[Logicoeur]

Originally Posted by Nathen4242

I live in Canada and if you have Bad winters with a lot of snow i 100% would get a x drive, i have never gotten stuck anywhere and i have seen 4x4 trucks stuck in a snow storm and i just go passed them like its nothing. A great set of Winter Tires and you are good to go!

Pickups aren't really a good baseline lol. Their suspension isn't built for grip. Moreover, owners seem to have some superhuman sense of safety driving them in bad weather. In New England every snow storm has an overturned pickup truck on the side of a freeway causing traffic. I mean they say us BMW/Audi drivers are ass holes but pickup drivers are top two, and not two.

[FastF30]

This guy says it exactly about Xdrive.... starts at 5:50... 600+ Hp....

[FastF30]

Chris Harris from Top Gear was just interviewed about the new M3/4... during that interview he said he thought the F80 was almost perfect.... just needed Xdrive ....

[FastF30]

Xdrive.............. it's an x3 but I'm sure it's basically the same for the f30

[mattyf30]

I'm in Montreal and RWD isnt available to us. xDrive only.
Our winters are worse than Toronto/Vancouver seeing as you won't move if you only have great winter tires on a rwd car.
That being said, you still need winter tires and AWD for the best traction over here.

[frchdragon]

When I decided I wanted a 335i I tested two of them.
1- '12 335i Sport 6MT RWD
2- '13 335i Msport Auto AWD

I really though that I wanted a 6MT RWD, but I really didn't like the suspension being not EDC, the skiny steering wheel and the loss of boost between shifts.
The Msport with EDC and leaking front shocks had a much better handling. The car can take corners much faster than my E60 sport RWD sport suspension (M5 sway) ever did.

I live in the snow belt but I never needed AWD, good snow tires and driving skills are more than enough even in deep snow, I did get stuck if my driveway (uphill) is pure ice, my ex to be wife never had a problem with the X3.
But I see the AWD as a backpack, it is handy sometimes but I don't need to carry one everyday.

So why did I buy one? Well, it was cheap. and nowadays a cheap Msport is rare so I bought it. I can adapt my driving around the AWD.
If I had the choice between the two at the same price, I would absolutely get a RWD. More fun to drive, better handling, easier to throttle steer, easier to work on, and you can get more front camber easier. A better track car.

You want sporty: Get RWD
You want everyday / scare of snow or wet: Get AWD
You want drag racing: Get AWD

[frchdragon]

Originally Posted by mattyf30

I'm in Montreal and RWD isnt available to us. xDrive only.
Our winters are worse than Toronto/Vancouver seeing as you won't move if you only have great winter tires on a rwd car.
That being said, you still need winter tires and AWD for the best traction over here.

And it is mandated by law so you need to have snow tires.
But snow tires can save your bacon on ice and all season tires are not good at anything, just a compromise for all situations.

But I agree that you receive some nasty weather, I always dreaded doing the drive from TO to MTR when I was in sales. The Hwy turns to ice and you don't know until you see cars in the ditch.

[mattyf30]

Originally Posted by frchdragon

And it is mandated by law so you need to have snow tires.
But snow tires can save your bacon on ice and all season tires are not good at anything, just a compromise for all situations.

But I agree that you receive some nasty weather, I always dreaded doing the drive from TO to MTR when I was in sales. The Hwy turns to ice and you don't know until you see cars in the ditch.

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