[DaveA]

Just been told that if I want my new M135i as I ordered it, then it will not be available in June, as initially scheduled, and they cannot tell me when it might be…

The global semiconductor shortage means BMW are now dropping certain options that I ordered on the car, for the time being, so I now have to decide to either compromise and not have those items (for a lower price), or wait until a later date (could be next year, nobody knows) and have the car I wanted…

I do not believe that I cannot hold the order open for a later build, with all the items, and the choice now is that I either take the car as they are proposing to supply it, or I cancel and place a new order now at some (unspecified) later date..

Items being dropped from mine, if I take it, are:

Harmon Kardon sound,
Wireless charging
Comfort Access…

Obviously they will adjust the price downwards, accordingly…

To be honest, I can probably live without wifi charging and the comfort access, but I am not sure about dropping the sound upgrade… The only BMW I had in the past with the standard sound was not really what I was after… and I would feel I was accepting a compromise that was more than the value of the option…

Fun for a Thursday…

[Abzynthe]

That's a shame If it's a keeper, then the no HK is easily rectified with aftermarket, but if it's just for a couple of years, I'd cancel and get something else, or wait.

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by DaveA

Just been told that if I want my new M135i as I ordered it, then it will not be available in June, as initially scheduled, and they cannot tell me when it might be…

The global semiconductor shortage means BMW are now dropping certain options that I ordered on the car, for the time being, so I now have to decide to either compromise and not have those items (for a lower price), or wait until a later date (could be next year, nobody knows) and have the car I wanted…

I do not believe that I cannot hold the order open for a later build, with all the items, and the choice now is that I either take the car as they are proposing to supply it, or I cancel and place a new order now at some (unspecified) later date..

Items being dropped from mine, if I take it, are:

Harmon Kardon sound,
Wireless charging
Comfort Access…

Obviously they will adjust the price downwards, accordingly…

To be honest, I can probably live without wifi charging and the comfort access, but I am not sure about dropping the sound upgrade… The only BMW I had in the past with the standard sound was not really what I was after… and I would feel I was accepting a compromise that was more than the value of the option…

Fun for a Thursday…

you have a year left on your Golf dont you, so not a NEED to change?

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by Abzynthe

That's a shame If it's a keeper, then the no HK is easily rectified with aftermarket, but if it's just for a couple of years, I'd cancel and get something else, or wait.

Problems with aftermarket are a) the hassle of getting it done and b) the insurance impact of the modification (plus, also, on PCP,. getting consent to do that)...

That's my conundrum... having made some compromises with the Golf that I am kicking myself now about, I am very wary of making compromises on the new car... and if I got into it on a 47 month PCP and decided what I am not happy with the standard sound then I am left kicking myself again and back into a -ve equity pot for something that I am not getting on with...

You see, they are not going to come in and rescue me from that at a later date, are they...

So, yeah, maybe cancelling the order and looking again in 6 months time is the way to go... still up in the air right now... am going to try and test a car with the standard sound system...

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by isleaiw1

you have a year left on your Golf dont you, so not a NEED to change?

Exactly, I am fortunate in that my existing PCP has quite a bit to run and so I am not up against the wall in that sense... and things like insurance etc are not really much different either way...

I think the conundrum is when will things revert and will they revert at similar prices... if we could be somewhat certain that things would be more back to normal in, say, 3 or 4 months time, and deals were going to be somewhat similar, then I would simply back out and look to do the deal again, then...

But what if prices go up to balance these issues, and deals are reduced, and APR's go up, then I might miss out entirely...

Its a conundrum, but not really a problem, right... we are not talking about he end of the world here, after all...

[KCH1984]

If you saw my other thread, I'm in a similar position.

HK dropped from my X5 build (but just made cut off for wireless charging) which I've replaced with B&W (obviously paying more ). When I asked when HK might return there was no certainty on it other than "MY22 at the earliest" which didn't inspire much confidence and was the reason I decided to suck it up and upgrade as opposed to deferring.

[SkyJawa]

Is there no Advanced option on the 1 series anymore? Just bogo or HK?

I had Advanced in my M140i and it was perfectly good enough, though at the time HK in the 1er was criticised for not being worth the money.

Can you go see a M135 with none HK sound and see if its acceptable?

No comfort access is a benefit! Wireless charging - just get a cheapo pad from Amazon and plug into the USB.

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by KCH1984

If you saw my other thread, I'm in a similar position.

HK dropped from my X5 build (but just made cut off for wireless charging) which I've replaced with B&W (obviously paying more ). When I asked when HK might return there was no certainty on it other than "MY22 at the earliest" which didn't inspire much confidence and was the reason I decided to suck it up and upgrade as opposed to deferring.

Yeah, that's the real conundrum, knowing when things might recover... Was just reading more about the overall situation in MacWorld and they are saying the general consensus is that things are set to continue at least through 2021 and maybe longer... so do you take what you can get now as you might be unable to get even that in 3 months time..?

I am popping into the dealer ASAP to try cars with the standard stereo then we can talk... once I know what I am up against... the wifi charging and comfort access are not problems for me, to be honest.. nice to haves not must haves...

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

Is there no Advanced option on the 1 series anymore? Just bogo or HK?

I had Advanced in my M140i and it was perfectly good enough, though at the time HK in the 1er was criticised for not being worth the money.

Can you go see a M135 with none HK sound and see if its acceptable?

No intermediate option now, just standard or HK... So, yes, off to try a standard system ASAP...

Agree that in the previous 1-ers the HK was not really worth the money if you had the advanced option...

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

No comfort access is a benefit! Wireless charging - just get a cheapo pad from Amazon and plug into the USB.

Totally agree there, both were just "nice to have" options rather than must haves... the waggle your foot under the boot thing would have been good when arms full, but hardly a must have...

What I do not know is whether or not losing the wireless charging also loses the wifi in the car... details are short at the mo....

[Wills2]

The issue will last from a consumers view point the rest of the year (we distribute for the likes of Samsung/Microsoft/Google/Amazon and all the other tech vendors who are similarly affected), I'd wait and get the car spec you want and keep the Golf for now.

[Nibbles]

Stick with what you have and look again next year. No point moving from one car you feel you have compromised on spec to another one you have had to do the same.

[stefan4]

Similar position but I think I'm just going to compromise on a stock car rather than run the gauntlet on a factory order.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by Nibbles

Stick with what you have and look again next year. No point moving from one car you feel you have compromised on spec to another one you have had to do the same.

Valid comment, see it much the same. Compromising once and 'feeling it' can be a mistake. The second time... not so easy to excuse.

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Valid comment, see it much the same. Compromising once and 'feeling it' can be a mistake. The second time... not so easy to excuse.

Yeah, I'd best not be moaning in here any more if I take the car and then have buyers remorse after, had I...

Well, going to try out a car with standard speakers and see what's what... I can only make decisions based on what is in front of me...

Downside with hanging onto the Golf is another year of compromise there (and there is no sight of any imminent resolution of the issues I am having there)...

.. and risk of waiting is that deals might get worse, interest rates might increase, and then I cannot even get what I wanted anyway...

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by Nibbles

Stick with what you have and look again next year. No point moving from one car you feel you have compromised on spec to another one you have had to do the same.

Except, the prospect of living with the issues I have now with the Golf for another year and a half is why I went for the new car in the first place... Plus, getting out of the Golf now is looking financially astute with the WBAC increases right now... I could sell it and rent a car for a month or so and still be quids in....

Also, no telling what deals will be next year... They have to make their money back on the impacts of this, after all...

Just not really a straightforward decision, really...

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by Wills2

The issue will last from a consumers view point the rest of the year (we distribute for the likes of Samsung/Microsoft/Google/Amazon and all the other tech vendors who are similarly affected), I'd wait and get the car spec you want and keep the Golf for now.

If I do not like the sound of the standard system then, yes, I will do exactly that... and just put up with the Golf until I can change... would be a shame as the deal is pretty good and it looks like I can get out of the golf with some +ve equity at the moment... which would be good...

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by DaveA

If I do not like the sound of the standard system then, yes, I will do exactly that... and just put up with the Golf until I can change... would be a shame as the deal is pretty good and it looks like I can get out of the golf with some +ve equity at the moment... which would be good...

Maybe sell the Golf, buy a stop gap car for a year - you know, something a bit left field second hand that you might not want long term but could have a bit of fun with in the short term..?

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by isleaiw1

Maybe sell the Golf, buy a stop gap car for a year - you know, something a bit left field second hand that you might not want long term but could have a bit of fun with in the short term..?

Funny you should say that, but the WBAC bid on the Golf was way up yesterday, when I checked, and even if I was going to take the BMW without these few options, I was thinking of selling the Golf now and taking a small rental for a month... It now seems to have a significant positive equity as the bid has increased 10% over the last 4/5 weeks...

[225]

I don't know how the 1er compares but the hire 320d I ran for 6 weeks had the boggo stereo and yes it lacked the separate speakers but wasn't awful like cars of old!. HK is better but I'm not blown away by it.
All depends on how much you value the sound I guess.

[sahajesh]

For anyone who doesn't already have the background for the shortage and some interesting info:

[JustChris]

I'd take it without all 3 of them unless you have your heart set on and of them. The wireless charge is quite slow (but at least works vs the X3 pad).

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by 225

I don't know how the 1er compares but the hire 320d I ran for 6 weeks had the boggo stereo and yes it lacked the separate speakers but wasn't awful like cars of old!. HK is better but I'm not blown away by it.
All depends on how much you value the sound I guess.

Funny you say that but I have just been and had half an hour sat in a 116d with the standard stereo and the normal bluetooth and, well...

Connectivity-wise, it does everything I want it too do... Connects the phone with car play and reads lossless audio files from an SD card plugged in to a reader using the USB port in the arm rest... As 99% of the time I am in there on my own, I don't need the ability to have two phones in simultaneously, not will I miss the wireless charging pad, to be honest... for short journeys it's not a problem and for long journeys a short cable is hardly going to be a hardship...

Sound wise, I would concur with your Assesment... yes, only 4 speakers and no sub woofer, but it plays the radio and my files OK... It is certainly not dreadful... and, to be honest, I mostly just listen to the radio these days..

So this might be the end of paying for upgraded audio for me as I have decided that I can quite happily live with it...

.. and when we re-ran the numbers, I was rather more taken by the savings than the losses...