Dynamic Brake Force Display.

G30 B58 · 07-09-2014, 05:26 AM

I don't see this discussed here on F30POST. The BMWUSA site is hard to navigate. Is this a thing for the F3# platform?

The Dynamic Brake Force Display show drivers behind you how heavily you’re braking and allow them to react in good time. This drastically reduces the danger of a rear-end collision.

The brake lights themselves are divided into two zones. During normal braking, only one zone is illuminated. When heavy braking is detected, Brake Force Display increases the intensity of the brake lights by illuminating the second zone as well. In addition, the hazard lights are activated just before the vehicle comes to a standstill. The hazard lights are deactivated automatically when the vehicle accelerates or by pushing the button.

..... or must this be coded ......

Steve33 · 07-09-2014, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F32 N55

I don't see this discussed here on F30POST. The BMWUSA site is hard to navigate. Is this a thing for the F3# platform?

The Dynamic Brake Force Display show drivers behind you how heavily you’re braking and allow them to react in good time. This drastically reduces the danger of a rear-end collision.

The brake lights themselves are divided into two zones. During normal braking, only one zone is illuminated. When heavy braking is detected, Brake Force Display increases the intensity of the brake lights by illuminating the second zone as well. In addition, the hazard lights are activated just before the vehicle comes to a standstill. The hazard lights are deactivated automatically when the vehicle accelerates or by pushing the button.

..... or must this be coded ......

It can be coded

M-terkait · 07-09-2014, 06:57 AM

my hazard lights are activated when i brake really hard , but not sure about the part.
"increases the intensity of the brake lights by illuminating the second zone as well. In addition"

dom_power · 07-09-2014, 08:57 AM

When you brake hard, the brake lights are flickering (go on/off quickly). I noticed this once, when my rear window was very dirty and showed me the glow of the top brake light.

This is also described in the German manual (07/2013). Maybe in the US, the lights are intensified instead of flickering...

G30 B58 · 07-09-2014, 10:29 AM

Apologies, I'm speaking about a US car here.

utenigma · 07-09-2014, 02:49 PM

US cars don't have it - it's against DOT regulations - along with a lot of other useful things...

335i_4D · 07-10-2014, 12:25 PM

Like rear fog lights.

But, as mentioned, can be coded.

USC2000 · 07-10-2014, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utenigma

US cars don't have it - it's against DOT regulations - along with a lot of other useful things...

Wasn't this available on the e90, minus the hazard lights.

BooGooBird · 09-11-2015, 11:18 AM

Is it possible to code dynamic brake light as outer brake lights blink instead of inner lights?

crono06 · 09-11-2015, 12:48 PM

For us in North America, we don't get the blinking lights. When we hard brake, the inner portion (the bits on the trunk itself) will light up.

963mw · 09-11-2015, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoOoZ

Is it possible to code dynamic brake light as outer brake lights blink instead of inner lights?

Yes.

963mw · 09-11-2015, 06:44 PM

FEM_Body:

ESS_AKTIVIERBARER_AUSGANG > bremslicht_blinkend

BooGooBird · 09-11-2015, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickhelou

FEM_Body:

ESS_AKTIVIERBARER_AUSGANG > bremslicht_blinkend

This is the one I coded, but this will only enable inner light blink, the outer regular brake light would still stay on

I was trying to figure out how to get outer brake light blink too

963mw · 09-11-2015, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoOoZ

This is the one I coded, but this will only enable inner light blink, the outer regular brake light would still stay on

I was trying to figure out how to get outer brake light blink too

Are you sure? I have these settings stock as the car is Euro spec, so if it will help, I will copy paste all my ESS_ settings and post them here. Hopefully that will get it working for you

BooGooBird · 09-11-2015, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickhelou

Are you sure? I have these settings stock as the car is Euro spec, so if it will help, I will copy paste all my ESS_ settings and post them here. Hopefully that will get it working for you

Yea, pretty sure, been searching around looking for the code for years haha. With that code, it only blinks inner light, the one attached with trunk, but the outer light will stay, and just search f30 335i dynamic brake light in youtube, you will see what i was talking about. If you could please paste your code and I will check mine and see if I missed something.

Thanks!!

963mw · 09-12-2015, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoOoZ

Yea, pretty sure, been searching around looking for the code for years haha. With that code, it only blinks inner light, the one attached with trunk, but the outer light will stay, and just search f30 335i dynamic brake light in youtube, you will see what i was talking about. If you could please paste your code and I will check mine and see if I missed something.

Thanks!!

Hey,

I haven't forgotten about the settings list, but E-Sys is facing some problems following my Laptop's SSD swap. Will post shortly.

BooGooBird · 09-12-2015, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickhelou

Hey,

I haven't forgotten about the settings list, but E-Sys is facing some problems following my Laptop's SSD swap. Will post shortly.

Sounds good!

nikhil1423 · 09-12-2015, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dom_power

When you brake hard, the brake lights are flickering (go on/off quickly). I noticed this once, when my rear window was very dirty and showed me the glow of the top brake light.

This is also described in the German manual (07/2013). Maybe in the US, the lights are intensified instead of flickering...

US spec cars will illuminate the secondary lights, Euro spec will flash the secondary lights. I'm in the US and got the flashing coded. Way more useful! I've had people tell me on the road that the lights were really useful!

963mw · 09-14-2015, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BooGooBird

Sounds good!

Everything is finally in order!

963mw · 09-14-2015, 04:25 PM

ESS_BFD_VERWENDETE_LEUCHTEN

Description (Translated):
Comment = Indicates how BFD is to be represented by the tail lights
0 = BFD SEPARATE LIGHTS
1 = BFD FRAZ LIGHTS
2 = BFD TAIL LAMP

Set to: BFD_SEPERATE_LEUCHTEN (Values from ECU: Werte 00)

-----------------------------------

ESS_AKTIVIERBARER_AUSGANG

Description (Translated):
Comment = Emergency Stop Signal , Appearance:
1 - BFDII - area enlargement
2 - flashing brake light

Set to: bremslicht_blinkend (Values from ECU: Werte 02)

-----------------------------------

ESS_ZEIT_SEIT_ABS

Description (Translated):
Comment = minimum time of the ABS braking ( TABS ) after the signal image ESS is enabled .
[ Value x 50ms ]

Set to: Wert 01, Wert 02 (Values from ECU: Werte 06)

-----------------------------------

ESS_DEAKTIVIERT_BEI_NSL

Description (Translated):
Comment = suppress BFD ( surface enlargement ) with active function NSL .
Changes to this parameter must be semantically equivalent tightened in the PRIO matrix .

Set to: Nicht_aktiv (Values from ECU: Werte 00)

-----------------------------------

ESS_AKTIVIERUNG_GESCHW

Description (Translated):
Comment = speed threshold to activate the ESS [km / h]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 32)

-----------------------------------

ESS_BFD_MAX_ZEIT_US

Description (Translated):
Comment = Maximum time for BFD actively in country version US / CDN (tTimeOut ) [sec] / 0 : no time limit

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 64)

-----------------------------------

ESS_DEAKTIVIERUNG_REALE_VERZ

Description (Translated):
Comment = you disable the delay for ESS function (a delay AUS) :
Positive values correspond to negative accelerations ; [ Value x 0.5m / s ^ 2 ]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 05)

-----------------------------------

ESS_AKTIVIERUNG_REALE_VERZ

Description (Translated):
Comment = Delay for Enable use of ESS (a delay ) Function:
Positive values correspond to negative accelerations . [ Value x 0.5m / s ^ 2 ]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 0E)

-----------------------------------

ESS_VERZ_ZEIT_BL_ZU_BFDII

Description (Translated):
Comment = USA / CND : minimum delay time from stoplight to ESS ( t BL active ) in area enlargement . [ value x 50ms ]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 04)

-----------------------------------

Hope this helps!

963mw · 09-14-2015, 04:36 PM

I found some more modules, not sure if they are relevant or not, but I will post them because they have to do with lighting + brakes.

Edit: Modules posted below.

AWBL_VERBAUT

Description (Translated):
Comment = Below this speed threshold is kept the risk value for WB_GB . ESS_ECE reset ( off ) falls below this speed threshold . From this speed threshold ( upwards ) , an active WBL is ( triggered by emergency braking ) disabled . [km / h]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=0A)

-----------------------------------

WB_GB_GEFAHRENWERT_MIN

Description (Translated):
Comment = danger value 'G' , wherein the WBL is turned on when the minimum speed is not reached. [ Value x 10 ]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte 00,46)

-----------------------------------

WB_GB_DEAKTIVIERUNG_GESCHWINDIGKEIT

Description (Translated):
Comment = Speed . To turn off the WBL function (if Acceleration value can not be accepted ) [km / h]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=1E)

-----------------------------------

WB_GB_ENABLE

Description (Translated):
Comment = automatic activation WBL at GB ( ECE / US )

Set to: aktiv (Values from ECU: Werte=01)

-----------------------------------

WB_GB_AKTIVIERUNG_GESCHWINDIGKEIT

Description (Translated):
Comment = speed threshold for activating
the function warning flashing in emergency braking when ESS was previously active [km / h]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=14)

-----------------------------------

WB_GB_ERSATZ_BEI_ABS

Description (Translated):
Comment = Replacement delay in ABS - control intervention to calculate the risk value ' G' . [ Value x 0.5m / s ^ 2 ]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=0A)

-----------------------------------

WB_GB_LOESCHZEIT

Description (Translated):
Comment = time after the risk value ' G' to delete . [sec]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=03)

-----------------------------------

WB_GB_EXPONENT

Description (Translated):
Comment = exponent for warning Term ( W = a ^ exponent ) for Berechnug risk value G

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=03)

-----------------------------------

WB_GB_BESCHLEUNIGUNG

Description (Translated):
Comment = min . Acceleration in the hazard warning lights flashing again
is disabled . [ Value x 0.1m / s ^ 2 ]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=14)

-----------------------------------

Now I'm not sure which light the WBL refers to, but, it's clear that this system has something to do with BFD/Lighting/ESS. Any input would be very appreciated, as this would help expand everyone's FEM_BODY knowledge.

BooGooBird · 09-16-2015, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickhelou

ESS_BFD_VERWENDETE_LEUCHTEN

Description (Translated):
Comment = Indicates how BFD is to be represented by the tail lights
0 = BFD SEPARATE LIGHTS
1 = BFD FRAZ LIGHTS
2 = BFD TAIL LAMP

Set to: BFD_SEPERATE_LEUCHTEN (Values from ECU: Werte 00)

-----------------------------------

ESS_AKTIVIERBARER_AUSGANG

Description (Translated):
Comment = Emergency Stop Signal , Appearance:
1 - BFDII - area enlargement
2 - flashing brake light

Set to: bremslicht_blinkend (Values from ECU: Werte 02)

-----------------------------------

ESS_ZEIT_SEIT_ABS

Description (Translated):
Comment = minimum time of the ABS braking ( TABS ) after the signal image ESS is enabled .
[ Value x 50ms ]

Set to: Wert 01, Wert 02 (Values from ECU: Werte 06)

-----------------------------------

ESS_DEAKTIVIERT_BEI_NSL

Description (Translated):
Comment = suppress BFD ( surface enlargement ) with active function NSL .
Changes to this parameter must be semantically equivalent tightened in the PRIO matrix .

Set to: Nicht_aktiv (Values from ECU: Werte 00)

-----------------------------------

ESS_AKTIVIERUNG_GESCHW

Description (Translated):
Comment = speed threshold to activate the ESS [km / h]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 32)

-----------------------------------

ESS_BFD_MAX_ZEIT_US

Description (Translated):
Comment = Maximum time for BFD actively in country version US / CDN (tTimeOut ) [sec] / 0 : no time limit

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 64)

-----------------------------------

ESS_DEAKTIVIERUNG_REALE_VERZ

Description (Translated):
Comment = you disable the delay for ESS function (a delay AUS) :
Positive values correspond to negative accelerations ; [ Value x 0.5m / s ^ 2 ]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 05)

-----------------------------------

ESS_AKTIVIERUNG_REALE_VERZ

Description (Translated):
Comment = Delay for Enable use of ESS (a delay ) Function:
Positive values correspond to negative accelerations . [ Value x 0.5m / s ^ 2 ]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 0E)

-----------------------------------

ESS_VERZ_ZEIT_BL_ZU_BFDII

Description (Translated):
Comment = USA / CND : minimum delay time from stoplight to ESS ( t BL active ) in area enlargement . [ value x 50ms ]

Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 04)

-----------------------------------

Hope this helps!

This helps a lot!! Will give it a try this noon!!

Thanks man

07-09-2014, 05:26 AM	#1
G30 B58 Pace Car Driver 1548 Rep 3,164 Posts Drives: '22 AW G30 B58 M-Sport Join Date: May 2014 Location: my garage in PA iTrader: (0)	Dynamic Brake Force Display. I don't see this discussed here on F30POST. The BMWUSA site is hard to navigate. Is this a thing for the F3# platform? The Dynamic Brake Force Display show drivers behind you how heavily you’re braking and allow them to react in good time. This drastically reduces the danger of a rear-end collision. The brake lights themselves are divided into two zones. During normal braking, only one zone is illuminated. When heavy braking is detected, Brake Force Display increases the intensity of the brake lights by illuminating the second zone as well. In addition, the hazard lights are activated just before the vehicle comes to a standstill. The hazard lights are deactivated automatically when the vehicle accelerates or by pushing the button. ..... or must this be coded ...... Last edited by G30 B58; 07-09-2014 at 06:05 AM..
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crono06 Captain 127 Rep 764 Posts Drives: 2013 335i and 2018 X3 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Toronto ON iTrader: (0)	For us in North America, we don't get the blinking lights. When we hard brake, the inner portion (the bits on the trunk itself) will light up.
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963mw BMW Fanatic 331 Rep 1,076 Posts Drives: M2 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Mexico iTrader: (0)	ESS_BFD_VERWENDETE_LEUCHTEN Description (Translated): Comment = Indicates how BFD is to be represented by the tail lights 0 = BFD SEPARATE LIGHTS 1 = BFD FRAZ LIGHTS 2 = BFD TAIL LAMP Set to: BFD_SEPERATE_LEUCHTEN (Values from ECU: Werte 00) ----------------------------------- ESS_AKTIVIERBARER_AUSGANG Description (Translated): Comment = Emergency Stop Signal , Appearance: 1 - BFDII - area enlargement 2 - flashing brake light Set to: bremslicht_blinkend (Values from ECU: Werte 02) ----------------------------------- ESS_ZEIT_SEIT_ABS Description (Translated): Comment = minimum time of the ABS braking ( TABS ) after the signal image ESS is enabled . [ Value x 50ms ] Set to: Wert 01, Wert 02 (Values from ECU: Werte 06) ----------------------------------- ESS_DEAKTIVIERT_BEI_NSL Description (Translated): Comment = suppress BFD ( surface enlargement ) with active function NSL . Changes to this parameter must be semantically equivalent tightened in the PRIO matrix . Set to: Nicht_aktiv (Values from ECU: Werte 00) ----------------------------------- ESS_AKTIVIERUNG_GESCHW Description (Translated): Comment = speed threshold to activate the ESS [km / h] Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 32) ----------------------------------- ESS_BFD_MAX_ZEIT_US Description (Translated): Comment = Maximum time for BFD actively in country version US / CDN (tTimeOut ) [sec] / 0 : no time limit Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 64) ----------------------------------- ESS_DEAKTIVIERUNG_REALE_VERZ Description (Translated): Comment = you disable the delay for ESS function (a delay AUS) : Positive values correspond to negative accelerations ; [ Value x 0.5m / s ^ 2 ] Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 05) ----------------------------------- ESS_AKTIVIERUNG_REALE_VERZ Description (Translated): Comment = Delay for Enable use of ESS (a delay ) Function: Positive values correspond to negative accelerations . [ Value x 0.5m / s ^ 2 ] Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 0E) ----------------------------------- ESS_VERZ_ZEIT_BL_ZU_BFDII Description (Translated): Comment = USA / CND : minimum delay time from stoplight to ESS ( t BL active ) in area enlargement . [ value x 50ms ] Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte = 04) ----------------------------------- Hope this helps! __________________ 18 BMW M2 \| ER DP \| ER CP \| Wagner Evo 2 Comp Intercooler \| Aquamist HFS4 \| BM3 \| CSF Oil Cooler \| AFE Drop-in Filter \| Bilstein B16 PSS10
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963mw BMW Fanatic 331 Rep 1,076 Posts Drives: M2 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Mexico iTrader: (0)	I found some more modules, not sure if they are relevant or not, but I will post them because they have to do with lighting + brakes. Edit: Modules posted below. AWBL_VERBAUT Description (Translated): Comment = Below this speed threshold is kept the risk value for WB_GB . ESS_ECE reset ( off ) falls below this speed threshold . From this speed threshold ( upwards ) , an active WBL is ( triggered by emergency braking ) disabled . [km / h] Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=0A) ----------------------------------- WB_GB_GEFAHRENWERT_MIN Description (Translated): Comment = danger value 'G' , wherein the WBL is turned on when the minimum speed is not reached. [ Value x 10 ] Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte 00,46) ----------------------------------- WB_GB_DEAKTIVIERUNG_GESCHWINDIGKEIT Description (Translated): Comment = Speed . To turn off the WBL function (if Acceleration value can not be accepted ) [km / h] Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=1E) ----------------------------------- WB_GB_ENABLE Description (Translated): Comment = automatic activation WBL at GB ( ECE / US ) Set to: aktiv (Values from ECU: Werte=01) ----------------------------------- WB_GB_AKTIVIERUNG_GESCHWINDIGKEIT Description (Translated): Comment = speed threshold for activating the function warning flashing in emergency braking when ESS was previously active [km / h] Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=14) ----------------------------------- WB_GB_ERSATZ_BEI_ABS Description (Translated): Comment = Replacement delay in ABS - control intervention to calculate the risk value ' G' . [ Value x 0.5m / s ^ 2 ] Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=0A) ----------------------------------- WB_GB_LOESCHZEIT Description (Translated): Comment = time after the risk value ' G' to delete . [sec] Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=03) ----------------------------------- WB_GB_EXPONENT Description (Translated): Comment = exponent for warning Term ( W = a ^ exponent ) for Berechnug risk value G Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=03) ----------------------------------- WB_GB_BESCHLEUNIGUNG Description (Translated): Comment = min . Acceleration in the hazard warning lights flashing again is disabled . [ Value x 0.1m / s ^ 2 ] Set to: wert_01 (Values from ECU: Werte=14) ----------------------------------- Now I'm not sure which light the WBL refers to, but, it's clear that this system has something to do with BFD/Lighting/ESS. Any input would be very appreciated, as this would help expand everyone's FEM_BODY knowledge. __________________ 18 BMW M2 \| ER DP \| ER CP \| Wagner Evo 2 Comp Intercooler \| Aquamist HFS4 \| BM3 \| CSF Oil Cooler \| AFE Drop-in Filter \| Bilstein B16 PSS10 Last edited by 963mw; 09-14-2015 at 04:56 PM..
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