[JD6]

Originally Posted by teaston

They don’t say that the British and Americans saved their arses!?

I think that bit must have slipped their mind! I was there with some of my French family who didn't bat an eyelid at this version of history...

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by gr4z

This does my head in. People who move to the right hand lane. Indicate right. Then go straight on.

YOU ARE NOT GOING RIGHT FFS.

Am I right to vent?

Those people would have fun in Milton Keynes where 3 lanes approaching are the norm and the arrows give you a clue which lane to be in...

[mikeoz]

Originally Posted by JD6

I think that bit must have slipped their mind! I was there with some of my French family who didn't bat an eyelid at this version of history...

To be fair they are just doing a Hollywood version of ww2...you know
The one where the US won the Battle of Britain and also broke Enigma.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by JD6

Incidentally you really should take the tour of the building which is a kind of museum - the way they portray the second world war and other great French victories is hilarious in the way it rewrites history. Kim Jong-un would be proud.

Success has many fathers whereas failure is an orphan.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by mikeoz

To be fair they are just doing a Hollywood version of ww2...you know
The one where the US won the Battle of Britain and also broke Enigma.

Yep, when we really need to be thankful to all these foreign pilots who flew along side our boys in defence of the UK during the battle of Britain:


Poland 145
New Zealand 135
Canada 112
Czechoslovakia 88
Belgium 30
Australia 32
South Africa 25
France 14
Ireland 10
United States 11
Southern Rhodesia 4
Jamaica Jamaica 1
Barbados 1
Newfoundland 1
Northern Rhodesia 1

[djcowlin]

Originally Posted by JD6

Yes. The best place to try this out is Place Charles de Gaulle which is the huge roundabout which surrounds the Arc de Triomphe with 12 exits. It takes a bit of nerve but you can sail straight out and the cars on the roundabout stop in a neat curve. Best done in a company car you don't give a shit about or a hire car with zero excess!

This rule also applies when joining the Périphérique motorway around Paris. A little disconcerting when you're already on the motorway and are expected to give way to joining traffic.

[RobUK]

Rant away...

Improper use (or non-use) of indicators is just one example of the utter stupidity one sees every single day on our roads.

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by R0bbo

Local to me we have the 'magic roundabout' in Hemel Hempstead. Some learners have had to set up camp in the middle as they can't get off it.

We've got a magic roundabout in Swindon, which can be fun at times.

[RobUK]

Originally Posted by JD6

Yes. The best place to try this out is Place Charles de Gaulle which is the huge roundabout which surrounds the Arc de Triomphe with 12 exits.

Child's play. Even Tom Cruise can ride a bike round it the wrong way

[RobUK]

Originally Posted by dopper99

We've got a magic roundabout in Swindon, which can be fun at times.

The 'architect' who designed that should be sacked. Just enlarge the middle bit and make it a regular roundabout.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by RobUK

The 'architect' who designed that should be sacked. Just enlarge the middle bit and make it a regular roundabout.

I lived in Wiltshire when the magic roundabout was introduced. Not as simple as a large roundabout. Debated to death, but really a clever solution to congestion. The intention was to speed flows and save delays. You sort of bypass some disruption. It does work, been over it hundreds of times in all directions.

Biggest issue is if folks don't signal their intentions. Then that is not new...

[qa15ar]

Originally Posted by R0bbo

Local to me we have the 'magic roundabout' in Hemel Hempstead. Some learners have had to set up camp in the middle as they can't get off it.

Ah the magic roundabout i know it well

[gr4z]

Originally Posted by dopper99

We've got a magic roundabout in Swindon, which can be fun at times.

Ah yes, always fun (working at Nationwide at the moment, so regulalry go around this place).

[hilift]

Originally Posted by teaston

These really aren’t complicated though, there’s 3 lanes coming up to the roundabout and there’s 3 lanes on the roundabout so I just don’t understand why so many people cut across lanes like this!

the NDR is an awful piece of civil engineering !! so many flaws .
the lanes are not flowing on roundabouts ,encouraging cutting across lanes, the cambers are wrong , the signage is atrocious .
and really people need to learn how to use a dual carriageway , even if it seems like its the road to nowhere .

it was built on the cheap and is not of the same calibre as the southern bypass .

[teaston]

Originally Posted by hilift

the NDR is an awful piece of civil engineering !! so many flaws .
the lanes are not flowing on roundabouts ,encouraging cutting across lanes, the cambers are wrong , the signage is atrocious .
and really people need to learn how to use a dual carriageway , even if it seems like its the road to nowhere .

it was built on the cheap and is not of the same calibre as the southern bypass .

Absolutely, it's a carnage zone!

[pmgreenwood]

Originally Posted by gr4z

This does my head in. People who move to the right hand lane. Indicate right. Then go straight on.

YOU ARE NOT GOING RIGHT FFS.

Am I right to vent?

There are some roundabouts with 2 lane approach where on the road or road signs, the left lane is marked turn left and the right lane straight on and turn right. If on the approach to the roundabout the car was initial in the inner lane, signaled right to move to the outer lane, I see nothing wrong as long as he cancelled right signal after completing the move to right lane.

[Alscoob]

Most drivers just don't have a clue and don't even look at the road sign or the lane direction arrows at all, lack of driver concentration and jabbering away to the passenger and just wander about aimlessly.

...and then there are those who were taught to indicate right then left when roundabouts first came out and haven't moved on in life or updated their skills .... if any.

Agree with OP drives me mad !! just like the numpties on a motorway, indicate once then think they have the right to just pull out in front of you.... and those that have an aversion of using the inside lane.

[RobUK]

Drivers in lane #1 'apexing' two lane roundabouts seems to be a favourite.