08-27-2020, 08:08 AM | #727 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
945
Rep 1,762
Posts |
If it was linear after 100k with an additional year then it would have been great. Example 100-110k/9 years 30% or something like that
__________________
Tensioner/belt DIY | Side skirt extension DIY
Apex SM-10/DWS06+ | 400m/X-ice Xi3 | Injen Exhaust | Stoptech SS Lines | 335 Front Brakes Hawk HPS 5.0 | RBF600 | ER Charge Pipes | Wagner Evo Comp 2 FMIC |
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 08:35 AM | #728 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
945
Rep 1,762
Posts |
Btw, for the job do the oil pan bolts HAVE to be replaced? That would save around $70 on cost, but if it has to be changed then it is what it is.
__________________
Tensioner/belt DIY | Side skirt extension DIY
Apex SM-10/DWS06+ | 400m/X-ice Xi3 | Injen Exhaust | Stoptech SS Lines | 335 Front Brakes Hawk HPS 5.0 | RBF600 | ER Charge Pipes | Wagner Evo Comp 2 FMIC |
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 09:08 AM | #729 |
Lieutenant Colonel
1303
Rep 1,626
Posts |
Well, based on the terms of this settlement it appears that many forum members were right when they claim that BMW considers "lifetime" as 100k. So 'lifetime' anything (fluids, components, etc) should be considered to have a life of 100k?
__________________
2020 M550i (G30) | Carbon Black/Black Nappa | DHP | DAP | Executive | Luxury Seating | Park Asst | Ceramic Controls | Front/Rear Heated Seats | 20" 668M wheels
2021 X3 (G02) | Dark Graphite Metallic/Cognac | Premium | DAP | Front/Rear Heated Seats Sold/Retired: 2012 328i (F30) |
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 09:59 AM | #730 |
Second Lieutenant
168
Rep 268
Posts |
LOL.....3 years later and settlement that still has us potentially paying 60% out of pocket for a defect......
I didn't expect much from this so I'm not disappointed. My timing chain is fine. I check it often with an endoscope. If it dies, it dies. This is a bad situation all the way around. Good luck to all! |
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 10:26 AM | #731 |
New Member
3
Rep 5
Posts |
The way I read it...
Hi all
It seems there are a number of different conditions. First, this applies to cars generally from 2012-2015 depending on model. From doc. 72-3 pages 15 and on: ------------------------------------ FOR THOSE THAT ALREADY HAVE PAID FOR REPAIR Based on repair dates vs. service dates: III.A.1 - If you had the engine or parts replaced before the 7-year/70K extension then you get reimbursement 100% dealer / $3k chain / $7.5k motor III.A.2. - If the failure took place after the 7-year/70k extension and before 8-year/100k, then there's a table with sliding scale from 75%-40% of reimbursement which starts at 75% reimbursed with caps. FOR PROSPECTIVE (FUTURE) REPAIR III.B.1. - If you have failure before the 7-year/70K then you get reimbursement 100% at dealer III.B.2. - Repairs after 7-year/70k and before 8-year/100k mark, reimbursement will apply under a similar sliding scale from 75%-40% of reimbursement which starts at 75% (reimbursed with no caps?). III.B.3. - For one year after effective date regardless of age but under 100k, reimbursement at the dealer will apply under a similar sliding scale from 75%-40% of reimbursement which starts at 75% (reimbursed with no caps?). ------------------------------------ So in summary: 1.If you've already paid for the repair, I'm sure most of the cases have been for under 70k cars. This is wonderful for those horror stories of 40k cars that had to pay thousands for new engines. 2. If you repaired into later years/mileage then comments above about 100k 'lifetime' apply because of the sliding scale. 3. The prospective program expands the same coverage to future repair as (1) and (2), except for the additional one year extension regardless of age but capped at 100k miles which may cover certain 2013 models beyond their natural 8-year limit because his coverage starts on the effective date which is yet to be established. I ask that others that are combing through the details please double-check my summary. |
08-27-2020, 10:55 AM | #732 |
Private First Class
141
Rep 145
Posts |
One piece of certainty is the 100,000 mile limit no matter anything else.
My car failed at 101,000 miles... it will be interesting to see if the BMW rep will assist in this or not when the time comes. The car has been 'disabled' since April 2019. |
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 01:34 PM | #733 |
David
786
Rep 2,009
Posts |
FCP euro prices fluctuate a lot from what I've seen, I bought a ZF trans kit in 2018 for like $190, a few months ago it was close to $300, now its back to $214
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 01:46 PM | #734 | |
First Lieutenant
125
Rep 326
Posts |
Quote:
This is what the lawyers were pushing for based on what I read.
__________________
If you can imagine it, you can achieve it.
If you can dream it, you can become it. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 02:17 PM | #735 |
Captain
724
Rep 943
Posts
Drives: F30 328i Msport
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: WA
|
so if i'm reading this correctly, since my 2015 is just over 80k miles, I will only be covered for 55% of the repair and I'll have to pony up the remaining 45% IF the dealership does diagnose correctly a timing chain issue?
thats disappointing as fk. |
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 03:31 PM | #736 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
945
Rep 1,762
Posts |
Yup....
__________________
Tensioner/belt DIY | Side skirt extension DIY
Apex SM-10/DWS06+ | 400m/X-ice Xi3 | Injen Exhaust | Stoptech SS Lines | 335 Front Brakes Hawk HPS 5.0 | RBF600 | ER Charge Pipes | Wagner Evo Comp 2 FMIC |
Appreciate
1
RMachuca3d723.50 |
08-27-2020, 06:32 PM | #737 | |
First Lieutenant
167
Rep 378
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 06:37 PM | #738 | |
First Lieutenant
167
Rep 378
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 08:33 PM | #740 | ||
Captain
339
Rep 660
Posts
Drives: 2014-320Xi / 2017-330Xi
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Northwest
|
Quote:
Or, you can also pay a relatively high price for a preventive and safety retro fit (replace the TC and poor plastic rails) to address the problem created by BMW. Seems a good way to burn money. Don't you agree, this is TOO MUCH SHIT for a problem that is undeniably a poor design, a lack of common sense, and the greedy race for cost reductions at BMW? If you are happy with this shit... I'm definitely not. If you are happy with the shit of resale value of your car dropping even more because your car is subject to TC problem, and the risk to replace the WHOLE ENGINE, I'm definitely not... I would not buy a BMW with N20 engine never more. |
||
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 08:34 PM | #741 | |
Private
23
Rep 88
Posts |
Quote:
Unrelated to the above, I haven't read through the whole document but wondering if it says anything regarding preventative change? |
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 08:51 PM | #742 |
Captain
339
Rep 660
Posts
Drives: 2014-320Xi / 2017-330Xi
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Northwest
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 09:55 PM | #743 |
Major
1735
Rep 1,237
Posts |
I wondered if I'd regret my BM3 tune because it would void any possible timing chain warranty extension.
Glad I went ahead and did it. My car would only be covered till 3/2021 anyway. Might just pay to have it done at my indy if I'm gonna keep it much longer than that. My quote with valve covers included was $2400
__________________
2023 M2. ZB. Manual.
2024 m235i |
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2020, 10:01 PM | #744 |
Private First Class
141
Rep 145
Posts |
PACER entries for 8/27/2020:
Full docket text for document 73: BRIEF In Support of Preliminary Approval re [72] Motion by All Plaintiffs. (Attachments: # (1) Letter to Judge Waldor with Corrected Brief)(GRAIFMAN, GARY) Modified on 8/27/2020 (dam, ). Full docket text: Set Deadlines as to [72] Plaintiffs' MOTION for Settlement and Preliminary Approval. Motion set for 9/21/2020 before Magistrate Judge Cathy L. Waldor. Unless otherwise directed by the Court, this motion will be decided on the papers and no appearances are required. Note that this is an automatically generated message from the Clerk's Office and does not supersede any previous or subsequent orders from the Court. (dam, ) |
Appreciate
0
|
08-28-2020, 05:32 AM | #745 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
945
Rep 1,762
Posts |
Purchased the kit off FCP. Will get it in in a month or two.
__________________
Tensioner/belt DIY | Side skirt extension DIY
Apex SM-10/DWS06+ | 400m/X-ice Xi3 | Injen Exhaust | Stoptech SS Lines | 335 Front Brakes Hawk HPS 5.0 | RBF600 | ER Charge Pipes | Wagner Evo Comp 2 FMIC |
Appreciate
0
|
08-28-2020, 07:10 AM | #746 |
Enlisted Member
39
Rep 40
Posts |
TOTALLY Agree!! and don't forget that the turbos on these things start going out right after 50k miles, which is another $3000-5000 repair that is not covered under anything, (except if you are in CA you get the emissions warranty until 70k). No matter what, modern BMWs are disposable...
__________________
BMW CCA 475714
|
08-28-2020, 08:27 AM | #747 |
Private First Class
87
Rep 146
Posts |
Agreed - 80/8 is a pretty useless settlement. Would urge folks to contact the attorney handling this.
https://www.kgglaw.com/attorneys/gary-s-graifman-esq/ |
Appreciate
0
|
08-28-2020, 11:49 AM | #748 |
First Lieutenant
167
Rep 378
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|