[Cruez]

Originally Posted by Mikesmith2939

It's just that I read on one of the F30 FB groups where someone bought the repair kit but the parts in the rack are totally different, including being a different size with a nut on the top rather than the three holes.

Hi, we're having this issue too. I looked and i saw a nut, not the 3 holes thing. It also have marks around showing like degrees. Does anyone know if its just tightening that nut then? With a normal socket?
Thx

[charliewaqs]

Originally Posted by ushafiq

I did a DIY replacement over the weekend on my 435xd - highly recommend getting the tool otherwise very difficult to undo the cover plate - also, the removal tool I got from eBay (£20) needed a 24mm combination spanner - tried using the socket and pin pliers but not enough space. Regarding tightening, the original cover plate (factory installed) was flush with the housing so after undoing and installing the replacement kit (Part number 32106891974), I just tightened it enough so that cover plate sit flush again - and job done - no issues and steering feels perfect and noise gone. I want to point out that I had no noise during driving but could hear lot of clunk when I moved the steering with car was switched off therefore decided to replace it with repair kit.

Link to removal tool? Might tackle this soon.

[Watsey]

Originally Posted by charliewaqs

Link to removal tool? Might tackle this soon.

I bought this one - fits the 'nut' perfectly.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324055448665

[charliewaqs]

Originally Posted by Watsey

I bought this one - fits the 'nut' perfectly.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324055448665

Perfect thanks mate. Is there enough room to get a socket on that tool and torque to spec?

[charliewaqs]

Real tight down there. Got the old one out with a spanner and got the new one with spanner and then managed to torque right at the end.

[Watsey]

Originally Posted by charliewaqs

Perfect thanks mate. Is there enough room to get a socket on that tool and torque to spec?

Sorry, been busy.

[Watsey]

Originally Posted by charliewaqs

Real tight down there. Got the old one out with a spanner and got the new one with spanner and then managed to torque right at the end.

Well done. I just tightened the nut on mine around 1/8th of a turn. The knocking has reduced but not disappeared, and it's only added a little stiction to the steering.

[Racing Teatray]

This is interesting - mine has just developed a knock on full lock (but only on full lock and irrespective of which way the wheels are turned). Happens both going forwards and in reverse. Is this likely to be the same thing.

Need to go and rock my steering wheel I guess. Due in next week to finally get the winter wheels taken off, so can ask Park Lane to check.

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by Watsey

Well done. I just tightened the nut on mine around 1/8th of a turn. The knocking has reduced but not disappeared, and it's only added a little stiction to the steering.

Hmm.. I think given the choice between a slight knock if I rock the steering wheel Left and right (which you shouldn’t do anyway) and added stiction I’d keep the slight knock. Considering I’ve found a large percentage of cars on the road over say 6 years or so old seem to have a slight knock on the steering if you rock the steering wheel left and right moderately hard.

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by Racing Teatray

This is interesting - mine has just developed a knock on full lock (but only on full lock and irrespective of which way the wheels are turned). Happens both going forwards and in reverse. Is this likely to be the same thing.

Need to go and rock my steering wheel I guess. Due in next week to finally get the winter wheels taken off, so can ask Park Lane to check.

Sounds different. The usual knock on these cars is when you rock the steering wheel left and right. It’s common for it to knock with the engine off and less common for it to also do it a bit with the engine running.

[Racing Teatray]

Originally Posted by Hooded

Sounds different. The usual knock on these cars is when you rock the steering wheel left and right. It’s common for it to knock with the engine off and less common for it to also do it a bit with the engine running.

It isn't different. Rocking the steering wheel with the engine off makes exactly the noise in the video.

A bit of investigating has also shown that it only happens with the steering on full lock to the left (and happens either in Drive or Reverse). If you drive the car in a circle on full lock, it's a kind regular clacking noise like some component has come loose and is catching and releasing as the wheel rotates.

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by Racing Teatray

It isn't different. Rocking the steering wheel with the engine off makes exactly the noise in the video.

A bit of investigating has also shown that it only happens with the steering on full lock to the left (and happens either in Drive or Reverse). If you drive the car in a circle on full lock, it's a kind regular clacking noise like some component has come loose and is catching and releasing as the wheel rotates.

Of course it’s different. ^Some of what you describe is completely different to the COMMON problem when it ONLY knocks when you rock the steering wheel left and right.

I’ve highlighted the parts that describe a different problem to the common one. Although it sounds like you have 2 problems going on there, the common problem with the knock off the pinion and a mystery problem that is completely different and could be unrelated.

I would get it looked at.

[Racing Teatray]

Originally Posted by DriveS

I have a knocking on my steering when engine is off and you rock the wheel back and forth. Also a ticking when manoeuvring when wheel is past 50% of travel.

See this video

[...]

The noise I have is identical to this.

He talks about a retro fit kit brought out by BMW to solve the issue. Part number 32106891974. Previously BMW had been replacing the entire rack to solve this issue. I think the kit was brought out some time in 2018.

In comments someone says that they took their car to a specialist and they tightened the cover plate by 1/8 turn and it solved this issue, although the video maker does not recommend this.

Here is the tool

[...]

I am going to buy the tool and tighten the plate.

Questions

1. Has anyone else done this and solved the issue?
2. How to you access the cover plate? Mine cant be seen as in the video as its a different engine. I am assuming you can get access to it by putting the car on ramps and taking off the under cover?

See in bold above in the OP. Seems similar to me?

It is being checked out - car's going in on Friday morning to get it looked at under warranty.

As regards the part number quoted above, I enquired about it with Battersea BMW's parts department, who repliedby email: "This kit is listed in our parts system as a ‘solution for vehicles with acoustic irregularities’, there are repair instructions that our workshop team would need to follow for warranty purposes to justify this but we’d need to leave it to them to run the procedure."

We shall see.

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by Racing Teatray

See in bold above in the OP. Seems similar to me?

It is being checked out - car's going in on Friday morning to get it looked at under warranty.

As regards the part number quoted above, I enquired about it with Battersea BMW's parts department, who repliedby email: "This kit is listed in our parts system as a ‘solution for vehicles with acoustic irregularities’, there are repair instructions that our workshop team would need to follow for warranty purposes to justify this but we’d need to leave it to them to run the procedure."

We shall see.

The Knocking when rocking the steering is common on these but the ticking noise isn’t. Half the used cars at the main dealers will knock if you rock the steering left and right with the engine off, in fact there was a post quite a long time ago about that, someone checked cars at the dealers and quite a few of them knocked with the engine off.

Your problem sounds more severe than the common knock while rocking the steering that these cars get. I reckon it’s either a progression of the problem where extra symptoms have developed or there’s something else going on as well.

If it’s under warranty you’ll get a new rack fitted.

[Racing Teatray]

How does anyone notice the knock when rocking the steering with the engine off? It's not something I ever do to my car?

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by Racing Teatray

How does anyone notice the knock when rocking the steering with the engine off? It's not something I ever do to my car?

It seems it must be something some people do. I guess because it’s a common issue some people check theirs after hearing about the problem on a forum like this.

Personally I don’t think you should be doing that anyway though, it’s not designed to be rocked left and right while stationary, particularly with the engine off, but I wouldn’t personally be concerned if mine did it with the engine off and it wasn’t knocking at all whilst actually driving the car!

[Cruez]

Does anyone who has experienced this issue noted that this was outside temperature related?
My car only makes a knocking sound when its hot, the morning after knocking is gone...
not sure if its the steering rack part. Car goes in for checkup next week.

[Eddamoo]

Originally Posted by Racing Teatray

How does anyone notice the knock when rocking the steering with the engine off? It's not something I ever do to my car?

I noticed mine when cleaning the car. Just wiping the steering wheel with a soapy cloth caused it to knock on both mine and the Mrs' cars!

[Racing Teatray]

Just back from dropping the car off, and as I was demonstrating the clacking sound to the service guy by turning the car in the drop-off area while he stood nearby, a passing technician called out "sounds like a loose brake shield"...

Let's see. I asked them to also rock the steering and check that knock.

[Racing Teatray]

So, just had an update. To quote from the email I got from the service consultant, the cause is "the lower damper fitted in the upper section of the steering rack, which we are replacing".

[ndshgyta]

Originally Posted by Cruez

Does anyone who has experienced this issue noted that this was outside temperature related?
My car only makes a knocking sound when its hot, the morning after knocking is gone...
not sure if its the steering rack part. Car goes in for checkup next week.

My also knocking only when it is hot, Cruez do you have more information?

[Cruez]

Originally Posted by ndshgyta

My also knocking only when it is hot, Cruez do you have more information?

Originally Posted by ndshgyta

My also knocking only when it is hot, Cruez do you have more information?

Hi have to go this evening, my car has 90000 kms. Read on a forum that it can be a rubber bushing that fails in hot weather.
I also read that there can be issues with some mounting screws on the steering rack. And that they did a recall for this? Anyone more info? Thx