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      01-28-2022, 10:09 AM   #67
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For me, the situation is similar. The power cords are there. You have to buy a different SZL, or try to re-plug the wires and you may be able to code it on this SZL. Unfortunately, it did not work for me.
Interesting. Did you manage to complete the retrofit eventually? How did it work out?
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      01-29-2022, 10:34 AM   #68
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No, no driver assistance options on the car (no LDW, no Blind spot. just rain sensor, no Kafas camera) - in fact I have a really useful coin storage compartment in the dash where the driver assistance switches normally live!

So those two chunky wires I indicated are the wires which would/could power the steering heater?

I wonder if next step is to pop the airbag off and look inside the wheel?
Yes, those red/black and brown wires are the power and ground. Since your steering column switch cluster has those and the pins in the connector location for the Heated Steering Wheel switch, I would say you could try doing the retrofit without replacing it first to see if it works, worst case scenario is that you would have to replace it. But maybe you'll get lucky and not have to. At least you don't have to run the extra wiring all the way to the FEM!
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      01-30-2022, 02:15 AM   #69
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For me, the situation is similar. The power cords are there. You have to buy a different SZL, or try to re-plug the wires and you may be able to code it on this SZL. Unfortunately, it did not work for me.

Interesting. Did you manage to complete the retrofit eventually? How did it work out?
Yes, I am currently running SZL from F30 but I do not have a rear wiper and FLA I am looking for the correct SZL
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      02-05-2022, 06:10 AM   #70
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Cool! Thank you !👍🏻
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Weird.

My szl has an empty (no pins) in the hole where you would plug in the button wire. But I do have a rain sensor and the car is facelifted.
I can't even make out which szl to buy... It's just stupid getting one with automatic high beams if my car doesn't have that option.

For example 9351143 szl can have all options but no rain sensor, or no options and only rain senzor.

Im stumped. Also good luck finding one. But if there are they're 300$
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      02-12-2022, 05:26 AM   #72
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Weird.

My szl has an empty (no pins) in the hole where you would plug in the button wire. But I do have a rain sensor and the car is facelifted.
I can't even make out which szl to buy... It's just stupid getting one with automatic high beams if my car doesn't have that option.

For example 9351143 szl can have all options but no rain sensor, or no options and only rain senzor.

Im stumped. Also good luck finding one. But if there are they're 300$
What options you have in your car ?
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      02-15-2022, 10:18 AM   #73
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If anyone's interested, I have the SZL and sport line heated steering wheel (with paddleshifter, vibrating motor, etc) for sale. PM me!
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      06-14-2022, 01:22 AM   #74
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thank you roxxor, your post helped me a lot during the installation.
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      08-15-2022, 08:02 PM   #75
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Guys, I'm about to attempt this retrofit in a couple weeks. Just a bit confused on a few things after reading through other people's replies to this thread.

Can someone please confirm I'm understanding Roxxor's instructions (below) correctly:

Parts required if vehicle does not have Driving Assistant options = Steering Column Switch Cluster?

I'm glad I found this thread but just wish I found it before I decided to do the retrofit. Based on a few replies, it seems like this can be a tricky mod.

I already have the lower trim panel w/button and the new steering wheel is on its way. Just need to confirm if I will need this additional part. Should I wait to get the current, non-heated, steering wheel off before I order the Steering Column Switch Cluster?

EDIT: This is the part I'm considering if it ends up being required



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...Depending on what options your car already has, you may not need to replace the Steering Column Switch Cluster.

... to determine if you will need to replace the Steering Column Switch Cluster, if your car has any of the Driving Assistant options, such as Lane Change Warning or Lane Departure Warning, then you should not need to replace it. The only cars that will require replacing it are cars that do not have any of those options, then there is a good chance you will need to replace it.
- Steering Column Switch Cluster – There are 7 different versions of this part available based on the other options your car has. List of part numbers can be found here
- Trim Panel, Steering Column, Bottom – 61319219551
- Bushing/Socket Contact – Qty. 3 – 61130005197
- Double Leaf Spring Contact – Qty. 1 – 61130007437

For the below parts, if you purchase the Steering Wheel used, you can check to see if it already includes these parts before you buy them separately, as it is usually cheaper to find one that includes them

- Steering Wheel Electronics Module – M-Sport - 61317848641
- Connecting Line, Steering Wheel – There are several different versions of this part available based on the other options your car has. List of part numbers can be found here

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      08-21-2022, 10:08 AM   #76
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What options you have in your car ?

Did you ever figure this out?
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I am a bit confused. I went to realoem to try to figure out which steering column switch cluster I need. I see there are 6 different part numbers listed there, but they all have the same descriptions, for vehicles with steering wheel heater, and rain sensor, and high beam assistant, and lane departure warning, and lane change warning, and driving assistant. My car only has the rain sensor currently, but according to this list there isnt a version without all of the options. Does this indicate that the steering column switch in my car is already a version that supports the heated steering wheel and thus makes it easier to retrofit a heated wheel and switch into my car? I have the m-sport wheel already.

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I am a bit confused. I went to realoem to try to figure out which steering column switch cluster I need. I see there are 6 different part numbers listed there, but they all have the same descriptions, for vehicles with steering wheel heater, and rain sensor, and high beam assistant, and lane departure warning, and lane change warning, and driving assistant. My car only has the rain sensor currently, but according to this list there isnt a version without all of the options. Does this indicate that the steering column switch in my car is already a version that supports the heated steering wheel and thus makes it easier to retrofit a heated wheel and switch into my car? I have the m-sport wheel already.
I have the exact same question...
Per your instructions, I should change my steering wheel cluster if I dont have lane assist options. I only have the rain sensor.
So in the listing here, I only see PN that include Lane-Change... which one do I pick?
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      11-08-2022, 04:04 PM   #79
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Buy the one that has the options for your car plus the heated wheel.
1140, 1139, 1142, 1145 - no heated wheels. Dont buy that those.

1141 - heated wheel, no rain sensor, no HBA.
1143 - heated wheel, no HBA.
1144 - heated wheel, no rain sensor.
1146 - supports all the options so get that one if you don't want to worry about it.

Basically, look at the second column. Find the ones that have the options your car has in addition to S248a.

I got the 1143 SZL because my car doesn't have HBA and its was cheaper than 1146.

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      12-23-2022, 11:01 AM   #80
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Can i use an older cluster version?

Hi,
I have an F31 and as far as i understand I would need to use a 61319351151, which is really hard to find.
Do you think that the older 61319242285 work instead?
My current cluster is 61319351148.
Also mine is right hand drive but parts should be the same right?
Thanks
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      08-08-2023, 01:57 PM   #81
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Hello, I've f30 lci 2018 with kafas2 and hba. Do I need extra wires or not? See attached picture...

Update: yes it will work.
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      08-20-2023, 06:54 PM   #82
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Having a hard time figuring out the part number for my SZL, I don’t have lane keep assist or any of those, just high beam assist and auto wipers, I do have the power wires ran to the SZL and I have pins on the plug for the heated wheel button, does that mean mine would be comparable? 2012 335i SportLine with paddle shifters
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      08-21-2023, 11:11 AM   #83
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751 is the same like 1145 so no heating
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      10-21-2023, 07:14 PM   #84
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I have a stock base 328i. I am in the process of doing a 6-pin basic to 5-pin high mirror upgrade and at the same time lane change warning. I do not need steering wheel heating, but had to get a steering wheel ECU module that does vibrator motor. Apparently, my car does not currently have a steering wheel ECU module, as there are no power (Pin 9) and ground pin (Pin 11) on the A83/1B connector (entire left row is missing). Only the right row is there which is filled up by the six airbag wires.

I am not about the buy a new clock-spring (steering column switch cluster) so will just run the power and (FEM) ground wire directly to the new steering wheel ECU module (Pin 3 and 6), bypassing the connector.

Did anyone run into this issue? I would have thought that BMW has at least the pins there. But seems like I would need an entire different part number clock-spring to have those pins there. Or there are a lot more things going on inside the clock-spring's circuit board?

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Actual switch have:





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Also, do not have the "hidden" driver assist switch cluster harness behind the headlight switch. So I need to run the wires from the FEM. What a bone-basic model I got
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I have a stock base 328i. I am in the process of doing a 6-pin basic to 5-pin high mirror upgrade and at the same time lane change warning. I do not need steering wheel heating, but had to get a steering wheel ECU module that does vibrator motor. Apparently, my car does not currently have a steering wheel ECU module, as there are no power (Pin 9) and ground pin (Pin 11) on the A83/1B connector (entire left row is missing). Only the right row is there which is filled up by the six airbag wires.

I am not about the buy a new clock-spring (steering column switch cluster) so will just run the power and (FEM) ground wire directly to the new steering wheel ECU module (Pin 3 and 6), bypassing the connector.

Did anyone run into this issue? I would have thought that BMW has at least the pins there. But seems like I would need an entire different part number clock-spring to have those pins there. Or there are a lot more things going on inside the clock-spring's circuit board?

Sample picture from the internet:






Actual switch have:





Did you manage to get it working powering directly to the steeringwheel module without switching szl? i have an f31 with HBA and rainsensor, so there is only 1 option for an szl 61319351154 (the full option one) but this unicorn isnt widely available. Anyone tryed bypassing the szl connector?
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Did you manage to get it working powering directly to the steeringwheel module without switching szl? i have an f31 with HBA and rainsensor, so there is only 1 option for an szl 61319351154 (the full option one) but this unicorn isnt widely available. Anyone tryed bypassing the szl connector?
I think it could be done, by running the two wires (power and GND/FEM) directly to the steering wheel control module pins.

But I ended up buying a clock spring with "1143" part number for $45 shipped on Ebay. Has all options except High Beam assist. It's still being delivered to me. Once it's here, I will see what path can be done for the wire. That is if I can get to it without taking apart so the ribbon cable will not get damaged.

If you need the full option clock spring 61319351154, Ebay has a brand new "old stock" for $110...very hard to find this, and not for this low price and not brand new! (just double check the part number and confirm): https://www.ebay.com/itm/362905511384

But I saw some on the Ebay.UK website where these items are generally cheaper.
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thx for the reply but are RHD and LHD szl's interchangeable? i didnt think so.
and i saw the one on ebay, but unfortunatly the seller wont ship outside of the us. (im located in europe, belgium.)

i was also thinking of buying one without the highbeamassist as they are much cheaper, i have been looking up if there the pcb's inside of the szl's are different from eachoter and i dont think so as the szl only works as a communication between modules. so i will try to swap the stalk of my current szl and solder it to the new one without the HBA or rainsensor depends on wich i would buy. but just to be 100perfect sure that bypassing the szl isnt possible
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