[lux.sh]

Those of you talking a lot of crap, you must realize you don't speak for the general population on earth.
Just because it ain't your cup of tea, doesn't mean there is no market. Obviously some ideas tend to fail, but there is no long term success without short term failure.

That rendering above looks beautiful. Keep it up BMW. From M3 el-camino to M1, you guys are trying hard to satisfy many different "types" customers. Thumbs up.

[LACSTER]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Just noticed that's the F10 bumper

[Leaf4]

I would love for BMW to release this, it looks sporty yet boasts a tonne of cargo space and utility, which would be excellent for a professional that works in sales such as real estate etc lugging around signs etc.

I'm not a fan of the 5GT so much, but it is classy, the X6 I've found from working in a dealership is quite popular with the real estate agents, as I have multiple clients with 2 they love them so much.

[XieJin]

someone please put this car out of its misery, i'm still hoping its a april 1st joke gone too far...

[mshab356]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

also, the 5 GT is only a terrible seller in the USA, in Europe, where SUVs are rare, a step closer to American is sometimes desired.

I've been studying abroad in Europe for the past two and a half months now, and I can definitely confirm this. 5GT's are everywhere in Europe!

[docjay]

does anyone know or have an idea what was the car running on the other side of the 3er on photo#7?

[hks786]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Renderer Andy Valencia has submitted a Rendering of the BMW 3er Gran Turismo which showcases how the car will look.

Scott, how much does this resemble the front end of the new 3?

[WAY]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Then there is the 3er Gran Coupe which would also join , basically it is a four door version of the new 3er Coupe.
Just as Gran Turismo opens up the door for the 5er and now the 3er , Gran Coupe will form the 6er and the 3er.

3er GT and 3er Gran Coupe are models that can be spun off the new modular matrix and are in the prime position for increased profits.

With the BMW 1er and 3er in their standard guise before additional expansion projected profit rises are about 10-20% higher than on the current E87/E90. And with all the models combined for expansion that will be a very high profit margin but very worthwhile considering BMW's large investment in developing this matrix.

So what you are saying is that in the 3 series range, there will be:
- sedan
- touring
- GT
- coupe
- gran coupe

Wow! Given my habit of changing at least one or two BMWs a year, this could be fun for me to try out the whole range! Just make sure you make as many M3s in the range as possible!

[mkoesel]

Don't forget the convertible. Also, there has been mention of the BMW "FAST" concept and even an MPV though those two may actually be the same vehicle.

Also, depending on how you look at it, you could include the X3, X4 and Z4 since they either already use the F3x chassis (X3) or will in the future (X4, Z4).

Finally, remember to schedule a trip to China to try out the LWB F3x sedan.

Originally Posted by WAY

So what you are saying is that in the 3 series range, there will be:
- sedan
- touring
- GT
- coupe
- gran coupe

[Jason]

Originally Posted by docjay

does anyone know or have an idea what was the car running on the other side of the 3er on photo#7?

Looks like an F20 1-series hatchback.

[scott@bmwhn]

Looking forward to seeing this come to fruitation. Although the 5GT isnt my favorite looking vehicle, the interior dynamics I love...I think of it as a more versatile 7 series.

My only reservation with this model is that it will surely result in the demise of the 3'er wagon in the U.S. market.

I wonder...much like the 5Gt proceeded the F10, if this 3gt will proceed the F30...based on the current production schedule I assume it wont...but who knows.

[positiveions]

anyone else thinks it is going to flunk?

[N54B30A]

that thing is huge

[d3l0n]

just worried for this vehicle. I hope not as bad ast 5GT

[tyler9595]

note to self: don't view pics of f30 gt while eating

[stressdoc]

If I can fold the rear sears down & sleep in it, I guess I might take a look.

[Alpina_B3_Lux]

Originally Posted by 335audioman

This thing will be ugly...those proportions look odd...

Indeed. Another abomination after the 5 series GT and the X6. But it doesn't look (on the renders) AS ugly as the 5 series GT.

Alpina_B3_Lux

[docjay]

Originally Posted by Jason

Looks like an F20 1-series hatchback.

+1 thanks!

[Mark]

So it sounds like the 3 Series GT is going to come out first, before the F30 3-Series sedan, kind of the same way that the 5-Series GT came out months before the standard F10 5-Series Sedan. Cant say im thrilled about that

[diprip]

Originally Posted by Mark

So it sounds like the 3 Series GT is going to come out first, before the F30 3-Series sedan, kind of the same way that the 5-Series GT came out months before the standard F10 5-Series Sedan. Cant say im thrilled about that

Where did you hear this at? I thought the sedan was coming first in April for Europe and May for U.S followed by all other models later.

[Mark]

Originally Posted by diprip

Where did you hear this at? I thought the sedan was coming first in April for Europe and May for U.S followed by all other models later.

Its what scott has been suggesting, that the 3er launch will be similar to the 5er launch. If he turns out to be right, well, here is some history to guide us:

5er GT launched roughly 05/2009
5er Sedan launched roughly 11/09

So about a 6 month difference between the two

I get why BMW would want to launch the cars like this, the 3er GT is a new model, and its a nice way to get attention to the car: making it first out of the gate. But why should the sedan get the short end of the stick, its really going to make the wait for the F30 unbearably painful!

[southlight]

Who am I to disagree with Scott, but I doubt this is true. We know that the E90 will be out of production later this year, so the F30 debut is set for Spring 2012. A 6 month difference would mean the 3GT launches this Fall, and the disguise level of current prototypes alone suggests otherwise. We should have seen FEP cars of the 3GT by now if that was true, like it is the case for the F20 1-series hitting the (European) streets later this year.

All this makes me believe that the F30 will debut first.


Best regards,
south