01-19-2021, 01:09 PM | #6095 | |
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So, unlock your car, get inside and close the door. After a minute or so (assuming that everything that needs to be powered up has powered up, including the MMI) simply "simulate" that you are leaving the car and locking it, so turn off the ignition (without pressing the clutch, you want to power down your HU), open the door, shut the door, lock the car, and then stay inside and wait. Wait for about 2-3 minutes and you will see that all lights fade out, only the hazard light stays on I believe. The point is that the MMI goes off completely (you won't see the blue light flashing from inside of the box). Now plug in the USB stick with the downgrade file, press and hold "Back" on your iDrive controller and now start simulating that you are entering the car: unlock you car with the key, open the door, close the door, turn the ignition on this time pressing the clutch... all this time you are still holding the "Back" button and wait for a couple of seconds, the MMI clicks (relay) and from a black screen you should see an "Update" screen after 5-10 seconds, then release the "Back" button and let it update. This worked for me, the only way I was able to downgrade/upgrade the firmware, using this "special" force flash method. Good luck! |
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01-19-2021, 01:28 PM | #6096 |
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Has anyone encountered an issue with their battery discharding after installation? I installed the Andream B box with reverse camera about 6 months ago but this happens every few days.
Box works perfectly other than that I charged the battery fully just in case and disconnected the camera but this still happens, any help or how I can find out where the power is going is appreciated. https://www.dropbox.com/home/Car?pre...829_131942.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/home/Car?pre...215_173527.jpg |
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01-19-2021, 02:04 PM | #6097 |
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New updates on the 1st page:
- BR120.cpSDNRTY for RoadTop B-Version NBT (thx fdaw750) Code:
created: 2021-01-16 09:38:17 - B2_V1.2.0_t for unknown Andream model (thx boblok) Code:
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01-19-2021, 02:08 PM | #6098 | |
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I was able to find that string inside the code. Though I don't know what it's supposed to do (yet). Did you name it with that typo or without? |
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01-19-2021, 02:18 PM | #6099 |
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I updated my RoadTop NBT B unit to BR120 in one shot from BR115. Using 2gb fat32 old flash drive does the trick for me.
I see new Aec Auto Setup option in audio settings |
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01-19-2021, 04:03 PM | #6100 | |
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01-19-2021, 04:21 PM | #6101 | |
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01-19-2021, 05:36 PM | #6102 |
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SDK Version: 25.0.0.5.6.0.0.0
CUST Version: BR102 MCU Version: 20.6.2.0 HW Version: BMW_NBT Hello, what version can I update to with the roadtop system? Guessing I have the B-version so it can take BR120.cpSDNRTY? Should I do the MCU upgrade as well? Should I use the CFW instead? Thanks! Last edited by f304dr; 01-19-2021 at 05:53 PM.. Reason: C |
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01-19-2021, 06:31 PM | #6104 | |
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I know you mentioned in a post that ISPBOOOT.bin is a full upgrade whereas Gemini_pack.bin is an incremental upgrade. Perhaps that's why we're getting the 'Burn Failed' error. Please advise if this file is safe to apply to a RoadTop B unit. |
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01-19-2021, 06:40 PM | #6105 | |
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01-19-2021, 06:57 PM | #6106 | |
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I think MCU is to control the hardware/chip(s) within the MMI unit. Like the BIOS does on a computer. It's installed on the MMI unit's ROM and not on iDrive, however it may play a part (as an intermediary) on how the MMI unit access/uses the components on the car (e.g. Aux, Speaker, Wheel knob, buttons on the steering etc.). The other file what you install/upgrade with (to change CUST version BR115, BR120) can be compared to the Operating System (Windows 7, Windows 10). They are mostly related to the GUI and features we interact with within the MMI settings. New version often fixes issues identified on the previous version(s) and sometimes adds new features/functionality. Like BIOS (Which doesn't need updating that frequently) MCU is not always required to be updated. But if there is certain change on how the OS utilises/access the hardware, BIOS/MCU may need updating prior to installing a new OS (BR115, BR120 etc.) Like the BIOS, the MCU update file is really small in size (compared to the OS installer). BIOS and OS does separate job, OS is somewhat dependent on the BIOS, if the BIOS is corrupt or not compatible the OS can't function. They cannot be installed using the same file, at least in this scenario. MCU/BIOS is considered as Firmware as opposed to the Operating System (BR112) which is considered as Software. So not 2 different software for the MMI unit. @Firefly1337 or anyone correct me if anything/everything above is wrong.
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01-19-2021, 07:05 PM | #6107 | |
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I purchased from the Andream store on Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000192801429.html I'm happy with the it, not sure if it's the most recommended though. I have the Harmon Kardon sound system in my F55 - installation was not easy, but still OK. The head unit on mine is much bigger than the standard in another F56 I've helped to install. On that car the mmi fits behind the head unit. In mine, it is way too tight, I have it tucked in above the footwell on the drivers side. You could fit it somewhere better, behind glove box etc but I wanted easy access to it. The jumper switches on mine are quite loose, some had changed position during the install so it took a while to work out why the display wasn't working at all - the jumper switches had changed. Good luck! |
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Would you be able to post pics of your system info? Maybe something was over looked. My MCU was 20.6.2.0. I doubt you are slow with the swapping of the usb stick, how is your lay out for the usb plug? I tried multiple times (over a week) to finally have all the stars and planets align to be able to downgrade and then upgrade the unit. |
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Somewhat related....very cool to see SmartThings is now integrated with AA. Slightly laggy but useable:
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01-20-2021, 02:31 AM | #6111 | |
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Sorry, it was just a typo here, I did name it with a single 'c'. The second method to downgrade (whilst holding back/return button) does put the screen to full black (without it flickering) and USB drive seem to start having some activity that is shown by flashing light on the drive itself. But it only flashes 3 quick times in every 3-5 seconds (and has the exact same pattern every time) which looks as if it's trying to do something for sub-second and then fails and retries in 3-5 seconds. I was sat there for 30 minutes and couldn't see any progress at all. Maybe it needs more time, but it's freezing outside and plus I don't have that much time to spare just to sit there and wait. One thing I did notice is that no matter if I hit & hold 'back' button whilst powering on the MMI or anytime whilst already having MMI on - it would do the same thing, i.e. within 15 seconds of holding it would switch to the carplay box and the screen goes black. Which is when I see this funny activity on the USB drive. Losing hope. Would give up already if I knew it was bricked, but the fact I can still listen to spotify etc. suggests it's alive - just not showing the image properly. |
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01-20-2021, 02:36 AM | #6112 | |
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The file is named "GEMINI_PACK.BIN" Same name for the update and downgrade file, whilst the downgrade also includes another (empty) file with no extension named "recovery111#". |
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01-20-2021, 02:40 AM | #6113 |
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the line detect setting.? What setting is this ? I'm Still having issues with my oem rear camera from time to time.. Thanks
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But it's interesting nevertheless. The version from your ISPBOOOT.BIN is indeed the same (BR120.cpSDNRTY) as in the GEMINI_PACK.BIN. No idea why they would be sending you that file. I will need to take a closer look at the file later today, it might work on a RoadTop A-version too but I'm not sure yet. Quote:
I have seen your issue before with a user who had a CIC unit and flashed an NBT update. They have a different screen config. The update still worked but the screen had terrible flickering. Maybe your current running version has a wrong screen config included. |
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01-20-2021, 04:29 AM | #6115 | |
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What you described sounds like a faulty camera/cable/connection to me, although I'm no expert on aftermarket camera installation. Why don't you contact the seller directly and forget about customer support (which was useless in my case) and ask them to replace you the camera (if it's still under some kind of warranty) and then try installing the new camera. Don't know really how to help you further with this issue, sorry. |
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01-20-2021, 05:18 AM | #6116 | |
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At the moment my car is at BMW, I can send a picture later, but basically the usb is in the right side of the car (in the passenger foot area), and the idrive controller between the seat. My box version is: SDK Version: 25.0.0.5.6.0.0.0 CUST Version: B_V1.0.4 MCU Version: 20.4.2.14 HW Version: BMW_NBT |
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