[im_an_alien]

America has gone soft...
Plenty of other shiny reflective bits clearly visible from the side...

[Elvisfan]

Originally Posted by im_an_alien

America has gone soft...
Plenty of other shiny reflective bits clearly visible from the side...

Yes,that’s why BMW offers parking assist.

[orbE46]

How well do the eBay ones fit for you guys, if any of you are running them?

[Nickef30]

Originally Posted by im_an_alien

America has gone soft...
Plenty of other shiny reflective bits clearly visible from the side...

Yup... if someone can't see a car at night or even during the day they should not be driving IMO

[johnung]

Originally Posted by im_an_alien

America has gone soft...
Plenty of other shiny reflective bits clearly visible from the side...

I believe it's a US federal regulation that car manufacturers have side reflectors. Probably similar to various UK MOT regulations.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Elvisfan

Yes,that's why BMW offers parking assist.

What does the optional parking assistant have to with some unsightly reflector, that's mandated in only one country in the entire world? Only the US government, in 1968 had the foresight to see their effectiveness, yet everyone else said F-it?

If you believe they have some mythical powers that would somehow save you in a collision because someone said so a long time ago, then more power to you but they make very little difference in visibility and like I said, it's not the end of the world if you conceal them.

I'm all for safety, so If you can find some factual evidence, other than the government say it's so, that state they make a difference, then I'm all ears but until then, some silly reflectors are merely holdovers from vehicle's of the past.

[davidr3]

Originally Posted by T5viggen

Kept mine reflective, just not orange.

Are these the smoked ones?

[Gen13 F36]

just don't see anything wrong with the amber reflector... in my opinion it look good especially when the amber corner light is on (yeah I know someone posted they coded that off too).

[Palantir]

Originally Posted by orbE46

How well do the eBay ones fit for you guys, if any of you are running them?

These seem to fit perfect:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IG...b_b_asin_title

[Elvisfan]

Originally Posted by Poochie

What does the optional parking assistant have to with some unsightly reflector, that's mandated in only one country in the entire world? Only the US government, in 1968 had the foresight to see their effectiveness, yet everyone else said F-it?

If you believe they have some mythical powers that would somehow save you in a collision because someone said so a long time ago, then more power to you but they make very little difference in visibility and like I said, it's not the end of the world if you conceal them.

I'm all for safety, so If you can find some factual evidence, other than the government say it's so, that state they make a difference, then I'm all ears but until then, some silly reflectors are merely holdovers from vehicle's of the past.

Post #46. Poster says America has gone soft. The picture shown shows the parking assistance sensor. We can’t even park our cars anymore.
I’m all for being seen. Taping over reflectors can’t help. Besides it being illegal.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Elvisfan

Post #46. Poster says America has gone soft. The picture shown shows the parking assistance sensor. We can't even park our cars anymore.

Oh...

I wouldn't say gone soft, maybe some just appreciate supplement assistant features of modern technology, so incidents like these can be prevented:

https://www.kidsandcars.org/2018/05/...-in-every-car/

Progress is never a bad thing but we can also be logical in that decision making.

[Palantir]

Originally Posted by Elvisfan

Post #46. Poster says America has gone soft. The picture shown shows the parking assistance sensor. We can’t even park our cars anymore.

Sensors might be "ok")
A lady that was parallel parking next to my brand new car repeatedly hit my bumper and the bumper of the car on the other side.
I asked if she is parking "by ear" She stated: "its ok, I am just hitting the bumper! Thats why it's called a bumper, right?!?"...the police officer that showed up right when you need him and the insurance carriers disagreed with that statement...
I guess in the 60-70s, such "bumps " would not have been a big deal but the plastic painted bumpers changed all of that.
No wonder these and the likes became so popular in urban settings:
https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-Bumper-.../dp/B000WLHGJA

[Pauloxxi]

Originally Posted by Palantir

Sensors might be "ok")
A lady that was parallel parking next to my brand new car repeatedly hit my bumper and the bumper of the car on the other side.
I asked if she is parking "by ear" She stated: "I am just hitting the bumper! Thats why it's called a bumper, right?!?"...the police officer that showed up right when you need him and the insurance carriers disagreed with that statement...

What a crap! I can't believe that. Maybe, when she drive during crowded rush our "bumper to bumper" she would really go crashing the car in front of her, just to make bumper to bumper

[Palantir]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Oh...

I wouldn't say gone soft, maybe some just appreciate supplement assistant features of modern technology, so incidents like these can be prevented:

https://www.kidsandcars.org/2018/05/...-in-every-car/

Progress is never a bad thing but we can also be logical in that decision making.

Exact reason why retrofitting backup camera was my first mod! In the past you were able to see through the back window waaaaaay better. Greenhouse in general was much larger. Roof strength regulations changed that so the cameras became a necessity.

[T5viggen]

Originally Posted by davidr3

Are these the smoked ones?

They are. Actually liked the looked more than just the color coded inserts

[davidr3]

Originally Posted by T5viggen

They are. Actually liked the looked more than just the color coded inserts

Looks good, i'm probably going to throw this on my F30, granted it's mineral gray though.

[im_an_alien]

Originally Posted by Elvisfan

Post #46. Poster says America has gone soft. The picture shown shows the parking assistance sensor. We can’t even park our cars anymore.
I’m all for being seen. Taping over reflectors can’t help. Besides it being illegal.

That is not a sensor, it's a camera bro... and it's not for parking, it's to see around corners when pulling out of a blind corner for example..

[Elvisfan]

Originally Posted by im_an_alien

That is not a sensor, it's a camera bro... and it's not for parking, it's to see around corners when pulling out of a blind corner for example..

My mistake. Sorry.

[im_an_alien]

Originally Posted by Elvisfan

My mistake. Sorry.

I had the car several months before I knew too..

[jmg]

Are you suddenly going to get sideswiped every night you don't have reflectors? No, but it's is saferER with them on. I don't think they look that bad at least not bad enough to put any time, effort or thought into removing them. That's just me. I happen to like how they look actually.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by jmg

I don't think they look that bad at least not bad enough to put any time, effort or thought into removing them.

Me neither, it's not that serious..

However, if a shop and already going to paint my bumper and they agree to throw in painting the front reflector for free, then why not..

[Elvisfan]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Me neither, it's not that serious..

However, if a shop and already going to paint my bumper and they agree to throw in painting the front reflector for free, then why not..

Because it’s illegal,it’s unsafe. I’m surprised the body shop would do it.