[beerglass007]

Currently drive a pre-lci 330D M sport ( high spec )

Looks like Bristol city centre might ban diesel's end of 2021, but probably would have replaced the car before that time. I was looking at the new G20 330D when it comes down in the secondhand AUC. Currently the spec is £47K new or £570 per month for 4 year, so silly money and if Bristol ban diesel its not brilliant

I'm slightly bored of diesels, had 3 330D now. My commute is 35 miles each way down the M4 and my current F30 does 440 miles to a tank which is around 42MPG

I was toying with the idea of a 440,340 or 140. Why is the MPG better on the 340 compared to the 140, isn't it the same engine ?

Is there much difference between the 3 models in performance and fuel ?

On paper the 340 has pretty close figures to the 330D on motorway miles, is this really the case ?

The F30 340 is currently half the price of the G20 330D and feels like a bargain and feel the draw back to a petrol am I nuts is the real question if doing 17K a year

Thanks for reading 8-)

[JustChris]

Have you considered the 330e?

30ish Miles of 'free' electric power. Bristol friendly. The UK guys on G20 section are getting 60-100+ mpg depending upon how much charging they can do at home.

Most impressive 3 series out now. Also starts at same/slightly less the 320D currently. Probably the use case hinges on can you charge at home overnight on a driveway / garage. Demo cars are out there now at dealers.

There are EV tariffs out now @4p/KWH which is incredible. You 'fill up' the car for a commute for £1.20

[Wills2]

330e is a good shout, future proof against the next council target which will be larger petrols no doubt and you'll get great economy on your commute.

[Tengocity]

I've had my new 330e for 3 days and I can say hands down, without a doubt it's the biggest step forward I've ever had going from one generation of 3 series to another. I'm getting 60+mpg on my 140mile commute, and it's got a great turn of pace.

[225]

Originally Posted by beerglass007

Currently drive a pre-lci 330D M sport ( high spec )

Looks like Bristol city centre might ban diesel's end of 2021, but probably would have replaced the car before that time. I was looking at the new G20 330D when it comes down in the secondhand AUC. Currently the spec is £47K new or £570 per month for 4 year, so silly money and if Bristol ban diesel its not brilliant

I'm slightly bored of diesels, had 3 330D now. My commute is 35 miles each way down the M4 and my current F30 does 440 miles to a tank which is around 42MPG

I was toying with the idea of a 440,340 or 140. Why is the MPG better on the 340 compared to the 140, isn't it the same engine ?

Is there much difference between the 3 models in performance and fuel ?

On paper the 340 has pretty close figures to the 330D on motorway miles, is this really the case ?

The F30 340 is currently half the price of the G20 330D and feels like a bargain and feel the draw back to a petrol am I nuts is the real question if doing 17K a year

Thanks for reading 8-)

The x40i lump is very good on fuel especially on the motorway as it has a decent amount of torque well over 300 ft lbs across a wide rev range.

This however makes wanting to boot it more difficult not to do especially when it winds round to 6.5k rpm..

The m140 is the b58 is in a slightly higher state of tune over the 340 which may explain it.

[Jeff123]

Don’t get the F30, it’s an old design now and still very expensive.

[beerglass007]

Originally Posted by 225

The x40i lump is very good on fuel especially on the motorway as it has a decent amount of torque well over 300 ft lbs across a wide rev range.

This however makes wanting to boot it more difficult not to do especially when it winds round to 6.5k rpm..

The m140 is the b58 is in a slightly higher state of tune over the 340 which may explain it.

So the M140 is more highly tuned so to speak

[beerglass007]

Originally Posted by Jeff123

Don’t get the F30, it’s an old design now and still very expensive.

Really, there half the price of the G20 currently ?

[beerglass007]

When you speak about the 330e I assume you mean the new G20

I built the spec, 330e M sport plus with tech pack and its 1K cheaper than the 330D

https://configure.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/configid/k3x6a7k2/G20

So is going to be around the same price on PCP £570 a month which is spicy

So back to the M340I option or M140i which is half the price currently

[JustChris]

Fair enough, I probably mi interpreted New Car. Yup a used model is always gonna be cheaper now there is the new shape out.

I've seen 330e G20s for low £300 on a lease (not pcp) so with your 17k maybe about £400. EDIT here we go, less than £400 bit higher deposit. ETTO and good luck in the search.

[robbiep]

Originally Posted by JustChris

Fair enough, I probably mi interpreted New Car. Yup a used model is always gonna be cheaper now there is the new shape out.

I've seen 330e G20s for low £300 on a lease (not pcp) so with your 17k maybe about £400. EDIT here we go, less than £400 bit higher deposit. ETTO and good luck in the search.

You are aware that that works out as virtually £100 extra per month if you add in the deposit ?

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by robbiep

You are aware that that works out as virtually £100 extra per month if you add in the deposit ?

Yes I'm sure it is 😆 how remiss of me.

What are you recommending Rob?

[330XDave]

Wait another 6 months, there'll be loads of nearly new G20's for a lot less money than now.

[Mr Burt]

Agree with above.
330e has lots of quodos at the moment so prices are strong. Wait 6-12 months and there will be great deals out there.
330e feels like the sweet spot for the G20. No estate version though🤔

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by Mr Burt

Agree with above.
330e has lots of quodos at the moment so prices are strong. Wait 6-12 months and there will be great deals out there.
330e feels like the sweet spot for the G20. No estate version though🤔

Tourer is coming next summer I believe.

[ALBEE]

Just returned from Northern roadtrip! Managed 45.8 mpg!
Ok, it was motorway with cruise on at about 70-75, however, not bad return for a
440i M Performance coupe!!

[Busted]

Originally Posted by ALBEE

Just returned from Northern roadtrip! Managed 45.8 mpg!
Ok, it was motorway with cruise on at about 70-75, however, not bad return for a
440i M Performance coupe!!

Thats really good. Id scrape 50 out of my 335d. How many miles did you do ?

[JR1664]

Originally Posted by ALBEE

Just returned from Northern roadtrip! Managed 45.8 mpg!
Ok, it was motorway with cruise on at about 70-75, however, not bad return for a
440i M Performance coupe!!

Its amazing isn't it. I did a 110 mile trip, mainly motorway, averaging about 60/ 65 a few weeks back with a few stop starts for traffic and averaged 49.9. I then hit a 1 hour crawling queue on the M25 and it all went to rats of course but I was pretty impressed with that. Excellent stuff from the B58.

[beerglass007]

Originally Posted by JR1664

Its amazing isn't it. I did a 110 mile trip, mainly motorway, averaging about 60/ 65 a few weeks back with a few stop starts for traffic and averaged 49.9. I then hit a 1 hour crawling queue on the M25 and it all went to rats of course but I was pretty impressed with that. Excellent stuff from the B58.

What engine is in the 330e. ?

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by beerglass007

What engine is in the 330e. ?

The same 2 litre petrol as in the 320i.

[Alscoob]

Originally Posted by beerglass007

I'm slightly bored of diesels, had 3 330D now. My commute is 35 miles each way down the M4 and my current F30 does 440 miles to a tank which is around 42MPG

I was toying with the idea of a 440,340 or 140. Why is the MPG better on the 340 compared to the 140, isn't it the same engine ?



On paper the 340 has pretty close figures to the 330D on motorway miles, is this really the case ?

So for interest I moved from 330d F31 to 340i F31 - my 330d averaged exactly 42mpg as yours in the time I had it with a mix of rural / motorway / town.

The 340i is 10mpg less, which is what I expected with same journeys, but in saying that on a recent trip from rural Norfolk down M11 / M25 / A24 to West Sussex it did a remarkable 39mpg but I was being a little sedate as traffic was slow. I then combined that with some heavy right foot on some twisties with a mate and a journey back home, it achieved 36mpg overall.

So for me it's not comparable to a diesel on a run (didn't expect it to be) but still very good for what it is. Last weeks outing achieved 27mpg but that was driving the soxs off it

M140i has more performance than the 340i hence difference in mpg.

I find the drive of the petrol better and enjoy it more than the D, once you get over the initial infatuation of the exhaust sound and revving it more and revert back to 'normal' driving it's a peaceful place to be with the power if you want it, with pretty good MPG, so for me you're not bonkers

[JNW1]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Tourer is coming next summer I believe.

My understanding is also that a G21 330e will be with us next year and, as quite a number of my journeys are now relatively short runs, with my sensible head on I'm thinking one might be worth a look. However, courtesy of the battery pack I believe the luggage area is smaller than the petrols/diesels and I'd therefore need to see what the difference is - when I looked at a G21 in the dealers the boot didn't look to be an awful lot bigger than my F31 and if a G21 330e has a smaller boot than my current car that would rule it out for me.

And with my not so sensible head on, I'm thinking this might well be my last chance to buy a new petrol car in which case I'm still leaning more towards the G21 M340i! In any event I can see both the technology and choice of EV's improving significantly over the next few years and hence buying an M340i, keeping it for (say) 100k miles and then going for an EV after 6 or 7 years might actually make more sense (ok, maybe a bit of man maths-type logic at work there!).