08-27-2020, 09:59 AM | #749 |
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LOL.....3 years later and settlement that still has us potentially paying 60% out of pocket for a defect......
I didn't expect much from this so I'm not disappointed. My timing chain is fine. I check it often with an endoscope. If it dies, it dies. This is a bad situation all the way around. Good luck to all! |
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08-27-2020, 10:26 AM | #750 |
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The way I read it...
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It seems there are a number of different conditions. First, this applies to cars generally from 2012-2015 depending on model. From doc. 72-3 pages 15 and on: ------------------------------------ FOR THOSE THAT ALREADY HAVE PAID FOR REPAIR Based on repair dates vs. service dates: III.A.1 - If you had the engine or parts replaced before the 7-year/70K extension then you get reimbursement 100% dealer / $3k chain / $7.5k motor III.A.2. - If the failure took place after the 7-year/70k extension and before 8-year/100k, then there's a table with sliding scale from 75%-40% of reimbursement which starts at 75% reimbursed with caps. FOR PROSPECTIVE (FUTURE) REPAIR III.B.1. - If you have failure before the 7-year/70K then you get reimbursement 100% at dealer III.B.2. - Repairs after 7-year/70k and before 8-year/100k mark, reimbursement will apply under a similar sliding scale from 75%-40% of reimbursement which starts at 75% (reimbursed with no caps?). III.B.3. - For one year after effective date regardless of age but under 100k, reimbursement at the dealer will apply under a similar sliding scale from 75%-40% of reimbursement which starts at 75% (reimbursed with no caps?). ------------------------------------ So in summary: 1.If you've already paid for the repair, I'm sure most of the cases have been for under 70k cars. This is wonderful for those horror stories of 40k cars that had to pay thousands for new engines. 2. If you repaired into later years/mileage then comments above about 100k 'lifetime' apply because of the sliding scale. 3. The prospective program expands the same coverage to future repair as (1) and (2), except for the additional one year extension regardless of age but capped at 100k miles which may cover certain 2013 models beyond their natural 8-year limit because his coverage starts on the effective date which is yet to be established. I ask that others that are combing through the details please double-check my summary. |
08-27-2020, 10:55 AM | #751 |
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One piece of certainty is the 100,000 mile limit no matter anything else.
My car failed at 101,000 miles... it will be interesting to see if the BMW rep will assist in this or not when the time comes. The car has been 'disabled' since April 2019. |
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08-27-2020, 01:34 PM | #752 |
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FCP euro prices fluctuate a lot from what I've seen, I bought a ZF trans kit in 2018 for like $190, a few months ago it was close to $300, now its back to $214
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This is what the lawyers were pushing for based on what I read.
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08-27-2020, 02:17 PM | #754 |
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so if i'm reading this correctly, since my 2015 is just over 80k miles, I will only be covered for 55% of the repair and I'll have to pony up the remaining 45% IF the dealership does diagnose correctly a timing chain issue?
thats disappointing as fk. |
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Yup....
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Or, you can also pay a relatively high price for a preventive and safety retro fit (replace the TC and poor plastic rails) to address the problem created by BMW. Seems a good way to burn money. Don't you agree, this is TOO MUCH SHIT for a problem that is undeniably a poor design, a lack of common sense, and the greedy race for cost reductions at BMW? If you are happy with this shit... I'm definitely not. If you are happy with the shit of resale value of your car dropping even more because your car is subject to TC problem, and the risk to replace the WHOLE ENGINE, I'm definitely not... I would not buy a BMW with N20 engine never more. |
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Unrelated to the above, I haven't read through the whole document but wondering if it says anything regarding preventative change? |
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08-27-2020, 08:51 PM | #761 |
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08-27-2020, 09:55 PM | #762 |
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I wondered if I'd regret my BM3 tune because it would void any possible timing chain warranty extension.
Glad I went ahead and did it. My car would only be covered till 3/2021 anyway. Might just pay to have it done at my indy if I'm gonna keep it much longer than that. My quote with valve covers included was $2400
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PACER entries for 8/27/2020:
Full docket text for document 73: BRIEF In Support of Preliminary Approval re [72] Motion by All Plaintiffs. (Attachments: # (1) Letter to Judge Waldor with Corrected Brief)(GRAIFMAN, GARY) Modified on 8/27/2020 (dam, ). Full docket text: Set Deadlines as to [72] Plaintiffs' MOTION for Settlement and Preliminary Approval. Motion set for 9/21/2020 before Magistrate Judge Cathy L. Waldor. Unless otherwise directed by the Court, this motion will be decided on the papers and no appearances are required. Note that this is an automatically generated message from the Clerk's Office and does not supersede any previous or subsequent orders from the Court. (dam, ) |
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08-28-2020, 05:32 AM | #764 |
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Purchased the kit off FCP. Will get it in in a month or two.
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TOTALLY Agree!! and don't forget that the turbos on these things start going out right after 50k miles, which is another $3000-5000 repair that is not covered under anything, (except if you are in CA you get the emissions warranty until 70k). No matter what, modern BMWs are disposable...
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Agreed - 80/8 is a pretty useless settlement. Would urge folks to contact the attorney handling this.
https://www.kgglaw.com/attorneys/gary-s-graifman-esq/ |
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And i would not buy any BMW, i only lease them |
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I, by the other side keep the car for longer and appreciate reliable product, but I don't like Toyota... so here I am. Yes, I decided to bet BMW would make good quality back in 2014 and failed. I'll either sell this car in one year or pay this retrofit to fix BMW bad decisions. But, you must admit a brand doesn't live only from lease, and they also have an image to preserve... |
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BMW caters to people like me with cheap subsidized leases, and then unloads off lease cars to people looking to buy a badge This is their current economic model. If I was to buy a car it would be Toyota/Lexus or a Honda |
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