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      01-06-2019, 08:00 PM   #1
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19x9.5 Square Setup?

I've read around and seen that it's possible to run 19x9.5 square. What tire size and wheel offset is recommended for flush fitment on msport suspension? Prefer not stretch tires too much.

Pictures would be great! Thanks in advance!
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do +35 with 255/35/19

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i run 19 9' square on 255 no issues, 9.5 are too wide for the fronts
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i run 19 9' square on 255 no issues, 9.5 are too wide for the fronts
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19 x 9.5 et35 square with 255/35/19.

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19 x 9.5 et35 square with 255/35/19.

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Looks nice! Got more close up pics of fitment? What are you lowered on?
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19 x 9.5 et35 square with 255/35/19.

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Looks nice! Got more close up pics of fitment? What are you lowered on?
H&R springs. I can try to post more pics in a few days.
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19 x 9.5 et35 square with 255/35/19.

[img]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4874/...aae18b24_b.jpg[/img]Untitled by slicerM, on Flickr
Looks nice! Got more close up pics of fitment? What are you lowered on?
H&R springs. I can try to post more pics in a few days.
Thanks! Just post here when you can

Edit: did you swap shocks or bump stops?
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19 x 9.5 et35 square with 255/35/19.

[img]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4874/...aae18b24_b.jpg[/img]Untitled by slicerM, on Flickr
Looks nice! Got more close up pics of fitment? What are you lowered on?
H&R springs. I can try to post more pics in a few days.
Thanks! Just post here when you can

Edit: did you swap shocks or bump stops?
Factory adaptive shocks. Shorter bump stops
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Factory adaptive shocks. Shorter bump stops
No bottoming out? Ive heard different stories about springs and I'm iffy about getting them if it bottoms out or could create problems
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No bottoming out? Ive heard different stories about springs and I'm iffy about getting them if it bottoms out or could create problems
I have experienced a bottoming out on the front on large dips in the road a couple of times. It's not something that happens regularly. I have been happy with the springs. The ride quality is good and the ride height is nearly perfect IMO. Low enough to look great but not so low that the car isn't usable. No regrets from me. I have had many cars with coil overs and currently have an M3 with a high level setup. It's a wagon, I saw no need to go crazy with the suspension.
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Looks nice! Got more close up pics of fitment? What are you lowered on?
Here's a pic that best illustrates wheel fitment - HR Springs, no camber plates, no spacers, no rubbing, 9.5 et35, 255.35.19 Michelin 4S

Untitled by slicerM, on Flickr
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Here's a pic that best illustrates wheel fitment - HR Springs, no camber plates, no spacers, no rubbing, 9.5 et35, 255.35.19 Michelin 4S

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Looks awesome I'll definitely be doing this setup. Does it sacrifice any turning radius with the 9.5s in front?
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Here's a pic that best illustrates wheel fitment - HR Springs, no camber plates, no spacers, no rubbing, 9.5 et35, 255.35.19 Michelin 4S

Untitled by slicerM, on Flickr
Looks awesome I'll definitely be doing this setup. Does it sacrifice any turning radius with the 9.5s in front?
Zero turning radius impact.
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Follow-up - I took some more detailed pics - including inner clearance pics.

BBS LM-R
19 x 9.5 et35

Michelin 4S
255/35/19

No camber plates, no spacers, H&R Lowering springs on factory adaptive suspension. No rubbing.


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How did u take that strut pic? Epic!

I've seen lower offset 10" width, with overspec negative camber up front before but for all practical purposes, it appears 19x9.5 +35 is max up front as evidenced by your pic

btw, the car looks sic!

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How did u take that strut pic? Epic!

I've seen lower offset 10" width, with overspec negative camber up front before but for all practical purposes, it appears 19x9.5 +35 is max up front as evidenced by your pic
Is the wheel not touching the strut? It looks very close and sketchy. Definitely the max up front
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Is the wheel not touching the strut? It looks very close and sketchy. Definitely the max up front
it appears the tire "hairs" are touching it

19x9 +(30-35) would be be better but less wheels are available in this size
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Is the wheel not touching the strut? It looks very close and sketchy. Definitely the max up front
it appears the tire "hairs" are touching it

19x9 +(30-35) would be be better but less wheels are available in this size
Just scared it'll hit the strut or run at full turn but slicer said he doesn't. Only bottoms out occasionally
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Just scared it'll hit the strut or run at full turn but slicer said he doesn't. Only bottoms out occasionally
yah, that's damn close... remember that same model cars are not exactly-exactly identical when built, especially when we're looking at 1mm clearance to the strut. you're car could have more clearance or could touch as well. something to consider

when he bottoms out, is it the rear tire shoulder contacting the fender? it appears the front gap is larger than the rear. the springs are giving him a slight reverse rake. a coilover drop would be better in this case albeit more costly.
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How did u take that strut pic? Epic!

I've seen lower offset 10" width, with overspec negative camber up front before but for all practical purposes, it appears 19x9.5 +35 is max up front as evidenced by your pic

btw, the car looks sic!
Thank You! I took the pic with the car safely on jack stands and the wheel turned.

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Is the wheel not touching the strut? It looks very close and sketchy. Definitely the max up front
It's not touching. I have tested this fit for a few hundred miles without any evidence of the tire contacting the strut. I have run fitment tighter than this in the past - even on track. Tires generally don't change shape on the top - inside even in extreme use. This thing is a street cruiser plus if the tire were to expand it would only make contact with the tire's rim protector portion on a smooth metal strut. It's not like there's a jagged piece of metal there. All that being said, this is obviously a tight fit with zero room for a larger tire and/or a more conservative offset. BBS make's LM's in 9.5 et32 which gives a little more inner clearance but I didn't like how it fit on the outside with my current camber settings (AKA minimal camber).

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it appears the tire "hairs" are touching it

19x9 +(30-35) would be be better but less wheels are available in this size
Yes, I have run 18 x 9 et29 513M with 255/40/18 tires without issues.

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Just scared it'll hit the strut or run at full turn but slicer said he doesn't. Only bottoms out occasionally
Yes, I have had zero issue with this setup except for what I describe below >>

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yah, that's damn close... remember that same model cars are not exactly-exactly identical when built, especially when we're looking at 1mm clearance to the strut. you're car could have more clearance or could touch as well. something to consider

when he bottoms out, is it the rear tire shoulder contacting the fender? it appears the front gap is larger than the rear. the springs are giving him a slight reverse rake. a coilover drop would be better in this case albeit more costly.
The "bottom-out" that I was referring to happened 2 times when the car was fully loaded, I hit a large dip in the road. It bottomed out on the front bump-stops. Zero rubbing or impact with anything other than the suspension bump stop. I'm running shorter BMW bump stops BTW.

Note that H&R springs that I have lower the front by 1.75" and the rear by 1.4". The car actually has about 1" of rake as measured by the distance between the rocker panel and the ground. Ride height is all good IMO. If you look at BMW factory ride heights there is typically more front fender gap than rear - mostly due to the fact that the front fenders have a taller arc. People correct this gap discrepancy with rake. I prefer a no-rake aesthetic.
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