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      10-16-2020, 01:09 PM   #243
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If the connectors (MQS) were very hard to insert then there is a high probability that you’re in the same situation in which I was: these connectors are too big.
Each female connector should enter into the plastic socket (a174*14b) without effort and you should hear a click.
If not, you may have to crimp the 6 wires with new MQS connectors like I did.
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Zheez, thank you very much for your prompt reply.
In the meantime I had ordered 61131383776 - Socket terminal MQS 0.2-0.35 MM²/SN.
I've crimped my 6 cables with these sockets this afternoon and they fit perfectly in the a174*14b plug inside the REM. (ahhh... this satisfying "click" noise after each cable insertion)

I cannot test my setup yet as I'm missing the front sensors harness which is still in transit.

My car is an LCI, my guess is that pre-LCI uses wider-sized connectors : 0,5-0.75 MM²
Jyrmy83 check my post from last month
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Jyrmy83 check my post from last month
Thanks! I think that I need to do that same thing🤔.
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BMW 3 series F30 F31 F34 FULL Park Distance Control Retrofit Kit PDC

I found this full retrofit kit on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-3-serie...gAAOSw4qBfhEtf

Is it all I need for this retrofit? My BMW f30 doesn't have park sensors at all, please advice
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BMW f30 PDC park sensor retrofit install

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Originally Posted by johnnieb View Post
Hi all, I'm going to use this thread to document and share my experience on retrofitting Front Park Distance Control (PDC) and all necessary disassemblies on my F30.

I'm attaching EBA 2338017 which is the official installation instructions for this retrofit which applies to F30 F31 F20 and F21 .

This is the necessary parts list for a Sapphire Black F30 with a non M front Bumper:
Description Part number #
Install.kit, Park Distance Control,front 66202338070 1x
Repair kit for bracket, bumper, front 51117324343 1x
Ultrasonic sensor, black 66209261582 4x
Cable Set Front bumper 61129260019 1x
Unit, center console 61319252912 1x
Center console control unit retrofit cable (included in 66202338070)
Decoupling ring PDC torque converter 66206923000 4x (included in 66202338070)

Center console unit
Attachment 1870400

Cable Set Front bumper 61129260019
Attachment 1870401

Install.kit, Park Distance Control,front 66202338070
Attachment 1870402
Included:
- Front PDC retrofit wiring harness
- 4x PDC Rings
- 10x cable ties (instructions specify 20x)
- Centre console control unit retrofit cable

Repair kit for bracket, bumper, front 51117324343
Attachment 1870403
Included:
- 4x PDC sensor holders
- 2x headlight washer holders
- 2x camera + PDC holders for Parking Assist

Edit 2013-07-28:
- added photos of the parts
- mention "Centre console control unit retrofit cable" and the sensor rings are included in the installation kit

Edit 2013-09-29:
- added photos of the installation and the Centre console unit

Edit 2015-05-10:
- added Centre console wiring info

Installation

Disconnect car battery!!!

I started with the Center console change.
For that we start by getting access to the console pulling the leather from the shift handle:
Attachment 1870404

Then the button unit is fixed by two plastic springs on opposite ends:
Attachment 1870405

The easiest way is to press on the top one by hand:
Attachment 1870406

then on the 2nd one with a tool on the pointed area (you have to try and feel it):
Attachment 1870407

The instructions state that a cable should connect pin 2 on the console to the ICM and on my car that was already connected.
What the instructions are missing is pin 1 and in the end the connections should be:
Centre Console <-> ICM
PIN1 GN/GE(Green/Yellow) wire <-> PIN28
PIN2 GE/BL(Yellow/Blue) <---------> PIN6 should already be connected
PIN3 <-------------------------------> PIN13 should already be connected

Notice: as you can notice from the pics of the kit, it comes with an extra 10 pin blue plug and with 2 cables, connected on pin 2 AND pin 1.

Assemble back the new console.


Front Bumper
Disassembly of the front bumper is pretty straightforward, just too many bolts
You'll have to get half of the bolts out of the front wheel inside trim to access some bolts for the bumper and disconnecting the fog lights and headlight washers if you have them.

On the guides for the PDC holders, drill the holes carefully to 18mm. Most probably you'll have to debur a little because with a perfect 18mm hole the sensors won't fit.
I tested each sensor on the hole without the holder to see when they fit perfectly
Go slow, go perfect
The PDC Holders have markings for their position: VLA, VLI, VRI and VRA
That is the order from left to right, when you're working inside the bumper
L for Left
R for Right
A for Outside
I for Inside


Firewall
Firewall access is actually pretty easy.
Start by getting the cover out of the battery connector. Has a red cover, can't miss it.
What I actually missed was a hole used for this cover, and actually used it to guide the cable through but only found that out in the end. Either way, I didn't found a better way to route the cable. Do your own analysis.
When you get the cover out you'll see 2 covers that get you access to the firewall:
Attachment 1870408

On the other end, contrary to the instructions, I didn't need to disassemble the whole Glove compartment, just the bottom right dashboard trim.
When you puncture the firewall you'll get something inside over here:
Attachment 1870409

My cable after routing it:
Attachment 1870410

Attachment 1870411

Now that the cable is inside the car, route it to the back of the car.

REM
Unplug the REM plug, get the 2 connector modules by unclipping them but be very careful, too much and it will break the sides:
Attachment 1870412
Plug the connector modules inside the plug and reconnect it to the REM again

With all plugged in, reconnect the battery.


Coding

Coding is "easy" and since it's a change in VO you won't need a token for E-SYS
My car already had Rear PDC (option 507) and I want complete PDC (option 508) so we have to change that. Look for "E-Sys - How to change FA in F-series car.pdf" on how to do that.
Afterwards the modules need to be coded.
The simplest way is "ESYS -> Expert -> Code"
Select all ECUs and on "KIS/SVT Target" press "Detect CAF for SWE"
E-SYS will calculate the changes needed for the new VO options
Afterwards press "Code" and wait around 2 minutes

Check that you have PDC working!


Hope this DIY helps someone!

I found this full retrofit kit on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-3-serie...gAAOSw4qBfhEtf

Is it all I need for this retrofit? My BMW f30 doesn't have park sensors at all, please advice
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      12-23-2020, 03:36 AM   #248
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnieb View Post
Hi all, I'm going to use this thread to document and share my experience on retrofitting Front Park Distance Control (PDC) and all necessary disassemblies on my F30.

I'm attaching EBA 2338017 which is the official installation instructions for this retrofit which applies to F30 F31 F20 and F21 .

This is the necessary parts list for a Sapphire Black F30 with a non M front Bumper:
Description Part number #
Install.kit, Park Distance Control,front 66202338070 1x
Repair kit for bracket, bumper, front 51117324343 1x
Ultrasonic sensor, black 66209261582 4x
Cable Set Front bumper 61129260019 1x
Unit, center console 61319252912 1x
Center console control unit retrofit cable (included in 66202338070)
Decoupling ring PDC torque converter 66206923000 4x (included in 66202338070)

Center console unit
Attachment 1870400

Cable Set Front bumper 61129260019
Attachment 1870401

Install.kit, Park Distance Control,front 66202338070
Attachment 1870402
Included:
- Front PDC retrofit wiring harness
- 4x PDC Rings
- 10x cable ties (instructions specify 20x)
- Centre console control unit retrofit cable

Repair kit for bracket, bumper, front 51117324343
Attachment 1870403
Included:
- 4x PDC sensor holders
- 2x headlight washer holders
- 2x camera + PDC holders for Parking Assist

Edit 2013-07-28:
- added photos of the parts
- mention "Centre console control unit retrofit cable" and the sensor rings are included in the installation kit

Edit 2013-09-29:
- added photos of the installation and the Centre console unit

Edit 2015-05-10:
- added Centre console wiring info

Installation

Disconnect car battery!!!

I started with the Center console change.
For that we start by getting access to the console pulling the leather from the shift handle:
Attachment 1870404

Then the button unit is fixed by two plastic springs on opposite ends:
Attachment 1870405

The easiest way is to press on the top one by hand:
Attachment 1870406

then on the 2nd one with a tool on the pointed area (you have to try and feel it):
Attachment 1870407

The instructions state that a cable should connect pin 2 on the console to the ICM and on my car that was already connected.
What the instructions are missing is pin 1 and in the end the connections should be:
Centre Console <-> ICM
PIN1 GN/GE(Green/Yellow) wire <-> PIN28
PIN2 GE/BL(Yellow/Blue) <---------> PIN6 should already be connected
PIN3 <-------------------------------> PIN13 should already be connected

Notice: as you can notice from the pics of the kit, it comes with an extra 10 pin blue plug and with 2 cables, connected on pin 2 AND pin 1.

Assemble back the new console.


Front Bumper
Disassembly of the front bumper is pretty straightforward, just too many bolts
You'll have to get half of the bolts out of the front wheel inside trim to access some bolts for the bumper and disconnecting the fog lights and headlight washers if you have them.

On the guides for the PDC holders, drill the holes carefully to 18mm. Most probably you'll have to debur a little because with a perfect 18mm hole the sensors won't fit.
I tested each sensor on the hole without the holder to see when they fit perfectly
Go slow, go perfect
The PDC Holders have markings for their position: VLA, VLI, VRI and VRA
That is the order from left to right, when you're working inside the bumper
L for Left
R for Right
A for Outside
I for Inside


Firewall
Firewall access is actually pretty easy.
Start by getting the cover out of the battery connector. Has a red cover, can't miss it.
What I actually missed was a hole used for this cover, and actually used it to guide the cable through but only found that out in the end. Either way, I didn't found a better way to route the cable. Do your own analysis.
When you get the cover out you'll see 2 covers that get you access to the firewall:
Attachment 1870408

On the other end, contrary to the instructions, I didn't need to disassemble the whole Glove compartment, just the bottom right dashboard trim.
When you puncture the firewall you'll get something inside over here:
Attachment 1870409

My cable after routing it:
Attachment 1870410

Attachment 1870411

Now that the cable is inside the car, route it to the back of the car.

REM
Unplug the REM plug, get the 2 connector modules by unclipping them but be very careful, too much and it will break the sides:
Attachment 1870412
Plug the connector modules inside the plug and reconnect it to the REM again

With all plugged in, reconnect the battery.


Coding

Coding is "easy" and since it's a change in VO you won't need a token for E-SYS
My car already had Rear PDC (option 507) and I want complete PDC (option 508) so we have to change that. Look for "E-Sys - How to change FA in F-series car.pdf" on how to do that.
Afterwards the modules need to be coded.
The simplest way is "ESYS -> Expert -> Code"
Select all ECUs and on "KIS/SVT Target" press "Detect CAF for SWE"
E-SYS will calculate the changes needed for the new VO options
Afterwards press "Code" and wait around 2 minutes

Check that you have PDC working!


Hope this DIY helps someone!
Hi, I found this full retrofit kit on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-3-serie...gAAOSw4qBfhEtf

Is it all I need for this retrofit? My BMW f30 doesn't have park sensors at all, please advice
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      02-27-2021, 12:20 PM   #249
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I retrofitted the front PDC on a 335i F30 that originally left the factory rear PDC only and standard sport bumpers (not M or Mtech).
But the front bumper was changed to an M3 style bumper.

The PDC works but for some reason the two outer sensors show full bars even though nothing is in front of them.

I noticed (using Bimmercode) under coding that there are many settings for type of bumpers and models.

Do I need to change anything?
Can it be affected because of the type of bumper?
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I found full PDC retrofit set on ebay for amazing price

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnieb View Post
Hi all, I'm going to use this thread to document and share my experience on retrofitting Front Park Distance Control (PDC) and all necessary disassemblies on my F30.

I'm attaching EBA 2338017 which is the official installation instructions for this retrofit which applies to F30 F31 F20 and F21 .

This is the necessary parts list for a Sapphire Black F30 with a non M front Bumper:
Description Part number #
Install.kit, Park Distance Control,front 66202338070 1x
Repair kit for bracket, bumper, front 51117324343 1x
Ultrasonic sensor, black 66209261582 4x
Cable Set Front bumper 61129260019 1x
Unit, center console 61319252912 1x
Center console control unit retrofit cable (included in 66202338070)
Decoupling ring PDC torque converter 66206923000 4x (included in 66202338070)

Center console unit
Attachment 1870400

Cable Set Front bumper 61129260019
Attachment 1870401

Install.kit, Park Distance Control,front 66202338070
Attachment 1870402
Included:
- Front PDC retrofit wiring harness
- 4x PDC Rings
- 10x cable ties (instructions specify 20x)
- Centre console control unit retrofit cable

Repair kit for bracket, bumper, front 51117324343
Attachment 1870403
Included:
- 4x PDC sensor holders
- 2x headlight washer holders
- 2x camera + PDC holders for Parking Assist

Edit 2013-07-28:
- added photos of the parts
- mention "Centre console control unit retrofit cable" and the sensor rings are included in the installation kit

Edit 2013-09-29:
- added photos of the installation and the Centre console unit

Edit 2015-05-10:
- added Centre console wiring info

Installation

Disconnect car battery!!!

I started with the Center console change.
For that we start by getting access to the console pulling the leather from the shift handle:
Attachment 1870404

Then the button unit is fixed by two plastic springs on opposite ends:
Attachment 1870405

The easiest way is to press on the top one by hand:
Attachment 1870406

then on the 2nd one with a tool on the pointed area (you have to try and feel it):
Attachment 1870407

The instructions state that a cable should connect pin 2 on the console to the ICM and on my car that was already connected.
What the instructions are missing is pin 1 and in the end the connections should be:
Centre Console <-> ICM
PIN1 GN/GE(Green/Yellow) wire <-> PIN28
PIN2 GE/BL(Yellow/Blue) <---------> PIN6 should already be connected
PIN3 <-------------------------------> PIN13 should already be connected

Notice: as you can notice from the pics of the kit, it comes with an extra 10 pin blue plug and with 2 cables, connected on pin 2 AND pin 1.

Assemble back the new console.


Front Bumper
Disassembly of the front bumper is pretty straightforward, just too many bolts
You'll have to get half of the bolts out of the front wheel inside trim to access some bolts for the bumper and disconnecting the fog lights and headlight washers if you have them.

On the guides for the PDC holders, drill the holes carefully to 18mm. Most probably you'll have to debur a little because with a perfect 18mm hole the sensors won't fit.
I tested each sensor on the hole without the holder to see when they fit perfectly
Go slow, go perfect
The PDC Holders have markings for their position: VLA, VLI, VRI and VRA
That is the order from left to right, when you're working inside the bumper
L for Left
R for Right
A for Outside
I for Inside


Firewall
Firewall access is actually pretty easy.
Start by getting the cover out of the battery connector. Has a red cover, can't miss it.
What I actually missed was a hole used for this cover, and actually used it to guide the cable through but only found that out in the end. Either way, I didn't found a better way to route the cable. Do your own analysis.
When you get the cover out you'll see 2 covers that get you access to the firewall:
Attachment 1870408

On the other end, contrary to the instructions, I didn't need to disassemble the whole Glove compartment, just the bottom right dashboard trim.
When you puncture the firewall you'll get something inside over here:
Attachment 1870409

My cable after routing it:
Attachment 1870410

Attachment 1870411

Now that the cable is inside the car, route it to the back of the car.

REM
Unplug the REM plug, get the 2 connector modules by unclipping them but be very careful, too much and it will break the sides:
Attachment 1870412
Plug the connector modules inside the plug and reconnect it to the REM again

With all plugged in, reconnect the battery.


Coding

Coding is "easy" and since it's a change in VO you won't need a token for E-SYS
My car already had Rear PDC (option 507) and I want complete PDC (option 508) so we have to change that. Look for "E-Sys - How to change FA in F-series car.pdf" on how to do that.
Afterwards the modules need to be coded.
The simplest way is "ESYS -> Expert -> Code"
Select all ECUs and on "KIS/SVT Target" press "Detect CAF for SWE"
E-SYS will calculate the changes needed for the new VO options
Afterwards press "Code" and wait around 2 minutes

Check that you have PDC working!


Hope this DIY helps someone!
BMW F30 F31 F32 F34 FULL Front Park Distance Control PDC Retrofit Kit install - https://www.ebay.com/itm/203124154694
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BMW F30 F31 F32 F34 FULL Front Park Distance Control PDC Retrofit Kit on ebay for amazing price: https://www.ebay.com/itm/203124154694
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icydubloon View Post
Just did the retrofit. As a note for others, you need to connect both of the following wires for the PDC on/off switch to work.

CC PIN1 to ICM PIN28
CC PIN2 to ICM PIN6

My (new) center console switch has the buttons for traction control, sport/eco up down buttons, and the PDC button.

If you have rear PDC, the PDC button will work without having to code front PDC. This is a nice check to perform before moving on to other parts of the install/coding.
Hallo, you write that if you have rear pdc , pdc button will work without any code.

So anyone who has rear pdc and wants to add this button just to have the choice of activate-deactivate pdc , should need any wiring done or if only new button be added it will immediately work?
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The wiring will still need doing. As soon as the wiring is in place then the PDC button will work if you have read PDC, no coding needed. But if you put the button in place without adding the wiring then the button will not work at all.
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Thank you very much, do you know if i have to change this specific wiring or it need to add two cables ? I mean only in order to work the pdc button.
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Pin 2 was already connected.
Had to connect pin 1 to pin 28 of icm to get the on off switch to work.

So you don't have the icm under the centre consul?
You are working on a F30?
So can anyone confirm please, in order to add only pdc button for activation-deactivation , it needs only a cable from pin 1 in the existing blue connector to pin 28 of icm ?
If yes, where can i find this cable with “ready” connections on it?
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