How to pass NY state inspection with catless DP

Chicken_Joe · 11-01-2016, 05:28 PM

Long story short.

Will JB4 pass emissions with catless DP? Simple answer NO!

What do I need to pass emissions with the JB4 in map 0 and a catless DP? CatSimulator module or a DP Fix.

Are there any of these devices available for the F30? YES

zinner · 11-01-2016, 06:06 PM

We should probably consult with a VW engineer on the subject. They probably have the most experience :-D

xxxjecxxx2 · 11-01-2016, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by des4rno

I have a catless DP with a JB4 on my 435 but I am not passing inspection because my 02 sensors and emissions are coming up as "Not Ready". I was told I need to change the aftermarket DP back to stock in order to get inspection. Does anyone know another way to get an inspection without going through this entire ordeal?? Otherwise I'll be spending 300 a year for inspection stickers.... -___-

Move to Florida!

J_MENIS · 11-01-2016, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zinner

We should probably consult with a VW engineer on the subject. They probably have the most experience :-D

LOL

M3AWD · 11-02-2016, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

Long story short.

Will JB4 pass emissions with catless DP? Simple answer NO!

What do I need to pass emissions with the JB4 in map 0 and a catless DP? CatSimulator module or a DP Fix.

Are there any of these devices available for the F30? YES

I would love to hear more from you (or others) about that. I am not aware of something that really works for the F30.

Chicken_Joe · 11-02-2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by M-SP0RT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

Long story short.

Will JB4 pass emissions with catless DP? Simple answer NO!

What do I need to pass emissions with the JB4 in map 0 and a catless DP? CatSimulator module or a DP Fix.

Are there any of these devices available for the F30? YES

I would love to hear more from you (or others) about that. I am not aware of something that really works for the F30.

The IO2 CatSim has been confirmed to work on the F Chassis cars.

Chicken_Joe · 11-02-2016, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by M-SP0RT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

Long story short.

Will JB4 pass emissions with catless DP? Simple answer NO!

What do I need to pass emissions with the JB4 in map 0 and a catless DP? CatSimulator module or a DP Fix.

Are there any of these devices available for the F30? YES

I would love to hear more from you (or others) about that. I am not aware of something that really works for the F30.

The IO2 CatSim has been confirmed to work on the F Chassis cars.

ClevelandBeemer · 11-02-2016, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Sorry no info on how to illegally pass emission

WE offer the VRSF DP fix which hides the catless downpipe code

I have the VSRF fix. Do you happen you have install instructions? I haven't figured out how to install on an F30 N55.

mike@x-ph.com · 11-02-2016, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBeemer

I have the VSRF fix. Do you happen you have install instructions? I haven't figured out how to install on an F30 N55.

Email VRSF for the N55 install guide

xrodrigox26 · 08-17-2018, 04:40 PM

I need that fix. can you please send it over ?

xrodrigox26 · 08-17-2018, 04:45 PM

I have an awesome (in my eyes) f30 335i xdrive I got from a guy that had it registered in Pensilvania, its fbo. with jb4, it has been nothing but complicated to try and get it inspected here In ny, I've read on the forum that the vrsf dp fix will do nd also the catsim. also mhd and bm3 will be able to pass you inspection?? please help this noob

FastF30 · 08-18-2018, 01:54 AM

so if I get a wagner catted... will it pass emissions...

wdeerfield · 08-18-2018, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FastF30

so if I get a wagner catted... will it pass emissions...

No. Only fabspeed will

Mike. · 08-18-2018, 10:07 AM

know a really good tuner who can force those pesky monitors on

FastF30 · 08-18-2018, 07:22 PM

After researching this further and I had a hunch... it's really not worth the headache to bother with a dp...... If you look at the charts at 3:29 and 3:34 you'll see a difference of only 5+hp @ 5100 rpm and torque is not much different... which is basically the rpm your car will be at while wot shifting and the difference drastically decreases after that upto it's redline shift.... so for me.... not gonna worry about changing it out... don't really care about the low end advantage as the car is more than just fine for driving around ... only real advantage would be for drag racing from a dead dig...

sspade · 08-18-2018, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FastF30

After researching this further and I had a hunch... it's really not worth the headache to bother with a dp...... If you look at the charts at 3:29 and 3:34 you'll see a difference of only 5+hp @ 5100 rpm and torque is not much different... which is basically the rpm your car will be at while wot shifting and the difference drastically decreases after that upto it's redline shift.... so for me.... not gonna worry about changing it out... don't really care about the low end advantage as the car is more than just fine for driving around ... only real advantage would be for drag racing from a dead dig...

I agree with your sentiment buttt... certain flash tunes supposedly require a catlless DP which is keeping me on the fence.

Anyone running a flash tune without a catless DP ?

FastF30 · 08-18-2018, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sspade

I agree with your sentiment buttt... certain flash tunes supposedly require a catlless DP which is keeping me on the fence.

Anyone running a flash tune without a catless DP ?

Me... lol.... Only thing I'd be worried about is if your tracking it and burning it out... an occasional wot is not gonna harm it Imo...

XxThe_RemedyXx · 08-18-2018, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sspade

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Originally Posted by FastF30

After researching this further and I had a hunch... it's really not worth the headache to bother with a dp...... If you look at the charts at 3:29 and 3:34 you'll see a difference of only 5+hp @ 5100 rpm and torque is not much different... which is basically the rpm your car will be at while wot shifting and the difference drastically decreases after that upto it's redline shift.... so for me.... not gonna worry about changing it out... don't really care about the low end advantage as the car is more than just fine for driving around ... only real advantage would be for drag racing from a dead dig...

I agree with your sentiment buttt... certain flash tunes supposedly require a catlless DP which is keeping me on the fence.

Anyone running a flash tune without a catless DP ?

I was originally running BM3 with Stage 1 93 with stock cat. Gains were great and it really woke the car up, Installed catless VRSF DP a week ago and went to Stage 2 93 AGG. Holy shit, night and day. Not only power wise but that sound! The car sounds like a monster. Real grumbly if that's even a word and the burbles are sick. For me the catless DP was totally worth it.

sspade · 08-18-2018, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FastF30

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Originally Posted by sspade

I agree with your sentiment buttt... certain flash tunes supposedly require a catlless DP which is keeping me on the fence.

Anyone running a flash tune without a catless DP ?

Me... lol.... Only thing I'd be worried about is if your tracking it and burning it out... an occasional wot is not gonna harm it Imo...

Which flash tune are you running? Im trying to make a decision and have been contemplating going with one of the "less popular" tuners like Bimmer Performance Center or Velos Designwerks.

I like being different

FastF30 · 08-18-2018, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

I was originally running BM3 with Stage 1 93 with stock cat. Gains were great and it really woke the car up, Installed catless VRSF DP a week ago and went to Stage 2 93 AGG. Holy shit, night and day. Not only power wise but that sound! The car sounds like a monster. Real grumbly if that's even a word and the burbles are sick. For me the catless DP was totally worth it.

Stage 1 to stage 2 yea that's a major jump for the tune.. FMIC/DP is a must...But on 2014+ cars with a stock 4" pipe I definitely don't see a $1400 advantage for me to buy a HF catted one and the smell wouldn't go over well in my enclosed parking garage for a catless... yes you can get a Catless to pass from what I've read ... but again for me the smell isn't worth it for me just for a little gain... as for sound... to tell you the truth... the only sound that's worth it is a v8, especially a flat plane crank.... on these no matter how you dress it up it just doesn't sound like it's worth it to me anyways from all I've heard...

FastF30 · 08-18-2018, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sspade

Which flash tune are you running? Im trying to make a decision and have been contemplating going with one of the "less popular" tuners like Bimmer Performance Center or Velos Designwerks.

I like being different

Yea I like being different also... but practical... can't beat MHD for ease of use... I'm running stage2+ 93.... car moves real good... but of course I want more... but the next step would be PS2... but I'm still contemplating it since I live in the city... can't wait to get this car up in the Pocono's Mountain... I was just there on vacation and I ran into a mustang with a blower making 650hp... the roads are so nice and twisty... Poconos race way is right there too... I was in my family SUV...

XxThe_RemedyXx · 08-18-2018, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FastF30

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Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

I was originally running BM3 with Stage 1 93 with stock cat. Gains were great and it really woke the car up, Installed catless VRSF DP a week ago and went to Stage 2 93 AGG. Holy shit, night and day. Not only power wise but that sound! The car sounds like a monster. Real grumbly if that's even a word and the burbles are sick. For me the catless DP was totally worth it.

Stage 1 to stage 2 yea that's a major jump for the tune.. FMIC/DP is a must...But on 2014+ cars with a stock 4" pipe I definitely don't see a $1400 advantage for me to buy a HF catted one and the smell wouldn't go over well in my enclosed parking garage for a catless... yes you can get a Catless to pass from what I've read ... but again for me the smell isn't worth it for me just for a little gain... as for sound... to tell you the truth... the only sound that's worth it is a v8, especially a flat plane crank.... on these no matter how you dress it up it just doesn't sound like it's worth it to me anyways from all I've heard...

I hear you man. I lived on the UES for about 15 years and was dying to get myself a fast stinky car but the parking situations sucked. Now I'm in the burbs and have a garage to park in and really don't care about the neighbors haha!

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xrodrigox26 New Member 6 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 2013 335i xdrive fbo Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: southampton 11968 iTrader: (0)	NY inspection 335i n55 fbo and jb4 I have an awesome (in my eyes) f30 335i xdrive I got from a guy that had it registered in Pensilvania, its fbo. with jb4, it has been nothing but complicated to try and get it inspected here In ny, I've read on the forum that the vrsf dp fix will do nd also the catsim. also mhd and bm3 will be able to pass you inspection?? please help this noob
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FastF30 Lieutenant Colonel 521 Rep 1,288 Posts Drives: 2015 335i xdrive Msport Mbrake Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Middle of the Road iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW 335i Xdrive [0.00]	After researching this further and I had a hunch... it's really not worth the headache to bother with a dp...... If you look at the charts at 3:29 and 3:34 you'll see a difference of only 5+hp @ 5100 rpm and torque is not much different... which is basically the rpm your car will be at while wot shifting and the difference drastically decreases after that upto it's redline shift.... so for me.... not gonna worry about changing it out... don't really care about the low end advantage as the car is more than just fine for driving around ... only real advantage would be for drag racing from a dead dig... Last edited by FastF30; 08-18-2018 at 08:02 PM..
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