[Slick_FThirty]

Hello,

I would like to purchase the BMW 403m rims, and was looking for aftermarket copies of it. However, I haven’t been able to find one and was wondering if anyone knows of a brand/model that does make it?

Thanks

[F36GC_NYC]

Originally Posted by TechiGamer

Hello,

I would like to purchase the BMW 403m rims, and was looking for aftermarket copies of it. However, I haven’t been able to find one and was wondering if anyone knows of a brand/model that does make it?

Thanks

there are tons, check the classified section..

[tardboi]

I have not seen replica 403m 's. Lots of used OEM ones, however.

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by tardboi

I have not seen replica 403m 's. Lots of used OEM ones, however.

So why buy a lesser quality replica that will break on the first pot hole instead of quality used OEM?

[tardboi]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

So why buy a lesser quality replica that will break on the first pot hole instead of quality used OEM?

I'm not OP, just tried to direct them on where to find cheaper than new 403s.

If you can find used OEM wheels I'd do that, but it's rare for someone to be local

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by tardboi

I'm not OP, just tried to direct them on where to find cheaper than new 403s.

If you can find used OEM wheels I'd do that, but it's rare for someone to be local

Also rare for replicas to stay as straight and undamaged as OEM.

[Woppy]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

Also rare for replicas to stay as straight and undamaged as OEM.

Sorry, have to disagree with your comments. I’ve had a mixture of OEM and reps over my 22 years of driving 14+ cars and I’ve never had issues with any of the reps. Also, the UK roads are awful, my old 330ci M sport cracked two OEM wheels on potholes, hit many (tried not too) with reps (even with the 763 reps on mine now) not an issue!

The price of some OEM wheels are ridiculous, so I don’t blame anyone to go down the Rep route.

Paint can sometimes be an issue though, I will say.

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by Woppy

Sorry, have to disagree with your comments. I’ve had a mixture of OEM and reps over my 22 years of driving 14+ cars and I’ve never had issues with any of the reps. Also, the UK roads are awful, my old 330ci M sport cracked two OEM wheels on potholes, hit many (tried not too) with reps (even with the 763 reps on mine now) not an issue!

The price of some OEM wheels are ridiculous, so I don’t blame anyone to go down the Rep route.

Paint can sometimes be an issue though, I will say.

Didn't say new. Said used OEM wheels in classifieds.

And there are various threads on replica BMW Wheels damaged by looking at them wrong.

[zamboni]

Here is the link from Mercedes test lab for OEM vs replica wheels, you'll be the judge.

[tardboi]

Originally Posted by zamboni

Here is the link from Mercedes test lab for OEM vs replica wheels, you'll be the judge.

Not exactly an unbiased source though.

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by tardboi

Not exactly an unbiased source though.

That doesn't make it false.

And no need to take a "biased" opinion.

Just look at the test video yourself and form your own "unbiased" opinion.

[Woppy]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

Didn't say new. Said used OEM wheels in classifieds.

And there are various threads on replica BMW Wheels damaged by looking at them wrong.

Apologies, I didn’t realise you said used OEM. I do see and understand your points made and for course OEM is going to be better but honestly, I’ve not had issues with reps... maybe I’ve just lucky 👍

[tardboi]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

That doesn't make it false.

And no need to take a "biased" opinion.

Just look at the test video yourself and form your own "unbiased" opinion.

Bias means this could have been one out of hundreds of tests that they found a way to make reps look bad. You cannot have an unbiased opinion with a biased source as your only one.

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by tardboi

Bias means this could have been one out of hundreds of tests that they found a way to make reps look bad. You cannot have an unbiased opinion with a biased source as your only one.

Sure, they filmed 100 times to find the one time the replicas shattered.

:LOL:

I realize you want to see conspiracies in everything , but Occam's Razor prevails. Most times the simplest explanation is correct.

And it's pretty obvious.

There is a reason why forged wheels cost about 3x what cast wheels costs.

And despite what you might think, replica wheels are not tested at all. They are a simple cheap imitation.

[tardboi]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

Sure, they filmed 100 times to find the one time the replicas shattered.

:LOL:

I realize you want to see conspiracies in everything , but Occam's Razor prevails. Most times the simplest explanation is correct.

And it's pretty obvious.

There is a reason why forged wheels cost about 3x what cast wheels costs.

You realize they could choose different wheels, different speeds, different curb heights, different curb angles? That curb is pretty huge to be hitting at 30mph. That's not a typical pothole, thats almost running into a parking lot curb.

And, 3x(more like 4x) for the 0.1% chance I run into a pothole like that in my life? I could run into that pothole 8 times before I break even with OEM? Obviously, frustrating along the way- but that would never happen.

TBH you've more convinced me more towards reps being a good idea than a bad one. So thank you.

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by tardboi

You realize they could choose different wheels, different speeds, different curb heights, different curb angles? That curb is pretty huge to be hitting at 30mph. That's not a typical pothole, thats almost running into a parking lot curb.

And, 3x(more like 4x) for the 0.1% chance I run into a pothole like that in my life? I could run into that pothole 8 times before I break even with OEM? Obviously, frustrating along the way- but that would never happen.

TBH you've more convinced me more towards reps being a good idea than a bad one. So thank you.

Please show me where 403 replica wheels are certified to meet or exceed TÜV Standards and are ZWARP tested.

Original BMW Light Alloy Wheels are not approved for sale until they pass the service life test on the ZWARP and exceed TÜV Standards.

Some people like to live a clueless life.

Just make sure your insurance is up to date so you'll be covered when you loose control.

If that's what you trust on the road, more power to you.

[tardboi]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

Some people like to live a clueless life.

Just make sure your insurance is up to date so you'll be covered when you loose control.

If that's what you trust on the road, more power to you.

If they were as bad as you claim, they would be illegal. Has anyone ever reported losing control due to a replica wheel failing?

As for your edit, again - there are no 403 reps I could find. As for passing two very german sounding tests - can you find american car manufacturers wheels passing these tests?

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by tardboi

If they were as bad as you claim, they would be illegal.

Incorrect. There are no USA Standards for wheels. Only tire ratings.

Originally Posted by tardboi

Has anyone ever reported losing control due to a replica wheel failing?

There are threads and pics.

Originally Posted by tardboi

As for your edit, again - there are no 403 reps I could find. As for passing two very german sounding tests - can you find american car manufacturers wheels passing these tests?

Most American Cars Manufacturers test to these standards and others as they know what will happen to their sales if the put inferior wheels on cars.

[tardboi]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

Incorrect.

There is no USA Standards for wheels.

That doesnt mean there wouldnt be if replicas were causing road accidents.

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by tardboi

That doesnt mean there wouldnt be if replicas were causing road accidents.

There are many things you can buy in America that can easily kill you. Even more so in other Countries.

That's what freedom brings you.

Your posts are really getting ridiculous.

[tardboi]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

There are threads and pics.



Most American Cars Manufacturers test to these standards and others as they know what will happen to their sales if the put inferior wheels on cars.

I searched, found no results of an accident due to replica wheels failing, as you state will happen to anyone who uses them.

As for #2, source? It looks to be nothing more than a european equivalent of JWL. Replicas may very well pass them, too, considering they pass JWL

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by tardboi

I searched, found no results of an accident due to replica wheels failing, as you state will happen to anyone who uses them.

As for #2, source? It looks to be nothing more than a european equivalent of JWL. Replicas may very well pass them, too, considering they pass JWL

1) Please repost where I stated it WILL happen to ANYONE who uses them (replicas). I'm waiting.

Wow...less than 13 minutes and you examined every thread in replicas and found nothing. Then declared it's not there.

:LOL:

2) Please search about Automotive regulations of Car Companies vs After Market Parts before continuing your insanity. TÜV is a standard for aftermarket parts, btw, if you bothered to search. Again, show me where replicas meet those standards.

3) Please post where any BMW replicas have been tested and certified to pass any Standards (If you can even find the name of the "counterfeiter", err, replicas).

Hard to outlaw counterfeit parts anyway you look at it.

Some people have no regard for their safety.