread to not clog this one up.
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      03-02-2021, 02:51 PM   #6677
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I've tried reaching out to the sales@carlinkit.com email. They were always responsive in the past, but are no longer replying. I've also noticed that I haven't seen any updates for their BMW NBT box for quite a long time on the first page of this thread.

So wondering... did I miss something, or did they go away?
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      03-02-2021, 06:30 PM   #6678
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Seems like entering address or picking points would be a bit of a pain??
Android Auto or Apple Carplay is made for voice commands. But if you like can also pin point destinations.
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      03-02-2021, 07:00 PM   #6679
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Does anyone have Rear Seat Entertainment and use one of these adapters?

I've just recently found out that using the Android unit I recently got tends to interfere with the RSE system in my 5-series which is a huge problem with kids in the car all the time.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boblok View Post
You can change the boot logo and carplay logo (BMW/Mini) if upgrade to firmware 1.2.1 and here is my custom logo with my little knowledge on bitmap.
After months of trying to go from 1.1.2 to 1.1.5, I gave up.
Today I finally tried to update to 1.2.1 and it worked without a hitch.

I've been trying to figure out ways to give back to this community. The new feature where you can change the logo.bmp (start up screen) and the cp_back.png (the icon in Carplay to go back to the MMI menu) is freaking awesome. Thanks to boblok for finding and showing this.

I want to make some images to share with you.
Please let me know if you would like to see more or have request.

Instructions:

1. Download the file.
a. Start Up Screen: change the name of file to logo.bmp
b. CarPlay Icon: change the name of file to cp_back.png
(I tried to name the files so you just need to delete the beginning.)

2. Place file on USB thumb drive

3. Insert USB drive into the MMI USB plug

4. In MMI Settings, goto where you would upgrade your System and MCU

5. Select which image you would like to change
a. Start Up Screen: Select Logo image Update
b. CarPlay Icon: Select CarPlay icon Update

6. Reboot and VOILA!

I hope everyone enjoys!

Let me know if I should start a new thread to not clog this one up.
This is roadtop only?
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I've tried reaching out to the sales@carlinkit.com email. They were always responsive in the past, but are no longer replying. I've also noticed that I haven't seen any updates for their BMW NBT box for quite a long time on the first page of this thread.

So wondering... did I miss something, or did they go away?
Im in touch with aiocoai (andream) on ali, and the keep me busy. Although i had older firmware on the box they did not give me the latest version. (I directly asked for it)
They ask for movie, try other phone, reinstall waze... etc...
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      03-03-2021, 05:50 AM   #6682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lohuot View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by boblok View Post
You can change the boot logo and carplay logo (BMW/Mini) if upgrade to firmware 1.2.1 and here is my custom logo with my little knowledge on bitmap.
After months of trying to go from 1.1.2 to 1.1.5, I gave up.
Today I finally tried to update to 1.2.1 and it worked without a hitch.

I've been trying to figure out ways to give back to this community. The new feature where you can change the logo.bmp (start up screen) and the cp_back.png (the icon in Carplay to go back to the MMI menu) is freaking awesome. Thanks to boblok for finding and showing this.

I want to make some images to share with you.
Please let me know if you would like to see more or have request.

Instructions:

1. Download the file.
a. Start Up Screen: change the name of file to logo.bmp
b. CarPlay Icon: change the name of file to cp_back.png
(I tried to name the files so you just need to delete the beginning.)

2. Place file on USB thumb drive

3. Insert USB drive into the MMI USB plug

4. In MMI Settings, goto where you would upgrade your System and MCU

5. Select which image you would like to change
a. Start Up Screen: Select Logo image Update
b. CarPlay Icon: Select CarPlay icon Update

6. Reboot and VOILA!

I hope everyone enjoys!

Let me know if I should start a new thread to not clog this one up.
This is roadtop only?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boblok View Post
You can change the boot logo and carplay logo (BMW/Mini) if upgrade to firmware 1.2.1 and here is my custom logo with my little knowledge on bitmap.
This is roadtop only?
I have an Andream B unit with 1.2.1.
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[QUOTE=lohuot;27293850]After months of trying to go from 1.1.2 to 1.1.5, I gave up.
Today I finally tried to update to 1.2.1 and it worked without a hitch.

Have you got any tips on how to successfully did this?
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After months of trying to go from 1.1.2 to 1.1.5, I gave up.
Today I finally tried to update to 1.2.1 and it worked without a hitch.

Have you got any tips on how to successfully did this?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruez View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by lohuot View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by boblok View Post
You can change the boot logo and carplay logo (BMW/Mini) if upgrade to firmware 1.2.1 and here is my custom logo with my little knowledge on bitmap.
After months of trying to go from 1.1.2 to 1.1.5, I gave up.
Today I finally tried to update to 1.2.1 and it worked without a hitch.

I've been trying to figure out ways to give back to this community. The new feature where you can change the logo.bmp (start up screen) and the cp_back.png (the icon in Carplay to go back to the MMI menu) is freaking awesome. Thanks to boblok for finding and showing this.

I want to make some images to share with you.
Please let me know if you would like to see more or have request.

Instructions:

1. Download the file.
a. Start Up Screen: change the name of file to logo.bmp
b. CarPlay Icon: change the name of file to cp_back.png
(I tried to name the files so you just need to delete the beginning.)

2. Place file on USB thumb drive

3. Insert USB drive into the MMI USB plug

4. In MMI Settings, goto where you would upgrade your System and MCU

5. Select which image you would like to change
a. Start Up Screen: Select Logo image Update
b. CarPlay Icon: Select CarPlay icon Update

6. Reboot and VOILA!

I hope everyone enjoys!

Let me know if I should start a new thread to not clog this one up.
This is roadtop only?
[QUOTE=Thewrench86;27296682]
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After months of trying to go from 1.1.2 to 1.1.5, I gave up.
Today I finally tried to update to 1.2.1 and it worked without a hitch.

Have you got any tips on how to successfully did this?
I used the same USB drive I've always used.
I formatted the drive on a Mac using Disk Utility.
I did the normal process, it just happened to work. Unfortunately, I have no clue why it worked this time and not the others.
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I just updated my RoadTop carplay unit as shown in the photos. The password accepted was for the Andream (2863) so I am a bit confused. Seems to work fine. Also changed the cp_back.png and logo.bmp files thanks to Lohout. Thanks guys.
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I've tried reaching out to the sales@carlinkit.com email. They were always responsive in the past, but are no longer replying. I've also noticed that I haven't seen any updates for their BMW NBT box for quite a long time on the first page of this thread.

So wondering... did I miss something, or did they go away?
I luckily got my Carlinkit with v9.2.10 preinstalled, and when I asked for a copy of the firmware they (technical support) gave me every possible excuse not to send it... "Why do you need it? if everything works what do you need it then for? we don't recommend you downgrade to 9.2.9 and then go back to 9.2.10..." there was no way of getting that file from them, I gave up eventually.

Carlinkit technical/customer support is a disaster but on the other hand sales team is great. People who followed my story know that I first got a faulty unit (OEM backup camera was not displaying on CID, the rest was fine), and since technical support was of no help I ended up contacting the sales team and asking for a replacement unit. They've sent a new device next day and it arrived in just 3 days. I only needed to pay a deposit of 70 Euros and was promised I would get the money back as soon as they receive the faulty device. Well the new unit worked great (small issue with incoming calls but I've found a workaround) and today it finally happened, they got the faulty device and I got my money back, so sales guys were really great.

The only bad thing is that I guess we won't be getting v9.2.11 from Carlinkit officially once it's out
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Hi guys , is there anyone who had retrofitted 8.8” screen(so before was 6.5”) and together with any Carplay MMI fitted aftermarket rear view camera too without any problem for camera view ??

It would be reeeeeally helpful if anyone exists because i have this set up but I have tried two different brand MMI until now and on both of them doesn’t work rear view camera with 8.8 display(works only factory pdc) but on both of them working normally with 6.5” display...
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After months of trying to go from 1.1.2 to 1.1.5, I gave up.
Today I finally tried to update to 1.2.1 and it worked without a hitch.

I've been trying to figure out ways to give back to this community. The new feature where you can change the logo.bmp (start up screen) and the cp_back.png (the icon in Carplay to go back to the MMI menu) is freaking awesome. Thanks to boblok for finding and showing this.

I want to make some images to share with you.
Please let me know if you would like to see more or have request.

Instructions:

1. Download the file.
a. Start Up Screen: change the name of file to logo.bmp
b. CarPlay Icon: change the name of file to cp_back.png
(I tried to name the files so you just need to delete the beginning.)

2. Place file on USB thumb drive

3. Insert USB drive into the MMI USB plug

4. In MMI Settings, goto where you would upgrade your System and MCU

5. Select which image you would like to change
a. Start Up Screen: Select Logo image Update
b. CarPlay Icon: Select CarPlay icon Update

6. Reboot and VOILA!

I hope everyone enjoys!

Let me know if I should start a new thread to not clog this one up.
Thanks here is mine for MINI :
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