[JaredG_F30]

When they say "undetectable," I think they mean by visual inspection. If I went this route I'd definitely go custom tune. I just don't know if there is enough in the stock fueling to support it.

Originally Posted by FastF30

Yea... lucky you... when I saw that ... I went "Figures"... the site says it's undetectable... so means uses a stock tune?... wondering what would happen when a Flash tune is involved if that's the case to begin with concerning being used with a stock tune...

The reason I'm more interested in this than a bigger turbo has to do with the streetability lag issue...

if both a large turbo and this one raced in a 1/8mile (100mph) and both pushing 500whp... I beat stage1 one would win due to spool-up response...

and who's crazy enough to race over a 100mph on the street... I'm sure many... but not me...

[ChrisFulton]

Originally Posted by ceedawg

New Single turbo kits for the N55. VTT is one of the vendors. Google it. Thats all I will say for now till the other is 100 percent confirmed.

Stop teasing ceedawg. Can you at least give us an idea if it's another turbo upgrade option, fuel pump, faux carbon fiber gas cap, or what?

[bradsm87]

Originally Posted by FastF30

Yea... lucky you... when I saw that ... I went "Figures"... the site says it's undetectable... so means uses a stock tune?... wondering what would happen when a Flash tune is involved if that's the case to begin with concerning being used with a stock tune...

The reason I'm more interested in this than a bigger turbo has to do with the streetability lag issue...

if both a large turbo and this one raced in a 1/8mile (100mph) and both pushing 500whp... I beat stage1 one would win due to spool-up response...

and who's crazy enough to race over a 100mph on the street... I'm sure many... but not me...

If you already have an EWG turbo, gains to Stage 1 are very, very minimal. Stage 1 turbos are very similar to stock EWG turbos. A tiny bit bigger on the compressor side but it's enlarging the turbine that really wakes them up.

[ceedawg]

Originally Posted by FastF30

Is their website correct.... New Stage1 turbo for basically $1475... I'm all in for that...

To bad their in Cali or I would definitely have them install it for another $2500... sounds like a great set-up for under $3,975

Or is there something else coming out...

this is very interesting about oil they recommend...

Attachment 1905755

Nope keep reading till you get to N55 turbo kit big difference from what’s on their website. They have not posted the new kit up on their website yet still doing R&D.

https://bmw.***********.com/threads/...e-thread.2791/

[insanecoder]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

M3 is nice, but some of us refuse to own four door cars. Never had one, never will

M4

[ceedawg]

Originally Posted by bradsm87

If you already have an EWG turbo, gains to Stage 1 are very, very minimal. Stage 1 turbos are very similar to stock EWG turbos. A tiny bit bigger on the compressor side but it's enlarging the turbine that really wakes them up.

Check link post in bottom of 48

Originally Posted by JaredG_F30

When they say "undetectable," I think they mean by visual inspection. If I went this route I'd definitely go custom tune. I just don't know if there is enough in the stock fueling to support it.

I think VTT and the other company that will soon introduce their setup will deal with the fueling issue to take advantage of the power potential of their turbo setups. They will have a tune for it as well,at least I know VTT will be using BM3.

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by ceedawg

Nope keep reading till you get to N55 turbo kit big difference from what’s on their website. They have not posted the new kit up on their website yet still doing R&D.

https://bmw.***********.com/threads/...e-thread.2791/

I was hoping for a PS1.5 type... this may be too much for me.... lol...500whp is about the highest I want to go... just concerned about street lag and interested in something in that area of 500Hp for reliability etc...

[bradsm87]

Originally Posted by ceedawg

Check link post in bottom of 48

That's nothing like what I'm after lol.

[bradsm87]

Originally Posted by FastF30

I was hoping for a PS1.5 type... this may be too much for me.... lol...500whp is about the highest I want to go... just concerned about street lag and interested in something in that area of 500Hp for reliability etc...

500whp is a huge amount of power. You gotta drop the power goal if you want awesome response and nice safe power at a sensible boost level. Turbo vendors advertised power levels and example cases where the turbos are pushed way, way too hard should not be taken seriously at all.

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by bradsm87

500whp is a huge amount of power. You gotta drop the power goal if you want awesome response and nice safe power at a sensible boost level. Turbo vendors advertised power levels and example cases where the turbos are pushed way, way too hard should not be taken seriously at all.

Okay... what's the max WHP the stock fuel system can reliably handle...

[ceedawg]

Originally Posted by bradsm87

500whp is a huge amount of power. You gotta drop the power goal if you want awesome response and nice safe power at a sensible boost level. Turbo vendors advertised power levels and example cases where the turbos are pushed way, way too hard should not be taken seriously at all.

The other company is offering 450whp plus and with different size turbos for different power levels. Will also be EWG but I did not ask about pwg but I am sure they will address. A 500whp turbo like a GTX30 does not have to run insane psi to make that whp and can also make that power on 18 or so psi and 93 octane.. A PS2 on the other hand has to run 20 plus psi to make that type of whp and meth and or plus E85 and tons of back pressure which affects longevity and your engine long term.

[bradsm87]

Originally Posted by FastF30

Okay... what's the max WHP the stock fuel system can reliably handle...

I don't really know because these USA Dynojet numbers are so far off the numbers I'm used to. You may not be limited by the stock fuel system if you want a really responsive turbo and to run it at sensible boost and safety. If you want to max the stock fuel system, get a PS2 or a TTE550 and gradually tune at higher and higher boost targets until HPFP drops below an acceptable level then drop boost target a bit.

[bradsm87]

Originally Posted by ceedawg

The other company is offering 450whp plus and with different size turbos for different power levels. Will also be EWG but I did not ask about pwg but I am sure they will address. A 500whp turbo like a GTX30 does not have to run insane psi to make that whp and can also make that power on 18 or so psi and 93 octane.. A PS2 on the other hand has to run 20 plus psi to make that type of whip.

You've been drinking the full cast replacement Kool-Aid way, way too hard LOL.

The standard manifold and housings with the reverse rotation core are excellent and I don't want a turbo as big as a GTX3076R anyway and want 100% stock appearance. Stock housings are great for a turbine around 57/51mm and a compressor around 54/71mm.

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by bradsm87

You've been drinking the full cast replacement Kool-Aid way, way too hard LOL.

The standard manifold and housings with the reverse rotation core are excellent and I don't want a turbo as big as a GTX3076R anyway and want 100% stock appearance. Stock housings are great for a turbine around 57/51mm and a compressor around 54/71mm.

Okay... Okay... so at this point what are you looking for that exists and/or hope to exist...

[bradsm87]

Originally Posted by FastF30

Okay... Okay... so at this point what are you looking for that exists and/or hope to exist...

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1533984

There is nothing that exists off-the-shelf. I'm thinking of just selling the car TBH. Unfortunately this particular platform's market is made up of drag racers and roll racers, obsessed with dyno numbers, who choose their turbos based on their advertised peak power number.

Turbo vendors are just feeding the demand of these all-out power customers and are happy with their sales. They're unwilling to put something out there in between "Stage 1" and "Stage 2".

Mamba make what looks like a compelling sized turbine but nobody has made it into a complete turbo yet. It would go very well paired with say a VTT Stg1 or PS1 compressor. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MAMBA-9-...7/173460084348

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by bradsm87

Mamba make what looks like a compelling sized turbine but nobody has made it into a complete turbo yet. It would go very well paired with say a VTT Stg1 or PS1 compressor. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MAMBA-9-...7/173460084348

Gotcha ya.. .... Well I'm sure vendors will get a smell of these threads and see there is a market for this size turbo... so hopefully we should see something in 6-12months...

is anybody running this at all... total custom turbo looks like... machining required...

[bradsm87]

Originally Posted by FastF30

Gotcha ya.. .... Well I'm sure vendors will get a smell of these threads and see there is a market for this size turbo... so hopefully we should see something in 6-12months...

I've been on to them for years about exactly this so I wouldn't hold your breath. It's easier for them to sell very cheap to manufacture stock turbine (a.k.a. Stage 1) turbos or sell big turbos to the dyno number chasers. They don't care about those that are looking for what we're looking for. They'll just try and steer you to one of their existing turbos.

[ceedawg]

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Originally Posted by bradsm87

You've been drinking the full cast replacement Kool-Aid way, way too hard LOL.

The standard manifold and housings with the reverse rotation core are excellent and I don't want a turbo as big as a GTX3076R anyway and want 100% stock appearance. Stock housings are great for a turbine around 57/51mm and a compressor around 54/71mm.

lol You can believe what you please that is ok . Opinions are like A holes everybody has one.
I gave you an example of what one company is offering by a link I posted. You fail to mention how I posted about another company that would have other offerings might I add The same company which is experienced in road racing more M2s than any other company I have seen on here concerning these forums to the best of my knowledge. You know what they say when you ASS ume! �� They will have setups for both style of racing only much better than the stock setup and PS2 hybrid turbos.

S55 induction setup > N55. ,N54 induction setup > N55, B58 induction setup> N55

M2 competition comes out 2k18, out goes the anemic N55 due to induction setup emissions so they say and in goes what? The S55, closed deck,better induction setup! Will be a more powerful track car. So.....

Be patient or sell if you like.

PS I am into road racing and drag racing so I own different cars for different events. If you are happy with the stock turbo on the N55 that is fine. It’s equal to the size of one of the TT on the 94 to 99 twin turbo Supra. It’s terribly undersized to run more boost than it was designed for and many with these tunes are running them out of their efficiency level.

Believe what you want,ASS-ume what you want! I have been into modded turbocharged 6 cylinder cars since 1982 a big fan of Bob Sharp’s and owned one of those cars factory (280 ZX turbo owned in 1987 and modified power wise and for road racing) too if you know whom I am referring to hint hintI am sure I have now revealed my age Have a long biography of owning different turbo charged cars and surely do not feel like getting into it. So no no kool aide here

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by ceedawg

I posted about another company that would have other offerings
Be patient

You mentioned 450+.. very interested... waiting sucks...

[ceedawg]

Originally Posted by FastF30

You mentioned 450+.. very interested... waiting sucks...

Believe me I kept asking but nothing I can do but be patient

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by insanecoder

M4

Truly do appreciate your help. Test drove the M4 and found the steering 'feel' to be a complete and unmitigated disaster. It also felt like the car was trying too hard to FEEL fast instead of actually being fast. Have owned Ferrari, Bentley (never again!), F250 SuperDuty Off-Road (for true off-road fun plus it towed the 21' aluminum enclosed trailer with the SCCA spec Formula 2000 open wheel track car that was raced for two years... earned Driver's Championship), driven friend's Porsche, NSX, GT-R, etc.

For what i wanted for the current vehicle is my own personal preferences. My next might (one again) be a truck, maybe a F150. Basically, the M4 DID NOT meet up to what my (today's) personal preference wanted for the chosen current vehicle. Will make no apologies, as this is a preference. Am very happy to have the tweaked 435i, as she feels right, drives the way i current want in a daily driver and fun car. Smooth, very fast (when needed) and (knocking on wood) works great without ever throwing a CEL, etc. If i wanted a 'faster' car, or one that has some type of 'pedigree' i would have gotten one.

Again, very much appreciate your suggestion of the M4, yet tried it and came away under-impressed.

[insanecoder]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Truly do appreciate your help. Test drove the M4 and found the steering 'feel' to be a complete and unmitigated disaster. It also felt like the car was trying too hard to FEEL fast instead of actually being fast. Have owned Ferrari, Bentley (never again!), F250 SuperDuty Off-Road (for true off-road fun plus it towed the 21' aluminum enclosed trailer with the SCCA spec Formula 2000 open wheel track car that was raced for two years... earned Driver's Championship), driven friend's Porsche, NSX, GT-R, etc.

For what i wanted for the current vehicle is my own personal preferences. My next might (one again) be a truck, maybe a F150. Basically, the M4 DID NOT meet up to what my (today's) personal preference wanted for the chosen current vehicle. Will make no apologies, as this is a preference. Am very happy to have the tweaked 435i, as she feels right, drives the way i current want in a daily driver and fun car. Smooth, very fast (when needed) and (knocking on wood) works great without ever throwing a CEL, etc. If i wanted a 'faster' car, or one that has some type of 'pedigree' i would have gotten one.

Again, very much appreciate your suggestion of the M4, yet tried it and came away under-impressed.

0-60 in under 4 is too slow for ya but the 435 is ok?
hmmm
I think your testdrive was muzzled.. the M4 is quite the beast on track