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      06-08-2017, 07:51 AM   #155
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I have seen it done before I'll look for the post but I know it works , just takes away the blue hue
Great because I can't find such a post
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      07-09-2017, 02:26 PM   #156
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Hi Guys

Just a quick question i have a f30 335d on a 16 plate with business nav and 6.5 screen and thinking to upgrade to 8.8 screen. I am looking at part number 9387453 will this be ok?

in terms of coding i have just downloaded esys 3.281 with psdzdata lite 3.61.4. I have read somewhere that i need a token or a patch to run this is that true?

Any help would be appreciated.
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      07-09-2017, 04:56 PM   #157
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In some of the earlier posts folks said this didn't work with the integrated navigation retrofit (the one available as an accessory from BMW, not retrofitting the entire head unit) since that box is only set up for the smaller screen and couldn't be coded separately. Did anyone try that with the split screen view on the 8.8" screen? I'm wondering if the smaller screen real estate with the split screen would handle that navigation retrofit better.
I'm also interested
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      07-09-2017, 05:06 PM   #158
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Hi Guys

Just a quick question i have a f30 335d on a 16 plate with business nav and 6.5 screen and thinking to upgrade to 8.8 screen. I am looking at part number 9387453 will this be ok?

in terms of coding i have just downloaded esys 3.281 with psdzdata lite 3.61.4. I have read somewhere that i need a token or a patch to run this is that true?

Any help would be appreciated.
An F30 made in 2016 should have HU_ENTRYNAV, so the LCI screen you're referring to should work okay.

Regarding eSys, check your PM.
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      07-11-2017, 06:11 AM   #159
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Hi guys,

I have just tried to install the larger 8.8” screen in my F30 LCI and not been successful, please see below detail of the specs and issue. I would really appreciate anyone’s support in trying to understand why this won’t work for me.

F30 LCI M-Sport (Build date 10/15)

HU-ENTRYNAV on 6.5” (606) screen to be replaced with an 8.8” pre LCI screen L7 CID High (Part No. 9292248), purchased on eBay from Moldova

I managed to remove the trim and vents no problem and then proceeded to remove the two T20 screws that hold the 6.5” screen in place, they very tight but they were removed with no damage. I proceed to lift the screen out the slots the where the lugs sit through. The next bit was tricky to remove the screen connector cable as this was made difficult because there was not much slack in the cable and I didn’t want to risk pulling the connection to the HU. Also, the connection to the back of the screen is very tight which required pulling the connector as well as at the same time holding in the release tab, anyhow I manged to free the screen.

I then proceeded to install the 8.8 screen by first fitting the cable to the connector on the middle back part of the screen, which is in a different position to the 6.5” screen. Anyway, the connector was pushed in tight and the screen lowered into the slots by pushing back slightly. At this point, all is good in terms of the fitting.

I then turned on the ignition, the screen remained blank (no life) but assumed that was because it will need coding. So I fired up my laptop and loaded E-sys and proceeded to code the following:

However at first when I tried to right click on HU_ENTRYNAV cafd file to Read, it wouldn’t expand out instead gave an error. After a couple of tries I manged to get it to expand out to show all the functions? At this point I proceeded to make the following changes:

HU_NBT > 3000 HMI > DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 8.8_1280x480
HU_NBT > 3001 EXBOX > DISPLAY_VARIANTE = breites_display

I found the entries under HU-ENTRYNAV (as I don’t have HU_NBT) and made the changes as shown above. I then saved the changes and FDL Coded to car for which I got the following error message.

HU_ENTRYNAV [63]
cdDeploy FinishedWithError
cafd_00000ded-003_015_007 Finished


So I tried again, same outcome. I then closed the connection and the 8.8” screen was still blank (no life). Restarted the car a couple of times, held down the volume button but still not working. I then decided to refit the original 6.5” screen and connected the cable, then screen kept coming on and then off. I continued to screw it back into place and replace the trim. At this point the screen was blank. So I decided to check the lines of code I had changed had in fact been changed despite the errors. So I hooked my laptop back up and check the EU-ENTRYNAV caid and yes the values had changed from my previous coding. I proceeded to change them back to the 6.5” settings and the screen came to life.

I’m now stuck with my 6.5” screen which is working as it should and left with a 8.8” which won’t work.

The question is what have I done wrong?

The things I thought off:

1) Loose connection to the head unit caused by pulling on the lead to free up enough slack to remove from the screen. Considering the 6.5” screen is now working I doubt this to be case plus if its anything like the connection to the screen I would take some removing, can anyone confirm this point?
2) Have made/missed a coding point?
3) Is the screen is not compatible with my car due to a voltage change?
4) Or the screen is not working?

Please can anyone help try to sort this mess out and advise anything to help either get the larger screen fitted or confirm it’s the screen that is not working?

Any support will be very much appreciated.

Thanks, in advance.

Kev
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      07-11-2017, 07:02 AM   #160
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The 8.8" screen should be okay, the problem is the unsuccessful coding due to errors (there shouldn't be any errors durng coding). Contact shawnsheridan, he can help you, since he is an expert regarding coding.

EDIT: The default resolution (from factory) should be "10.25_1280x480" even if you have a smaller screen. All you need to code is "breites_display".
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      07-11-2017, 08:51 AM   #161
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The 8.8" screen should be okay, the problem is the unsuccessful coding due to errors (there shouldn't be any errors durng coding). Contact shawnsheridan, he can help you, since he is an expert regarding coding.

EDIT: The default resolution (from factory) should be "10.25_1280x480" even if you have a smaller screen. All you need to code is "breites_display".
Man thanks for the support and direction, would I be best to DM Shawn or just wait for him to see this post?
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      07-11-2017, 09:00 AM   #162
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      07-11-2017, 01:32 PM   #163
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Im interested in something like this. I have basic entery 6.6 screen on an F32 - 2014 model. Can I change to the bigger 8.8 screen? (no Nav)
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      07-11-2017, 02:47 PM   #164
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The 8.8" screen should be okay, the problem is the unsuccessful coding due to errors (there shouldn't be any errors durng coding). Contact shawnsheridan, he can help you, since he is an expert regarding coding.

EDIT: The default resolution (from factory) should be "10.25_1280x480" even if you have a smaller screen. All you need to code is "breites_display".
Regarding the screen resolution, i personally think the quality/colours look better when Selecting the 6.5" option as opposed to the 10.24". Might just be me but anyway I managed to code the 6.5" to 10.25" without any errors.

I will try to fit the screen again and just code the second part.

Thanks Kev.
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Im interested in something like this. I have basic entery 6.6 screen on an F32 - 2014 model. Can I change to the bigger 8.8 screen? (no Nav)
Yes, you can. However, you must have HU_ENTRYNAV head unit which is on all cars made later than 07/2014 (don't know for sure).

If you have eSys and an ENET cable, you can check for yourself in order to be 100% sure before you buy a larger screen off eBay.
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      07-11-2017, 02:49 PM   #166
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Im interested in something like this. I have basic entery 6.6 screen on an F32 - 2014 model. Can I change to the bigger 8.8 screen? (no Nav)
Depends on what HU you have?

HU_Entrynav
HU_Entry
HU_CIC
HU-NBT
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      07-12-2017, 09:50 AM   #167
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Depends on what HU you have?

HU_Entrynav
HU_Entry
HU_CIC
HU-NBT
I guess for the noob here, I have no idea what the above means. Im guessing its in reference to the HUB that the screen is sitting in and each one of those are different in some aspect. How would I know?
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      07-12-2017, 09:54 AM   #168
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Yes, it's the head unit - the box beneath the radio to which the screen (and other peripherals, such as GPS antenna) are attached.

You can guess which type you have based on your MFG date and/or car configuration. If you want to be sure, you need to attach a notebook to your car and read the data via a special cable ($20 on eBay).

HU_ENTRYNAV (which is required for the 8.8" screen to work) was introduced in 7/14, so if your car was made afterwards, you should have it.
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Ok, understood

Yep, so looks like I'm SOL, Car was manufactured in 11/13.

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The 8.8" screen should be okay, the problem is the unsuccessful coding due to errors (there shouldn't be any errors durng coding). Contact shawnsheridan, he can help you, since he is an expert regarding coding.

EDIT: The default resolution (from factory) should be "10.25_1280x480" even if you have a smaller screen. All you need to code is "breites_display".
Just a quick update to say the 8.8" screen is now working, thanks to both yourself and Shawn.

I was able to resolve the issue by coding first the screen res to 10.25 as per MarkoSK advised and then did another code for the Screen_Variante (split screen) after connecting the new screen which coded correctly.

So for me the issue was doing both changes at the same time and then FDL coding to the car.

Thanks again for the help on here.
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      07-12-2017, 03:44 PM   #171
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Just a quick update to say the 8.8" screen is now working, thanks to both yourself and Shawn.

I was able to resolve the issue by coding first the screen res to 10.25 as per MarkoSK advised and then did another code for the Screen_Variante (split screen) after connecting the new screen which coded correctly.

So for me the issue was doing both changes at the same time and then FDL coding to the car.

Thanks again for the help on here.
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Hi Guys just a quick update i can confirm the new lci 8.8 screen does work on my 16 plate f30 only had to code the breites_display and screen fired straight up.

I managed to install and code the screen with the help of MarkoSK and shawnsheridan these guys are just amazing.

Thanks again guys


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Hi Guys just a quick update i can confirm the new lci 8.8 screen does work on my 16 plate f30 only had to code the breites_display and screen fired up straight up.

I managed to install and code the screen with the help of MarkoSK and shawnsheridan these guys are just amazing.

Thanks again guys


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Looks great mate, which screen did you install?

9292248 -> pre-LCI screen
9387453 -> LCI screen

I went with the pre-LCI screen due to cost but still looks loads better than stock.
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Hi Guys just a quick update i can confirm the new lci 8.8 screen does work on my 16 plate f30 only had to code the breites_display and screen fired up straight up.

I managed to install and code the screen with the help of MarkoSK and shawnsheridan these guys are just amazing.

Thanks again guys
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Looks great mate, which screen did you install?

9292248 -> pre-LCI screen
9387453 -> LCI screen

I went with the pre-LCI screen due to cost but still looks loads better than stock.
Hi Mate

I went for the LCI screen 9387453 off ebay paid £300 inc p&p seller was great took me 5 mins just to unwrap the thing (drivefasterltd) screen came out of an M4.

And i agree it does look far better then the 6.6 screen
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See end results, really impressed with the split screen, thanks again for the support on here.
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