12-19-2021, 12:14 PM | #1 |
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Resolved: Terminal 15N error
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"Drivetrain malfunction, drive moderately" error occasionally on startup every few weeks, but then behaves perfectly normally. Error only appears on startup, and clears spontaneously after a few miles. The error never appeared with stop/start (although I've disabled that as a caution) and has never appeared while the car is driving. The following codes appear:
Solution Replace Integrated Supply Module/Power distribution module, BMW part number 12638645514 Around $100 from the usual suspects, or $30 from fleabay. I went with new due to uncertainty, were I to do it again, I'd buy a used one. Replacement notes
Idle speculation In any other car, I would guess this is a starter relay fault. Terminal 15N is post-start ignition on, and my guess is that the starter might be drawing too much power, causing the DME to brown out, causing all the above random shorts. Terminal 15N is switched by the ISM/PDM, forward electronics/fuse box, and aft electronics/fuse box. I started at the source (ISM/PDM), and the error has not reoccurred in six months. A similar (although weather-related) problem on X-series BMWs of similar vintage |
08-24-2023, 07:16 PM | #2 |
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Hi OP. Did you have start up issue? My car has no issues starting or driving but i recently got the 1B5202 – Terminal 15N_1: No voltage code. Do you recommend I swap that same part you did?
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08-25-2023, 01:59 AM | #3 |
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Waltabeast: Depends. I wouldn't throw parts at a mostly working car, as that could cause more problems than it fixes.
Do you get any other codes? Replacing that part makes sense if you're having trouble switching everything on terminal 15N. |
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08-26-2023, 11:48 AM | #4 |
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These are the 4 codes i have. I do have a catless down pipe but i don’t think the terminal is related.
12B302 Lambda probe 2 heater Bank 1, activation: Short circuit to ground 12B102 Heating lambda probe 1 bank 1, activation: short circuit to ground 138104 Exhaust flap actuator, signal line: open 1B5202 Terminal 15N _ 1: no voltage |
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02-01-2024, 03:48 PM | #7 |
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Curious, is there a way to diagnose the Integrated Supply Module/Power distribution module, BMW part number 12638645514 or do you have to replace it. I am getting a crank for a second, then dies, so is there a point to see if it is getting power.
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10-28-2024, 12:04 PM | #8 |
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Hey I have the exact same codes on my 2018 M2 LCI after doing a track session. I've ordered a new set of primary and secondary O2 sensors and pulled the ISM but before installing anything or cutting into the ISM did you end up finding out what was causing you the codes? Mine also starts and drives fine.
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