[Pentland]

Following from the various recent heating threads, there are some big discounts on Tado products in the upcoming Amazon Prime event.
TRVs are half price for example.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/page...=_PD_email_cus

*Im not affiliated with Tado or Amazon.


Just noticed there are some Hive deals too!

[Cootie]

Cracking deals - thought what I got via Costco was good, but could have saved myself about £150 all in if I’d waited...

For anyone tempted I’ve been really impressed so far. Definitely recommended.

[Cootie]

For best results you definitely want to be going for the TRVs in each room. Ability to zone the house and have different timings and temperatures for each is making a real difference even before we get into winter proper.

[SkyJawa]

Originally Posted by Cootie

For best results you definitely want to be going for the TRVs in each room. Ability to zone the house and have different timings and temperatures for each is making a real difference even before we get into winter proper.

We've had Nest for years so in that ecosystem with the camera's etc, but really wish they did TRV's like Tado.

[bytejunkie]

Originally Posted by Cootie

For best results you definitely want to be going for the TRVs in each room. Ability to zone the house and have different timings and temperatures for each is making a real difference even before we get into winter proper.

had it a year now and its performed flawlessly. just had to order a batch of rechargable AAs though.

i zoned the open plan living area and every other room separately, i run two heating schedules for each of the above every day (warms in the morning, warms in the evening) then all day at the weekend. i run my home office room 8-8 5 days a week and i keep it cold at the weekend to try and keep me out of there.

brilliant system and for a while it used to text me telling me it'd saved 30% off my bill.

[gr4z]

Almost tempted to buy it to replace Hive. Hive is pretty dumb and just provides remote control via an app and a schedule on a web site. There is no intelligence behind it. To buy a rad valve is £54 each!

[Watsey]

I've had a full tado system in the house for the past 2-3 years - it's very good.

Every rad has an eTRV, so very room can have it's own heating schedule and temperature. For some reason it's mandatory to have a wireless room thermostat, so we have that in the lounge but never need to use it - everything is controlled via the App. Rads can be grouped if needs be.

We asked tado to disable the eTRV 'manual call for heat' functionality so that the children can't mess with the system. No-one's complaining :-)

Geofencing and remote control also work well - turn off when Mrs W and I are both out of the house, but also provides full control to turn on the heating and hot water so that everything is ready when we get home from holidays (remember those ?).

The only downside is the cost of AA alkaline batteries - around £30 per year for our 11 radiators. Unfortunately rechargeable batteries just don't have sufficient capacity and are not compatible.

I've been doing some battery testing and so far Varta lifespan far exceeds Duracell.

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by Watsey

For some reason it's mandatory to have a wireless room thermostat, so we have that in the lounge but never need to use it - everything is controlled via the app.

You need the room stat to set up some of the system settings. The engineering menus are all set up there. I use the room stat to control my bathroom towel rads that don’t have TRVs so I can dry towels in summer.

[Bryans69]

Can anyone offer any insite into how the Tado compares with EvoHome, as they seem pretty similar in concept and functionality?

[Cootie]

Originally Posted by Bryans69

Can anyone offer any insite into how the Tado compares with EvoHome, as they seem pretty similar in concept and functionality?

As I understand it Tado has a few more bells and whistles, with open window detection, automatic switching of the heating when not in the house and adjustment of the heating schedule based on prevailing weather. It also uses AI to determine how quickly your house heats up and adjusts the temperature based on the hours you want a certain temperature to persist, rather than switching the heating on at a pre-designated time. That being said for all the bells and whistles you do have to pay a £25 annual subscription. Guess that’s fair enough to fund ongoing software development and maintenance.

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by Cootie

As I understand it Tado has a few more bells and whistles, with open window detection, automatic switching of the heating when not in the house and adjustment of the heating schedule based on prevailing weather. It also uses AI to determine how quickly your house heats up and adjusts the temperature based on the hours you want a certain temperature to persist, rather than switching the heating on at a pre-designated time. That being said for all the bells and whistles you do have to pay a £25 annual subscription. Guess that’s fair enough to fund ongoing software development and maintenance.

I think the Honeywell system also the open window and geofencing whistles.
However, regardless of how good Honeywell may or may not be, the aesthetics of those TRVs would put me off from the get go.

[EvilDrPorkChop]

I'm a 'Honeywell Connected Specialist' so my answers are biased towards the Evohome system.

Following on from the other thread, Honeywell will do all the features that Tado does (Open Window detection etc.). The main advantage of the Evohome system is that it's not solely based on an internet connection and you don't need a subscription. I believe with the Tado system if you don't have a good connection it makes the system unusable to turn on/off and make changes.

Not sure on the Tado system but if you've got a compatible boiler the Evohome system could use Opentherm to control the flow temperature on the system. Also there's a lot of load scaling and adaptive algorithm that Honeywell have brought across from their other products, in all it works very well and is very efficient.

What I will say with the Honeywell system is that Honeywell have been in the heating controls market since they began. They're very good at what they do and it works very well.

I'm part of the on going Beta testing development team, and they're doing a big update soon. There's going to be Warm Weather Shut Down, Cold Weather boost, and HW priority (For those who's kids use all the HW!)

The Radiator controllers...yeah Tados are quite nice. Honeywell do a cheaper, HR91 with no display that's less ugly. Personally the HR92s don't bother me, but Tados are more sleek.

So in all, I'm a Honeywell fan. But as I say I've had very little experience with Tado, i'm sure more people on here have. But as an installer, I will only fit the EvoHome system.

[Pentland]

Good info EvilDrPorkChop thank you.

Just for info, with Tado you can manually override the system if WiFi is lost. You just can’t update schedules until the app reconnects. For me that’s not been a problem as once the schedule is set up, it’s rarely changed. You can manually switch on water, turn the TRV’s temperate up down or off etc.

Regarding the subscription, currently £2 a month. This simply automates the geofencing and open window actions. As standard, you just get a message that a window is open or no one is home and you can choose to act on it via the app.

I’ve only found one negative with Tado so far which is for the geo fencing, you need every resident to have the app on their phone. That also means they have full control of the heating. Not a problem for my household but I can imagine it could be a mare for others e.g. if you are sub letting.

[1 AKY]

Originally Posted by Pentland

Following from the various recent heating threads, there are some big discounts on Tado products in the upcoming Amazon Prime event.
TRVs are half price for example.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/page...=_PD_email_cus

*Im not affiliated with Tado or Amazon.


Just noticed there are some Hive deals too!

I know it's a bit late now, but were there any deals on Hive TRVs?

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by 1 AKY

I know it's a bit late now, but were there any deals on Hive TRVs?

I have a bunch I don't use any more - I couldn't get on with that type of TRV so went back to manual ones on the radiators.

I still have them but the boxes got binned - PM me for more details.

[Watsey]

For those that are considering tado, and who have (or know someone who has) a Costco membership, this is a very good deal :

https://www.costco.co.uk/Appliances/...&utm_term=Tado

[Pentland]

Amazon have another offer on Tado kit in their Black Friday deals

[chris-c]

The tado stuff looks great but when you work out how much it'd cost to do a slightly larger house I worked out I'd need to spend just shy of £700! (got 19 rads that'd need it so it's not for me!)

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by chris-c

The tado stuff looks great but when you work out how much it'd cost to do a slightly larger house I worked out I'd need to spend just shy of £700! (got 19 rads that'd need it so it's not for me!)

Currently £32 for each TRV which is pretty cheap. You don’t need to do every rad e.g bathrooms but I guess that’s the rub of having a large house

They do claim you’ll save the outlay....

[Cootie]

Originally Posted by chris-c

The tado stuff looks great but when you work out how much it'd cost to do a slightly larger house I worked out I'd need to spend just shy of £700! (got 19 rads that'd need it so it's not for me!)

Think they reckon they’ll save you 25-30% on your heating bills if you go for a fully zoned system. Then just a case of working out in the context of your house and heating bills what the payback period is.

To be honest the savings are only half the reason I got the system. The other half is that I get much better distribution and control of my heating, with a much more even heat throughout the house. That alone is probably worth the expenditure for me.

[ioannisG]

Originally Posted by Cootie

Think they reckon they’ll save you 25-30% on your heating bills if you go for a fully zoned system. Then just a case of working out in the context of your house and heating bills what the payback period is.

To be honest the savings are only half the reason I got the system. The other half is that I get much better distribution and control of my heating, with a much more even heat throughout the house. That alone is probably worth the expenditure for me.

Absolutely this. Having all rooms being an equal temperature, even the cold north facing ones, and only heat up the rooms you need is the major benefit for me.

I’ve had Tado in my last property with all TRVs and it was perfect. Since I’ve moved to renting recently it plain sucks that the landlord had not fitted trvs so I couldn’t use mine any longer and now have a couple of rooms that overheat and a couple that are plain cold. Sucks!

Also Tado uses opentherm of your boiler supports it to regulate how hot the water gets.

Finally if you want not to pay the subscription just buy one thermostat off eBay (the v3 model, not the v3+) and pay the one off fee of something like £20 to upgrade it. Then you can use V3+ devices off Amazon without any subscription fees. Also if you know someone who had a v3 model & have upgraded for the one off fee they can log in to your v3 account and yours gets automatically upgraded without paying anything. Did that for my fiancé’s system and now we’ve got 2x non subscription v3+ systems!

[xenon]

I fitted a Tado about three years ago, one of the first issues. I was skeptical about their claims of 30% reduction in heating costs but I easily achieved that and it's paid for itself several times over. Mind you, Mrs X has no concept of how a thermostat works and so probably making that aspect tamper-proof is what did it....