FMIC choice: ER vs CSF

allen841231 · 03-11-2018, 01:29 AM

Hi guys, been looking at various intercooler options and noticed a people went with Wagner, VRSF and ER. With the CSF one being the newest but there are not much reviews on them. My questions is will the CSF fit a n20 320i? I know on various vendors website we could see 328 is listed but there are not much discussion on this particular intercooler here in the 4 bangers section. Also anyone who is knowledgeable or able to chime in with their two cents on why they would go with one or another? Thanks in advance!

bmwchue · 03-11-2018, 03:09 AM

All the same for f30 series

D041987 · 04-09-2018, 07:17 PM

There is a review on the CSF at spool street. Guess this site blocks links to other sites for whatever reason....

But when I was checking it actually outflowed the Wagner Evo 2 and ATM. Also it is used on BimmerWorld in the race series, so I think it is better option for cheaper.

BunkerJ · 04-09-2018, 11:02 PM

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There is a review on the CSF at spool street. Guess this site blocks links to other sites for whatever reason....

But when I was checking it actually outflowed the Wagner Evo 2 and ATM. Also it is used on BimmerWorld in the race series, so I think it is better option for cheaper.

It beat the Evo Comp 2?!? Damn!

FaRKle! · 04-09-2018, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by D041987

There is a review on the CSF at spool street. Guess this site blocks links to other sites for whatever reason....

But when I was checking it actually outflowed the Wagner Evo 2 and ATM. Also it is used on BimmerWorld in the race series, so I think it is better option for cheaper.

I don't believe it has better flow than the Evo 2 Comp. I own both the CSF and Evo 2 comp and the comp has noticeably less lag. With the CSF I got nothing, then a big surge once the boost kicked in. The power delivery with the Evo 2 Comp is more linear from a stop. Looking at my fuel economy meter it would drop lower with the CSF than the Wagner during the lag period till the turbo spooled up. The N47 only has a single scroll turbo, so the lag is more noticeable.

That said, the CSF is a performer, and does a very good job of keeping temps down on the street and track. It's also a very clear derivative of/heavily based on the design of the ATM, which came out more than 6mo before. If you put the two side by side and cover the logos, they look identical. The CSF has a slightly different internal fin arrangement that you have to look very closely to see, and could possibly be made of a different alloy.

Hopefully I'll have time this summer to do some good testing on the ATM, CSF, and Wagner (I purchased all three).

mike@x-ph.com · 05-03-2018, 12:17 PM

CSF intercoolers black and brushed back in stock

mike@x-ph.com · 09-15-2018, 10:51 AM

Thank you CSF for the fast delivery

If i am not mistaken, we should be the only shop that has these FMIC in black

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fiveohwblow · 09-15-2018, 09:14 PM

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Thank you CSF for the fast delivery

If i am not mistaken, we should be the only shop that has these FMIC in black

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I have the csf oil cooler for my track car, settled on this IC as well. DM me with pricing please

mike@x-ph.com · 09-16-2018, 09:27 AM

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I have the csf oil cooler for my track car, settled on this IC as well. DM me with pricing please

fiveohwblow · 09-18-2018, 11:55 AM

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Ordered from Mike, amazing service! Was responding to me on a Sunday, shipped out the following day. Couldn't have imagined better service

s3ri3s1 · 09-18-2018, 12:46 PM

the dinan on is pretty good too!

mike@x-ph.com · 09-18-2018, 02:43 PM

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Ordered from Mike, amazing service! Was responding to me on a Sunday, shipped out the following day. Couldn't have imagined better service

Thank you

fiveohwblow · 09-22-2018, 01:28 PM

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Thank you

Install went off without a hitch. Had more than the csf to install so the bumper came off. Thanks again mike!

mike@x-ph.com · 09-22-2018, 03:34 PM

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Install went off without a hitch. Had more than the csf to install so the bumper came off. Thanks again mike!

My pleasure, thank you for the picture.

mike@x-ph.com · 10-01-2018, 01:44 PM

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 10-01-2018, 08:59 PM

ER makes a great FMIC as well..

Have you looked at the Phoenix drop in F series IC!

and there is also the VRSF HD which is very good as wll.

Lots of choices out there now..

03-11-2018, 01:29 AM	#1
allen841231 Private First Class 31 Rep 174 Posts Drives: '15 MG F30 320i Near FBO Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: La Jolla iTrader: (3)	FMIC choice: ER vs CSF Hi guys, been looking at various intercooler options and noticed a people went with Wagner, VRSF and ER. With the CSF one being the newest but there are not much reviews on them. My questions is will the CSF fit a n20 320i? I know on various vendors website we could see 328 is listed but there are not much discussion on this particular intercooler here in the 4 bangers section. Also anyone who is knowledgeable or able to chime in with their two cents on why they would go with one or another? Thanks in advance! __________________ 2015 MG 320i Mods: LTMW M6 Custom Front Bumper, AWE Quad Tip w/ Performance Mid Pipe, Active Autowerke stage 2 Flash, Bilstein B14 PSS Coilovers, Injen CAI, ER Charge Pipe & Catless DP, Bavgruppe Headlights, M3 Side Skirt, M Performance Rear Bumper, LCI BMW M Performance Black Line Tail light, M Knee Rest, Coby Wheels and Dinmann CF Interior IG: AKLT320i
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D041987 Big Turbo Boys N Girls 327 Rep 579 Posts Drives: 2012 328I 6speed Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Lynnwood, WA iTrader: (0)	There is a review on the CSF at spool street. Guess this site blocks links to other sites for whatever reason.... But when I was checking it actually outflowed the Wagner Evo 2 and ATM. Also it is used on BimmerWorld in the race series, so I think it is better option for cheaper. Last edited by D041987; 04-09-2018 at 07:23 PM..
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mike@x-ph.com BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 24185 Rep 190,777 Posts Drives: 07-335/12-328/18-M4/21-M4CP Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (23)	CSF intercoolers black and brushed back in stock __________________ Check out our current sale by clicking on this link! https://x-ph.com/sale/ Phone number 702-494-9435
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mike@x-ph.com BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 24185 Rep 190,777 Posts Drives: 07-335/12-328/18-M4/21-M4CP Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (23)	Thank you CSF for the fast delivery If i am not mistaken, we should be the only shop that has these FMIC in black __________________ Check out our current sale by clicking on this link! https://x-ph.com/sale/ Phone number 702-494-9435
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mike@x-ph.com BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 24185 Rep 190,777 Posts Drives: 07-335/12-328/18-M4/21-M4CP Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (23)	__________________ Check out our current sale by clicking on this link! https://x-ph.com/sale/ Phone number 702-494-9435
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Mike@N54Tuning.com BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 4914 Rep 115,980 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	ER makes a great FMIC as well.. Have you looked at the Phoenix drop in F series IC! and there is also the VRSF HD which is very good as wll. Lots of choices out there now..
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