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      01-15-2022, 05:40 PM   #1365
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What are folks paying for install on this?
I paid around $600, which is on the expensive side. Got 2 quotes they were very similar so I picked my local dealer.
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      01-18-2022, 06:16 PM   #1366
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Not sure how much help this is, I installed mine in 2016.

Labor was $187.85
Programming was $149.95
Sound kit was $2399.60
Carbon Fiber tips were $203.20 each, total $406.40
Dealer charged $38.85 for shop supplies
State (MN) charged $204.14

Total was $3386.49
Out of curiosity, does your MPPSK drone quite a bit under 2K rpm. I got mine last year and have the 8 speed auto. Since Auto trans loves to move into highest gear asap, I am seldom driving under 2K rpm and the vibrations in the cabin are driving me crazy. I am in MN as well and got this done at BMW Minnetonka.
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Not sure how much help this is, I installed mine in 2016.

Labor was $187.85
Programming was $149.95
Sound kit was $2399.60
Carbon Fiber tips were $203.20 each, total $406.40
Dealer charged $38.85 for shop supplies
State (MN) charged $204.14

Total was $3386.49
Out of curiosity, does your MPPSK drone quite a bit under 2K rpm. I got mine last year and have the 8 speed auto. Since Auto trans loves to move into highest gear asap, I am seldom driving under 2K rpm and the vibrations in the cabin are driving me crazy. I am in MN as well and got this done at BMW Minnetonka.
It should not drone in comfort only in sport mode. Also make sure you disable the Active Sound Design ASD as it amplifies the drone.
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      01-19-2022, 08:42 PM   #1368
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Yes, comfort mode should be drone free. Sport mode has drone between 1600-2100 rpms a little, and it also causes a slight vibration on the driver seat during the same rpm band but very minor. Highway cruising in sport below 2000 rpm has the worse drone, but if you keep the rev higher it is just fine. And drone definitely decreased since I had the exhaust installed.

I agree that turning ASD off helps a lot and the car overall sounds a lot better.

If you have drone in comfort mode, you should have the exhaust checked; it is possible that it is having contact with something underneath the car.
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I honestly don't even think I have drone with my setup! To be honest..I havent even noticed.

Cant officially say the ASD has been turned off or not.
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I honestly don't even think I have drone with my setup! To be honest..I havent even noticed.

Cant officially say the ASD has been turned off or not.
Not even in sport?
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      01-20-2022, 08:23 AM   #1371
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Can't say that I have. When I go out later, I will check and see.
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      01-20-2022, 09:56 AM   #1372
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Can't say that I have. When I go out later, I will check and see.
Can you try half/full throttle on highest gear at around 1500 rpm in sport mode?

In the city drone is not really felt, but that low rpm range on the highway clearly has drone for me.

Tune doesn't turn the ASD off, so if you haven't done it, it is definitely on.
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Can't say that I have. When I go out later, I will check and see.
Can you try half/full throttle on highest gear at around 1500 rpm in sport mode?

In the city drone is not really felt, but that low rpm range on the highway clearly has drone for me.

Tune doesn't turn the ASD off, so if you haven't done it, it is definitely on.
+1 on the points above. No drone in comfort, heck except for WOT the valves are shut as I recall. No drone around town or the highway in comfort. With sport mode set, the drone is around 1700ish rpms for me. When I hit sport mode I shift the gear shift to the left and that solves all issues. It allows a bit higher revs and keeps it above 2000 rpms, so no drone. Plus I can play with my paddle shifters and who doesn't want to do that!!

I have not yet turned off ASD. I fellow forum member had a great write up and I wanted to do that when I had some time.
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I actually have turned off ASD and totally agree, it sounds much better without the boominess being added by ASD.

I have zero drone in comfort since flaps are closed. In fact in comfort its perfect.

In sport mode I have that crazy drone around the 1500 rpm as well all the way to 2000 rpm and its the worst on the highway with low load on the engine. I drive quite a bit on the highway and hence its driving me crazy. Putting transmission into sport mode certainly keeps the revs above 2000 rpm and that's what I do on the highway now as well when in sport mode. I would even be ok with some drone but its the vibrations that drive me mad as a BMW should not be buzzing and they also only happen in sport mode from 1500 rpm to 2000 rpm.

You guys make a good point, if something was touching then the vibrations would be there in comfort mode as well. I think I am going to play with getting a resonator installed to see if the drone goes away and suppresses the vibrations along with it.

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      01-23-2022, 05:01 PM   #1375
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I actually have turned off ASD and totally agree, it sounds much better without the boominess being added by ASD.

I have zero drone in comfort since flaps are closed. In fact in comfort its perfect.

In sport mode I have that crazy drone around the 1500 rpm as well all the way to 2000 rpm and its the worst on the highway with low load on the engine. I drive quite a bit on the highway and hence its driving me crazy. Putting transmission into sport mode certainly keeps the revs above 2000 rpm and that's what I do on the highway now as well when in sport mode. I would even be ok with some drone but its the vibrations that drive me mad as a BMW should not be buzzing and they also only happen in sport mode from 1500 rpm to 2000 rpm.

You guys make a good point, if something was touching then the vibrations would be there in comfort mode as well. I think I am going to play with getting a resonator installed to see if the drone goes away and suppresses the vibrations along with it.
Yes I wasn't expecting vibration (BMW right?). I was a bit surprised when I felt the vibration between 1500-2000 rpm range, but I got used to it. It also got a bit better over time (carbon buildup I guess? Or physiological ). If I didn't turn off the ASD though, I don't think I would be able to use sport mode at all (which is my default driving mode). It was not very pleasant to my ears.

I would definitely prefer to be vibration free, but I love the sound of the exhaust. Resonator would prob fix the drone and the vibration. But, wouldn't it also decrease/affect the air flow and potentially cause issues wit the tune though?
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      01-23-2022, 11:22 PM   #1376
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It will somewhat (minimally) disturb airflow but far from any meaningful amount. It will suppress sound in general and void any warranty on MPPSK and the related engine components, if still present.

(I wouldn't do it. We all got MPPSK for a reason and the sound is beautiful)
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(I wouldn't do it. We all got MPPSK for a reason and the sound is beautiful)
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Just wanted to say, that I drove my 340i for the first time in about a week and yes...the exhaust note is soooo freakin addicting!
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Anyone go from MPPSK tune to stage 2 bm3/mhd etc. ?

Wondering how much of a difference you felt?
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      01-25-2022, 02:00 PM   #1380
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From what I have read and heard...the car is a completely different beast..
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Just wanted to say, that I drove my 340i for the first time in about a week and yes...the exhaust note is soooo freakin addicting!
I keep finding excuses to drive the car since I got the exhaust 😂
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I do that too until the city decided to dump a shit ton of salt on the roads for zero snow. So right now, my 340i stays in the garage until the salt is gone.
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I do that too until the city decided to dump a shit ton of salt on the roads for zero snow. So right now, my 340i stays in the garage until the salt is gone.
Yeah salt is pretty bad here as well. Looking fwd to the next above freezing temperature to wash the car. It seems like in a week, fingers crossed.
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I believe it's supposed to be in the mid 50's next week and sunny here. I will more than likely get my car washed this weekend and enjoy it next week.
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I believe it's supposed to be in the mid 50's next week and sunny here. I will more than likely get my car washed this weekend and enjoy it next week.
Looking at the next 10 day's estimates, next Tuesday is the only time temperature will be above 32 degrees Fahrenheit. Then it is freezing again. I'll clean the salt knowing that it won't last long, unless suddenly Tuesday's temperature estimates drop.
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Hello anyone selling m performance exhaust?
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